DBZ Budokai HD Collection: Official On-Going Thread

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Post by GogetaSSJ2 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:25 pm

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How come the second time he slams his head to the ground it doesn't get censored?
Maybe they failed to program the same for destroyed maps.
Actually my guess is because he failed to win the struggle.
I actually double checked, Broly's attack wasn't censored when I won the struggle on a destroyed map. My guess is its only censored on not destroyed maps regardless who wins the struggle.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:27 pm

I saw the censorship page on the front site and I guess I should stick with my PS2 versions. I always hate censorship since somethings should stay the same.
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Post by Hitiro » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:30 pm

Saiga wrote:I didn't say the censoring alone makes it a shit job. But there's also no online, only two games with neither Budokai 2 or IW making it, the replacement music (I know it needed to be done, but the tracks I've heard don't seem to fit as well). It's not just the censorship, but the censorship does make things worse.
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I can't even begin to fathom how anyone can seriously parade around and chastise other fans that dare speak out and explain in detail why they are not happy with a product that's been released.

If it's not what I want, I'm going to speak with my wallet. I'm also going to speak with my words. You're welcome to do the same and explain why you think it's a great product, and we're all more than happy to have that discussion, but I'm not going to allow anyone to legitimately shut down a conversation and other fans just because "hey be happy it's even here!"

Absolutely not. That's beyond insane. "Be happy you even got it"...? That's, like, deliveries of rice to starving people who then ask for pork-fried rice. Not Budokai HD Collection.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I saw the censorship page on the front site and I guess I should stick with my PS2 versions. I always hate censorship since somethings should stay the same.
Its still a good fighting game series and I wish to support them so that another game gets made. But I will be voicing my opinions to NamcoBandai in the hopes that other people will also do it and hopefully this is the last we'll see of this. To just not pick up the game doesn't solve anything, it just prevents the developer from continuing a good series of games.

There is no need to kill the games off just because of one or two mistakes on their part. We as a community need to be voicing what they really need to get rid off/add in to this series of games for them to get back in our good books. And there have been many other, more well known, games from developers that have done far worse to the fans only for the fans to keep purchasing the games. I don't see why any other series of games should deserve a harsher treatment purely because they aren't the titan's of that genre or aren't generally received as well as others.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:38 pm

Has Spike's contract with Namco Bandai ended, so who'll make the next yearly DBZ game for 360/PS3/WiiU? Dimps?

With Spike out of the way, the next DBZ actually may be a great game.
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Post by Hitiro » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:44 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Has Spike's contract with Namco Bandai ended, so who'll make the next yearly DBZ game for 360/PS3/WiiU? Dimps?

With Spike out of the way, the next DBZ actually may be a great game.
I believe Spike said this is as far as they are going but their assets from the games they made will be usable by the next developer Namco Bandai puts money towards. Or so that's what I heard. I may be wrong. I'm sure I heard it in a Q&A with that Treevax/Nostal guy for Ultimate Tenkaichi.

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Post by LeprikanGT » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:53 pm

I hate this so bad. I mean it has already been out before, why change it now? Do these people not realize the internet is a thing and if you have this game, you have seen x9001 worse than a cartoon being shot with a bean of light and it having a bit of blood coming out?

It DOES make me less excited to get this release.

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Post by Hitiro » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:16 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OexODGMn ... re=g-all-u
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The YT vid has all the Ultimate attacks in it. Seems its only Broly's attack which was censored. Unless I missed something in that vid. Perhaps for some reason its an unexplainable and well timed bug? As others have said the "censorship" doesn't appear when the stage is destroyed. So maybe its just a weird glitch like the jittery animation of the Buu's reaching their maximum ki?

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:50 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:I hate this so bad. I mean it has already been out before, why change it now? Do these people not realize the internet is a thing and if you have this game, you have seen x9001 worse than a cartoon being shot with a bean of light and it having a bit of blood coming out?

It DOES make me less excited to get this release.
If Namco Bandai allowed me to choose between Dimps' DBZ Budokai HD or Spike's DBZ For Kinect, I'd probably go for DBZ Budokai HD and make sure they'd ship it securely so it wouldn't be damaged.
Hitiro wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OexODGMn ... re=g-all-u
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The YT vid has all the Ultimate attacks in it. Seems its only Broly's attack which was censored. Unless I missed something in that vid. Perhaps for some reason its an unexplainable and well timed bug? As others have said the "censorship" doesn't appear when the stage is destroyed. So maybe its just a weird glitch like the jittery animation of the Buu's reaching their maximum ki?
I don't usually watch these kind of videos since I already know how the attacks look but the censoring got me interested, not many were censored, though.

#16 (Slight cut when throwing the opponent to the ground)
Broli (Slamming the rival's face to the floor)
Ginyu (No blood when self-injuring -- maybe it was like this in the original Budokai 3)

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Post by mysticboy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:04 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Has Spike's contract with Namco Bandai ended, so who'll make the next yearly DBZ game for 360/PS3/WiiU? Dimps?

With Spike out of the way, the next DBZ actually may be a great game.
Assuming Dimps could do any better.

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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:31 am

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dbboxkaifan wrote:Has Spike's contract with Namco Bandai ended, so who'll make the next yearly DBZ game for 360/PS3/WiiU? Dimps?

