Anyone catch this?

[dragonpiece]

I kinda have a feeling it may just be a early license of Dragon Ball Z: Battle Of The Gods.

[penguintruth]

To the best of my knowledge, and I will freely concede the point if I am wrong, Pony Canyon had nothing to do with the original production of any Dragon Ball material, yet they were involved in the restoration and remastering of the majority of the Dragon Boxes. Even then, the Dragon Boxes aren't exactly what you would have seen when it originally aired on TV, just like the Level sets being a bit too dark. Why isn't there a boycott against the Dragon Boxes in that case? The only real difference is the masters FUNimation had to work with.

The Dragon Boxes began as a Toei effort with Pony Canyon acting as their tool.

Shouldn't Toei also garner the same level of criticism for perpetuating the spread of the cropped DBZ footage in international markets simply because it's already available?

Oh, I absolutely have problems with Toei. They let Funimation (and other companies worldwide) just crap all over the franchise like they didn't give a damn how it was treated in other countries. Not to mention that Toei is notoriously cheap and a lot of their work can be shoddy. It's frankly a miracle the DB shows turned out even as well as they did, and I'm frankly insulted that they continue to make such subpar grade animation for one of their best selling franchises. That said, they're still the ones who made it, and I can be more forgiving, because without them, there wouldn't be a show.

If only they had Miyazaki's integrity, doing things like sending swords to people insisting "no cuts".

But I bring up Toei's shortcomings when it applies. This is a thread about Funimation and I have a hard time even now trusting them with this franchise because they often carry themselves like they're its savior. But they are making some progress.

[kei17]

The original poster on Blu-ray.com has responded to the result.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=56890&page=66

Funimation did not answer my email but this is interesting, I was searching the internet for information and the site kanzenshuu was talking about it.
Someone there got a hold of Funimation and this is what they said.
*snip*

Well I guess I cant go around as batmaniscool70 anymore. I relay liked that name but as long as someone believes Funimation, in that persons mind I am a lair. I cant have a legitimate conversation anymore without someone thinking I am a lair. I just wanted to share some cool finding with you guys. I just wanted answers myself.
Before I go.
When searching the internet I did find out I was not the only one who saw this.
http://www.dblegends.com/2013/01/dragon-ball-hd-coming/

He said he's not the only one who saw the listing, but dblegends.com obviously just cropped the image he posted and didn't witness it themselves.

[Metalwario64]

...I am a lair... ...thinking I am a lair.

Oh wow.

[penguintruth]

Well I guess I cant go around as batmaniscool70 anymore. I relay liked that name

Yes, because we will never forget the name of that one guy who may or may not have photoshopped a Funimation release schedule. It'll be our "And Slowly I Turned" for the rest of our lives.

[Craddle]

Well I guess I cant go around as batmaniscool70 anymore. I relay liked that name but as long as someone believes Funimation, in that persons mind I am a lair.

Relay? Seriously? You expect us to believe that a representative for FUNimation can't spell "really." Sorry to burst your bubble, but this shiet is as fake as it gets!

WHOA! The people at blu-ray.com are so insistent that this is real that they deleted 2 pages of people posting my images from my facebook. Once I stepped in and started to collaborate everything that was being said, 2 pages were deleted to protect their integrity. I contacted FUNimation and asked them to personally debunk this BS themselves on Blu-ray.com.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Oh, I absolutely have problems with Toei. They let Funimation (and other companies worldwide) just crap all over the franchise like they didn't give a damn how it was treated in other countries. Not to mention that Toei is notoriously cheap and a lot of their work can be shoddy. It's frankly a miracle the DB shows turned out even as well as they did, and I'm frankly insulted that they continue to make such subpar grade animation for one of their best selling franchises.

Well...Toei kinda....*cringe*...doesn't give a damn. Kinda. They do, but not in an admirable way.

Put more bluntly, the anime was created with the intent of helping to sell the merchandise in Japan. Over here in North America (and other places), the anime intself ended up being the main product of concern among consumers. Sure, I'm certain that the anime probably helped sell some DB toys over here, but we still regard the anime as the main product nevertheless. With Toei, it's not that they don't care per say, but their primary concern with the DB animes is the money they bring back, not its creative or artistic merits.

