Dub Translation Differences in the Movies.

[Puto]

No, the Malaysian dub has the audio going completely pitch-crazy like an old VHS, lol. See 0:25 in the first video.

[Sinestro]

Maybe someone can set me straight on this one:

I remember watching Movie 8 subtitled years back. A scene stuck out in my mind. Piccolo was facing off against Brolly.

"You're a monster."

"A Monster? No, I'm the devil himself."

Of course, the Funi English dub has Brolly responding with "Monster? No. I am a devil."

First question is, were those initial subtitles accurate?

Second... does anyone hate the dub line in particular like I do? It feels... like an unnecessary change. And awkward. (assuming of course, the subtitles I indicated are even accurate to begin with)

Edited because Piccolo wasn't asking a question.

[Ryuman]

I can't give legitimacy for the translation, but I will say that the 'Edited' version seems like the perfect example of how pointlessly little you can change a line to make it "OK".

[VegettoEX]

I don't remember my "wa" and "ga" usage, but Broli's response is something like:

"Ore ga bakemono? Chigau. Ore wa akuma da!"

Basically, "I'm a monster? No, I'm the/a devil!" There's nothing in there about literally being the devil himself. "akuma" can be and is used pretty generically as far as I know, though it can also be used to directly refer to Satan. So it does kinda fall into translator's-choice territory, but I wouldn't personally go with "I'm Satan" or "I'm the devil himself".

[kei17]

Then why is it so abysmal in that first clip Gonstead posted?

The tape of DBZ movie 6 they got was seriously damaged. But the source itself was a copy of the ME tape used for the Cantonese dub, so it still sounds very fine in the most parts.

The VCD that the movie was copied from had likely fallen victim to degradation with time, causing it to be jittery sounding in places.

You can never get a better version because they dubbed over a jittery-sounding tape from the beginning.

Let it be known that you rock, Kei, for knowing so much about the production side of things.

It's easy to know because they left over some title screens written in Cantonese as-is.

"Dragon Ball Z: Super Saiyan Son Goku"


"Dragon Ball Z Part II: The 10 Billion Power Warrior(s)"


And as far as I know, the Cantonese dub is the best-sounding dub. The Latin Spanish dub sounds as good as it, too.

[Puto]

Then why is it so abysmal in that first clip Gonstead posted?

The VCD that the movie was copied from had likely fallen victim to degradation with time, causing it to be jittery sounding in places.

I really wish I had a better copy of the CPC Dub though so it could be a bit more of a fair comparison without suffering from terrible quality.

VCDs are digital - they don't degrade.

[Gokuden]

Laser discs on the other hand do, which is what I think he was talking about.

[linkdude20002001]

I'm not certain, but I think perhaps you might be mixing up the Malaysian dub with the Creative Products (Phillipines) dub. The former has wonderful audio, the latter....yeah, pretty abysmal. At least in the YouTube video.

Listen to the beginning of the Dende and Popo scene. And the little bit of Cha-la Head-cha-la.

[Sinestro]

I don't remember my "wa" and "ga" usage, but Broli's response is something like:

"Ore ga bakemono? Chigau. Ore wa akuma da!"

Basically, "I'm a monster? No, I'm the/a devil!" There's nothing in there about literally being the devil himself. "akuma" can be and is used pretty generically as far as I know, though it can also be used to directly refer to Satan. So it does kinda fall into translator's-choice territory, but I wouldn't personally go with "I'm Satan" or "I'm the devil himself".

Thanks, Mike. That's been on my mind for some time.

Still love that subtitled line, even if it wasn't exactly that way in Japanese.

[Puto]

I don't remember my "wa" and "ga" usage, but Broli's response is something like:

"Ore ga bakemono? Chigau. Ore wa akuma da!"

Basically, "I'm a monster? No, I'm the/a devil!" There's nothing in there about literally being the devil himself. "akuma" can be and is used pretty generically as far as I know, though it can also be used to directly refer to Satan. So it does kinda fall into translator's-choice territory, but I wouldn't personally go with "I'm Satan" or "I'm the devil himself".

I think Simmons actually translated it as 'freak' in that instance. Or was it bakemono that he translated that way? I just know the word 'freak' was in there in the subtitles.

