The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kaboom]

If anyone's going to emerge victorious from that fracas, it'd probably be Cell. Out of all of them, he's got the most brains, skill, and the widest repertoire of techniques.

[Fox666]

Fat Boo vs Evil Boo vs Kid Boo vs Cell vs Freeza at equal power levels and no regeneration.

Evil Boo absorbs everyone.

Outside of that, Cell would kill the Boo's because their bodies are fragile.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

SSJ Goku (android saga before 3yr training) vs Mecha Freeza, Coola, Cold, Ginyu Force.

remove Ginyu Force if too hard and add the Coola Squadron if too easy for Goku.

Goku can take care of Ginyu Tokusentai or Coola Kikosentai easily. He should be able to take care easily Freeza & Cold (since Future Trunks, who was weaker, managed to kill them easily and proved to Cold that he didn't need his sword for that) and he could also easily take care of Coola, so... Goku wins.

SSJ Goku Namek and SSJ Trunks vs Freeza (Mecha or Namek), Cold, and Coola

Trunks beats them alone, since I have him at around Vegeta's & Future Trunks' level during the Cell Games.

Fat Boo vs Evil Boo vs Kid Boo vs Cell vs Freeza at equal power levels and no regeneration.

Cell, because he is perfect.

[mysticboy]

Who would be the strongest character Teincha could beat?

[shonenhikada]

Who would be the strongest character Teincha could beat?

Hmm..Super Perfect Cell.

[Saiga]

Who would be the strongest character Teincha could beat?

Krillin, maybe.

[dbzfan7]

Who would be the strongest character Teincha could beat?

Krillin, maybe.

ah come on kuririn would get destroyed by tiencha. i say around perfect cell or super perfect seems about right. fusion is just that powerful.

[Saiga]

Who would be the strongest character Teincha could beat?

Krillin, maybe.

ah come on kuririn would get destroyed by tiencha. i say around perfect cell or super perfect seems about right. fusion is just that powerful.

I'm not convinced. If that was the case base Gotenks would have been able to destroy any form of Boo... but he needed SS3 (x400 boost) to fight Super Boo, so his base form must be much much weaker. I don't think Super Boo is more than 400x stronger than SPC.

[shonenhikada]

I'm not convinced. If that was the case base Gotenks would have been able to destroy any form of Boo... but he needed SS3 (x400 boost) to fight Super Boo, so his base form must be much much weaker. I don't think Super Boo is more than 400x stronger than SPC.

This is all assuming goten and trunks are above android 18 of course.

[Saiga]

I'm not convinced. If that was the case base Gotenks would have been able to destroy any form of Boo... but he needed SS3 (x400 boost) to fight Super Boo, so his base form must be much much weaker. I don't think Super Boo is more than 400x stronger than SPC.

This is all assuming goten and trunks are above android 18 of course.

No it's not.

It's only assuming Goten and Trunks are above Tenshinhan and Yamcha. There's also the fact that their is a significant gap between Yamcha and Tenshinhan, so Tenshinhan has to lower his power to match Yamcha. Logically, base Gotenks should be stronger than Yamhan.

[shonenhikada]

I'm not convinced. If that was the case base Gotenks would have been able to destroy any form of Boo... but he needed SS3 (x400 boost) to fight Super Boo, so his base form must be much much weaker. I don't think Super Boo is more than 400x stronger than SPC.

This is all assuming goten and trunks are above android 18 of course.

No it's not.

It's only assuming Goten and Trunks are above Tenshinhan and Yamcha. There's also the fact that their is a significant gap between Yamcha and Tenshinhan, so Tenshinhan has to lower his power to match Yamcha. Logically, base Gotenks should be stronger than Yamhan.

Pretty sure Tien is above goten and trunks.

[dbzfan7]

I'm not convinced. If that was the case base Gotenks would have been able to destroy any form of Boo... but he needed SS3 (x400 boost) to fight Super Boo, so his base form must be much much weaker. I don't think Super Boo is more than 400x stronger than SPC.

This is all assuming goten and trunks are above android 18 of course.

No it's not.

It's only assuming Goten and Trunks are above Tenshinhan and Yamcha. There's also the fact that their is a significant gap between Yamcha and Tenshinhan, so Tenshinhan has to lower his power to match Yamcha. Logically, base Gotenks should be stronger than Yamhan.

alright i jumped the gun a bit but to say they would only be around kuririn is ridiculous even if your joking. i probably forgot about ssj's so i guess a better estimate is around imperfect cell freeza.

[Saiga]

Pretty sure Tenshinhan is above goten and trunks.

And I'm 100% sure he couldn't even touch them. If they're at least as strong as Namek Goku, they should be significantly higher than Tenshinhan.

But really they just need to be stronger than Yamcha because of how fusion works.

@dbzfan7

Thanks to Guru's power up, a pretty huge gap was opened up between Kurilin and Yamcha. Kurilin became over 50 times stronger than Saiyan Arc Yamcha. I don't think fusion creates a boost that big, or Gotenks would be an absolute monster with SS3.