Depending on the anime, an animation company will treat a show differently when it comes to international distribution. For example, "Yu-Gi-Oh"...I'll admit, I like the show, but even in Japan, there are plenty of moments when it's just a serialized, 30-minute toy commercial. It would only be fair to say that the show was created primarily for helping to sell a children's card game. So, TMS not only allowed 4Kids to make edits, but encouraged them, because their thought was that 4Kids knew North American audiences better than they did, and they wanted the merchandise to sell. Essentially, "We want this to sell, so whatever you have to do to the show to increase sales, do it." Toei had the same attitude with 4Kids and "One Piece."

Conversely, you have a show like "Neon Genesis Evangelion," where the original animation studio cares very much about its creative and artistic merits. Tiffany Grant said that during the initial bidding war to bring Evangelion to North America, ADV won despite not being the highest bidder. The highest bidder was actually Sony, but they insisted on making a ton of changes, including replacing the musical score and editing out all of the more introspective/philosophical scenes and emphasizing the more action-oriented scenes...as Grant put it, Sony basically wanted to recut it into a new show that might as well have been called "Angel Fighters." Hideaki Anno and his studio would have none of that, and so ADV got the rights to Evangelion based on their promise to faithfully adapt it, and even then, Grant described the production of the dub as the most supervised (in terms of Japanese involvement) show she's ever worked on in her entire acting career.

It would certainly be nice to think that Toei wanted to give the DB animes the "Evangelion" treatment, but in reality, what they did was infinitely closer to the "Yu-Gi-Oh" treatment. They just want the show to sell above all else. They give a damn in that they want it to sell, but they don't give (that much of) a damn if the quality of the show itself suffers when it comes to international distribution, hence the reason the DB animes only had one or two international adaptations that were all-around stellar.

[Gokuden]

I contacted Gen's assistant yesterday, and wanted to ask her for a transfer over to public relations in order to get an official statement, but she was out to lunch and I wasn't too crazy about this whole thing.

You can't blame Bluray.com posters; they want everything on Blu-ray, and so do I.

[AgitoZ]

Depending on the anime, an animation company will treat a show differently when it comes to international distribution. For example, "Yu-Gi-Oh"...I'll admit, I like the show, but even in Japan, there are plenty of moments when it's just a serialized, 30-minute toy commercial. It would only be fair to say that the show was created primarily for helping to sell a children's card game. So, TMS not only allowed 4Kids to make edits, but encouraged them, because their thought was that 4Kids knew North American audiences better than they did, and they wanted the merchandise to sell. Essentially, "We want this to sell, so whatever you have to do to the show to increase sales, do it." Toei had the same attitude with 4Kids and "One Piece."

Not try to derail your point (that's for the next paragraph), but I'm pretty sure TMS has nothing to do with Yu-Gi-Oh. Don't get me wrong, TMS can also be shitty towards licensees, however what happened to the franchise was not their fault.

Anyways, I think penguintruth, myself and plenty of others know of this fault with Toei (I think that's why he mentioned it in his post). That's probably their biggest fault when it comes to international market and hopefully they're starting to learn their lesson with One Piece.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Depending on the anime, an animation company will treat a show differently when it comes to international distribution. For example, "Yu-Gi-Oh"...I'll admit, I like the show, but even in Japan, there are plenty of moments when it's just a serialized, 30-minute toy commercial. It would only be fair to say that the show was created primarily for helping to sell a children's card game. So, TMS not only allowed 4Kids to make edits, but encouraged them, because their thought was that 4Kids knew North American audiences better than they did, and they wanted the merchandise to sell. Essentially, "We want this to sell, so whatever you have to do to the show to increase sales, do it." Toei had the same attitude with 4Kids and "One Piece."

Not try to derail your point (that's for the next paragraph), but I'm pretty sure TMS has nothing to do with Yu-Gi-Oh. Don't get me wrong, TMS can also be shitty towards licensees, however what happened to the franchise was not their fault.

Oh, whoops. Forgot that Yu-Gi-Oh was NAS.

But yeah, I got the impression people were aware of Toei often giving less than 100% effort, I just figured I'd state things a little more bluntly. As Sean Schemmel said, "It's all about the money...even for Toei."

[Jackal puFF]

I want my dragonball movies blu-ray! Like Path To Power.

[Gyt Kaliba]

With the DVD, their story was "we will have more to say later"... as opposed to this, where it was "it is not real and here is why it is not real."

And that's why it would be really fucking irresponsible to post things like this as news before you do any independent research.