[Gonstead]

I don't remember my "wa" and "ga" usage, but Broli's response is something like:

"Ore ga bakemono? Chigau. Ore wa akuma da!"

Basically, "I'm a monster? No, I'm the/a devil!" There's nothing in there about literally being the devil himself. "akuma" can be and is used pretty generically as far as I know, though it can also be used to directly refer to Satan. So it does kinda fall into translator's-choice territory, but I wouldn't personally go with "I'm Satan" or "I'm the devil himself".

I think Simmons actually translated it as 'freak' in that instance. Or was it bakemono that he translated that way? I just know the word 'freak' was in there in the subtitles.

Here's the scene in question with comparisons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQRU1jVMciE

[Sinestro]

That one Youtube commenter was right.The Green Dub Brolly laughed like Pee Wee Herman.

Clearly, I must watch this thing.

[Gonstead]

Requested by a Youtube user.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Q1WppvfOc

[Ringworm128]

For English dubs it's a toss up between the uncut Ocean dub and the Funimation dub, I think Funimations Tenshinhan is better and has a better delivery in that scene but Ocean does well in that scene too. Also Funi loses points for Krillin's line at the end.

[Super Sonic]

In that scene I prefer Burgmeir's Tien, but the rest I'm so used to both the uncut Ocean dub and tv dub.

[Gonstead]

Requested by someone from another forum - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTYAEs_yD8o

Malaysian Nicky is friggen hilarious!

[Fulicer]

Requested by someone from another forum - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTYAEs_yD8o

Malaysian Nicky is friggen hilarious!

God his voice is incredibly shrill. AB Groupe still leads the pack because of the unusual delivery though. Why is it that the bad English dubs actually say the word "drunk" while the other two dare not mention it? (rhetorical question; probably because of the parents)

[Gonstead]

Here's a preview of the next comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOxQH4tLajU

I'm waiting on someone to see if they can provide me with the Malaysian English Dub for me to complete the comparison.

I gotta say though, all of them actually sounded pretty good and Big Green's Roshi added humor of "Ya got that right!" was actually chuckle worthy.

[Fulicer]

Here's a preview of the next comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOxQH4tLajU

I'm waiting on someone to see if they can provide me with the Malaysian English Dub for me to complete the comparison.

I gotta say though, all of them actually sounded pretty good and Big Green's Roshi added humor of "Ya got that right!" was actually chuckle worthy.

I thought that the "champion liar of all time" part was hilarious. AB Groupe has a way with words, especially in regards to word density.

On thing I remember about the Filipino dub; I remember years ago (like over ten years ago) I downloaded movie 6 off of the net. Back in the days of questionable fan translations. I guess I didn't think of the movie as too weird at the time, but I do remember Coola's hilariously over-modulated voice. Especially during the fight scenes. That one clip when he says "Metal COOOLA" in your upload sticks out like a sore thumb. I must re-watch the movie again.

BTW what's your audio source for the Japanese clips? The DBox versions are always better than the domestic releases. Seemed like audio quality for the movie 6 clip was the typical "optical track" type.

[Gonstead]

Here's a preview of the next comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOxQH4tLajU

I'm waiting on someone to see if they can provide me with the Malaysian English Dub for me to complete the comparison.

I gotta say though, all of them actually sounded pretty good and Big Green's Roshi added humor of "Ya got that right!" was actually chuckle worthy.

I thought that the "champion liar of all time" part was hilarious. AB Groupe has a way with words, especially in regards to word density.

On thing I remember about the Filipino dub; I remember years ago (like over ten years ago) I downloaded movie 6 off of the net. Back in the days of questionable fan translations. I guess I didn't think of the movie as too weird at the time, but I do remember Coola's hilariously over-modulated voice. Especially during the fight scenes. That one clip when he says "Metal COOOLA" in your upload sticks out like a sore thumb. I must re-watch the movie again.

BTW what's your audio source for the Japanese clips? The DBox versions are always better than the domestic releases. Seemed like audio quality for the movie 6 clip was the typical "optical track" type.

For Movie's 4 and beyond, I'm using the Double Feature DVD's.

Movies 1 - 3 use Dragon Box: The Movies for audio and picture.