[Kaboom]

Frieza might need his third form to take down Yamhan/Tencha.

[dbzfan7]

Pretty sure Tenshinhan is above goten and trunks.

And I'm 100% sure he couldn't even touch them. If they're at least as strong as Namek Goku, they should be significantly higher than Tenshinhan.

But really they just need to be stronger than Yamcha because of how fusion works.

@dbzfan7

Thanks to Guru's power up, a pretty huge gap was opened up between Kurilin and Yamcha. Kurilin became over 50 times stronger than Saiyan Arc Yamcha. I don't think fusion creates a boost that big, or Gotenks would be an absolute monster with SS3.

but tenshinhan and yamcha trained with kaio. i think they would have caught up. plus the power up only made krillin 13,000 i think from 1,000. that isn't that big of a gap. plus fusion i'm pretty sure is a multiplier of the two people using it. so even at saiyan saga thats over 1000x1000. kuririn boost is nothing to the boost from fusion. if kuririn got a 50x boost he would have taken down recoome who had a 40,000 power level. fusion is way better then the potential unlock from the grand elder namek. i think your underestimating how powerful fusion is if you think tencha can't even beat kuririn

[mysticboy]

Fusion is warrior X warrior = result (with the Fusion Dance)
Yamcha X Tein = Teincha

If you believe the strongest character he can beat is final form Freeza (140,000,000), for instance, then both Yamcha and Tein would be at least 11,832 each. I highly doubt Yamcha is that weak tbh.

[Saiga]

Kurilin had a battle power of 75,000 at the battle with Freeza, according to a V-Jump scan. Yamcha was at 1480 in the Saiyan arc. So yes, Kurilin was more than 50x stronger.

Given that we never see Tenshinhan or Yamcha use the Kaio-ken or any indication that they could, I'm going to say the failed to learn it and their gains from training would have been less than what Goku achieved. So I see no reason to think that they caught up.

Finally, fusion doesn't work like that, or Gotenks would be unbeatable. The "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto" only applies to Potara fusion and isn't even necessarily a formula either.

[dbzfan7]

Kurilin had a battle power of 75,000 at the battle with Freeza, according to a V-Jump scan. Yamcha was at 1480 in the Saiyan arc. So yes, Kurilin was more than 50x stronger.

Given that we never see Tenshinhan or Yamcha use the Kaio-ken or any indication that they could, I'm going to say the failed to learn it and their gains from training would have been less than what Goku achieved. So I see no reason to think that they caught up.

Finally, fusion doesn't work like that, or Gotenks would be unbeatable. The "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto" only applies to Potara fusion and isn't even necessarily a formula either.

if fusion didn't work like that gotenks would never be able to stand up to evil boo or any boo period. just cause they didn't learn kaio-ken doesn't mean they gained little power. also your taking a v-jump scan which again may or may not be a real accusation of kuririns power.

[Saiga]

if fusion didn't work like that gotenks would never be able to stand up to evil boo or any boo period. just cause they didn't learn kaio-ken doesn't mean they gained little power. also your taking a v-jump scan which again may or may not be a real accusation of kuririns power.

Yes, he would. They can turn Super Saiyan, so they already have to be pretty strong. As Gotenks, they have SS3, which as mentioned is a 400x boost. There's no evidence that the fusion dance is a multiplication of the user's powers.

There's simply no evidence of how strong they got from training at Kaio's, so speculation is the best we can do. I'm speculating that they didn't get as much out of the training as Goku did if they can't use Kaio-ken.

The scan seems as good as any other statement of power levels. Vegeta notes that Kurilin and Gohan's power is steadily rising after Guru has unlocked their power, so it makes sense for his power to grow so much.

[dbzfan7]

if fusion didn't work like that gotenks would never be able to stand up to evil boo or any boo period. just cause they didn't learn kaio-ken doesn't mean they gained little power. also your taking a v-jump scan which again may or may not be a real accusation of kuririns power.

Yes, he would. They can turn Super Saiyan, so they already have to be pretty strong. As Gotenks, they have SS3, which as mentioned is a 400x boost. There's no evidence that the fusion dance is a multiplication of the user's powers.

There's simply no evidence of how strong they got from training at Kaio's, so speculation is the best we can do. I'm speculating that they didn't get as much out of the training as Goku did if they can't use Kaio-ken.

The scan seems as good as any other statement of power levels. Vegeta notes that Kurilin and Gohan's power is steadily rising after Guru has unlocked their power, so it makes sense for his power to grow so much.

speculation is all we can do for power levels

and super saiyan does not make such a difference. piccolo and vegeta both said so. its the fusions massive ability that makes it possible. hence why base gotenks could take out fat boo after rosat and ssj gotenks could before rosat. if both goten and trunks had ssj3 separately it would have amounted to absolutely nothing. fusion is what made everything possible. piccolo didn't believe in fusion until goku said it is literally outrageously powerful. he even said the metamorese were nothing special until they fused and they didn't have super saiyan.