Oh yeah, I know. I'm not saying that lends credence to this being real, when it's not. I just meant that it was ironically the first thing that I thought of...which could even be what the hoaxer was going for, if they remembered that whole debacle.

[dprez]

My hopes went up and down during my read through this thread... Luckily it ended on a high note, with this shit being fake and my hopes for a Dragon Ball Dragon Box lives on!

[Kendamu]

I'm okay with this not being a real release. I'm also okay with it being a real release.

owever, I am going to murder the crap out of that lying liarpants batmaniscool70. He's not nearly as truthful as batmanisawesome69 was.

[Metalwario64]

I am going to murder the crap out of that lying liarpants batmaniscool70.

You mean "lairpants".

[kei17]

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=56890&page=66

Ok jokes over as much as I would like this to continue I can not. Most of you should already know by now I was just trolling you guys and for those who don't know. Come on!
My actions do not speck for Blu-ray.com.
Blu-ray.com Is a great website and my actions do not reflect that.
I did not however mean to troll so many people. I thought this thread was dead. In reality I did not know or not if my joke would have even been read. But I was wrong. Within a couple of minutes it was already on kanzenshuu and several anime news sites all before even two comments were on this thread. I'm not going to lie, I got a good kick out of it. Sorry about that. If there is one thing I have learned is nothing is unread on the internet and things can spread like wildfire. And no I did not stop there I played along for a good long time. I knew eventually I would have to come clean but in the mean time I was more that happy to see people say WTF. It seems that my trolling had gone a bit to far. I have made one to many people upset. Funimation even got involved. The only thing fueling the idea that I would keep this going is Craddles comments about "I contacted FUNimation and asked them to personally debunk this BS themselves on Blu-ray.com." That would have been so fun to see. That would however be going way to far with the trolling. Sorry to Funimation if I have wasted your time in any way.
Sorry to kanzenshuu members that were duped.
Ps I did not use photoshop. It was a HTML edit tool. It was much easier and took 2 seconds.

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[Thanos]

NO. They should NEVER use "season". They don't know what that means.

Yeah. It's very misleading. When you're dealing with, say, a TV series in the U.S. (and I'm fairly certain the usage of 'Season' rather than 'Series' to describe an arc of a series is exclusive to North America), a Season is a very concise, around 24-episode arc, (absolutely not 39 episodes) with a beginning, middle, and end/cliffhanger. Dragon Ball does not have these... in general, there is a smooth segue between arcs, so it is quite noticeable, say, when going from "Season One" to "Season Two" of the Dragon Ball Z Orange Bricks. The first "season" ends with Bulma, Gohan and Kuririn landing on Namek. I remember facepalming at how random and incomplete this felt as an ending to a supposed branch of the series. Of course there's never going to be a point in which a clean break exists as precisely as a show such as, say, Dexter, so my reaction was more to the fact that the terminology of "Season" was used, rather than "Part". It could've easily been:

Part One - The Saiyan Saga
Part Two - The Namek Saga, etc.

So, I think we can all agree that the "Season" system is faulty. The only ways to do it seems to be how FUNimation did it in the old days, which was releasing several-episode DVD's every so often, and also the Dragon Box system which divided them into complete story arcs.

[Gaffer Tape]

a Season is a very concise, around 24-episode arc, (absolutely not 39 episodes) with a beginning, middle, and end/cliffhanger.

Not necessarily. It doesn't have to have anything to do with storytelling. It's simply the episodes that are produced for that year's (or whatever span of time's) broadcast. Seeing as how some shows are completely episodic (ie. a sitcom), only its individual episodes have a narrative structure, not the seasons themselves. Most of FUNimation's actual seasons did manage to end on a point of narrative closure (being on cable and being able to produce as many as 70 episodes for a season certainly helped, but before that, they chopped episodes out to get down to a more manageable 26), as DB is not terribly episodic, and they didn't wish to confuse people. So I have no problem with their divisions not necessarily ending on a point of narrative closure (the Dragon Boxes do that too), just that they're slapping the term on a completely arbitrary collection of episodes that have nothing to do with how they were collected for broadcast.

[JulieYBM]

Japan does use the term 'season', just not in regards to Dragon Ball. If we're to believe Wikipedia, One Piece's DVDs in Japan are devided into seasons (from シーズン). Episodes #517+ are currently called 15thシーズン 魚人島編.

[Gaffer Tape]

Oh, geez. Why do I have the feeling Toei picked up a new usage of this "cool, English word" from FUNimation?