With Spike out of the way, the next DBZ actually may be a great game.
Assuming Dimps could do any better.
Well...yeah, they probably can and are completely capable of making a much better product than the likes of Spike. Say what you will about the Budokai series, but the amount of polish and care that went into those games far outweigh anything Spike has done in the past 5 years. All they managed to do was take 3 years and 3 installments to make a solid button masher covered with fan service only to go two steps back with the HD sequel series and take fall right on their asses with the follow up game, Ultimate Blast. Sure, Dimps did the same with Burst Limit but at least it carried over the core gameplay and feel which made the Budokai series fun, which the Raging Blast games do poorly with the Sparking gameplay, as the controls and camera got increasingly worse since the platform jump.
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Post by mysticboy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:10 am

Insertclevername wrote:Well...yeah, they probably can and are completely capable of making a much better product than the likes of Spike. Say what you will about the Budokai series, but the amount of polish and care that went into those games far outweigh anything Spike has done in the past 5 years. All they managed to do was take 3 years and 3 installments to make a solid button masher covered with fan service only to go two steps back with the HD sequel series and take fall right on their asses with the follow up game, Ultimate Blast. Sure, Dimps did the same with Burst Limit but at least it carried over the core gameplay and feel which made the Budokai series fun, which the Raging Blast games do poorly with the Sparking gameplay, as the controls and camera got increasingly worse since the platform jump.
Apples and oranges. To me, nearly everything said about Spike can be said about Dimps when it comes to DBZ games imo. I love both devs and I do want to see more games from them in the future. But we do need a good break from DBZ games at the moment. I just wish Shuiesha thought the same.

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Post by GogetaSSJ2 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:40 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Has Spike's contract with Namco Bandai ended, so who'll make the next yearly DBZ game for 360/PS3/WiiU? Dimps?

With Spike out of the way, the next DBZ actually may be a great game.
Actually Dimps's contract expired a while back as well. Both Spike and Dimps are out, so whoever the new developer for DBZ games is is anyone's guess.
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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:59 am

Can I hope for Cyber Connect 2, not likely :lol:
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:52 am

Sorry if I'm being abrupt here, but I just popped in to say: why the frig didn't they include the second Budokai? That was the best one! It improved on the first game without going too far like the third. It included the Boo saga and had one of the greatest musical scores in a video game. Ever. Although the story mode was a little awkward, I can at least give it credit for being original and interesting with plenty of "what ifs".

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:44 am

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:Can I hope for Cyber Connect 2, not likely :lol:
It'd be awesome if Namco Bandai hired UbiSoft Montreal the ones that produced Naruto The Broken Bond which was a fantastic fighting game, and the way of making the Super Attacks was innovative.

But well, CyberConnect 2 is better than Spike, so if they're hired for it, yay.
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Post by MCDaveG » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:49 am

Dammit, this is so LAME on so many levels. Oh thank you god for my imports and originals of this series!!!
European version too has the censorship?
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Post by LiamKav » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:11 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:The homebrew community has been working on bringing back a lot of features, which of those are OtherOS and PS2, for example. When the time's right no one will need to pay for a USB PS3 to play PS2 games on PS3.

I paid for my PS2 original games so it's just fair that I can play them on PS3 too.
OtherOS was taken out by a firmware update. From what I understand, PS2 emulation required hardware components which are no longer in the PS3. That makes it much harder to put in. Not impossible, but harder.

And to be harsh, you paid for PS2 games, so you have the right to play them on a PS2. Sony don't owe you the right to play PS2 games on a PS3. I can play DVDs on a blu-ray player. I can't play VHS on a DVD player. Them's the breaks.

(This doesn't apply to OtherOS, by the way, which was a feature actively removed from existing PS3s. With backwards compatibility, you knew what you were getting when you bought the PS3, and that hasn't changed.)

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Post by Hitiro » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:42 am

GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Actually Dimps's contract expired a while back as well. Both Spike and Dimps are out, so whoever the new developer for DBZ games is is anyone's guess.
There's a diffence though. Spike is choosing not to renew their contract with NamcoBandai because they feel they've taken the games as far as they can. Dimps however are probably more than happy to have it renewed if NamcoBandai come to them and say "Look, the HD collection sold pretty well. Is there a chance you could make a new Budokai?" Which I really hope is what happens. So don't count Dimps out just yet. We have yet to see what the unit sales are like for the HD collection. I really wish vgchartz would hurry up and do them..

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Post by mysticboy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:06 am

Hitiro wrote:There's a diffence though. Spike is choosing not to renew their contract with NamcoBandai because they feel they've taken the games as far as they can. Dimps however are probably more than happy to have it renewed if NamcoBandai come to them and say "Look, the HD collection sold pretty well. Is there a chance you could make a new Budokai?" Which I really hope is what happens. So don't count Dimps out just yet. We have yet to see what the unit sales are like for the HD collection. I really wish vgchartz would hurry up and do them..
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:56 am

Hitiro wrote:There's a diffence though. Spike is choosing not to renew their contract with NamcoBandai because they feel they've taken the games as far as they can. Dimps however are probably more than happy to have it renewed if NamcoBandai come to them and say "Look, the HD collection sold pretty well. Is there a chance you could make a new Budokai?" Which I really hope is what happens. So don't count Dimps out just yet. We have yet to see what the unit sales are like for the HD collection. I really wish vgchartz would hurry up and do them..
So they're incapable of producing quality DBZ games.
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