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I don't recall that being stated anywhere but there is this:Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:I don't remember, exactly, but I think a Daizenshuu source said Vegetto as a Super Saiya-Jin was three times stronger than Gohan-Buu; so divide that by 50, which was the stated SSJ multiplier and you get someone slightly weaker than Super Perfect Seru. Seems reasonable than making him ungodly powerful.
Because Vegetto is too awesome for any word to describe him. He doesn't really need SSj to beat Boo, but he did anyway to make him feel very hopeless.Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:People really underrate Gogeta in general and overrate base Vegetto.
Even Rou Kaioshin believed that base Vegetto would be enough for Gohan Boo. I doubt base Gogeta would have a chance against Gohan Boo.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Because Vegetto is too awesome for any word to describe him. He doesn't really need SSj to beat Boo, but he did anyway to make him feel very hopeless.Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:People really underrate Gogeta in general and overrate base Vegetto.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Gogeta is a pretty awesome non-canon character in Rebirth of Fusion; GT, maybe another story, although I think he did a similar thing as Vegetto in making Shenron feel hopeless so he could throw something like the Negative Karma Ball and revitalize the Earth's positive energy.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Because Vegetto is too awesome for any word to describe him. He doesn't really need SSj to beat Boo, but he did anyway to make him feel very hopeless.
Oh yes, forgot about that. However, I think it's worth to note that Rou Kaioshin said that the result would be strong enough to beat Boo in base not because of Gohan's power-up, but because of the Potara.Fox666 wrote:He was speaking of Goku merging with Gohan, not Vegeta. And since Gohan doens't need to transform in Super Saiyan anymore, it is a very different case.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
I guess if Raditz fuse with Goku so he would beat Gotenks-Boo in base.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Oh yes, forgot about that. However, I think it's worth to note that Rou Kaioshin said that the result would be strong enough to beat Boo in base not because of Gohan's power-up, but because of the Potara.Fox666 wrote:He was speaking of Goku merging with Gohan, not Vegeta. And since Gohan doens't need to transform in Super Saiyan anymore, it is a very different case.
Still, Gohan/Goku potara vs Gotenks-Boo is a lot different from Vegetto vs Gohan-Boo. I don't think you can use that as evidence for base Vegetto's superiority.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Oh yes, forgot about that. However, I think it's worth to note that Rou Kaioshin said that the result would be strong enough to beat Boo in base not because of Gohan's power-up, but because of the Potara.Fox666 wrote:He was speaking of Goku merging with Gohan, not Vegeta. And since Gohan doens't need to transform in Super Saiyan anymore, it is a very different case.
Still hoping for canon Gogeta in Battle of GodsCaBrPi wrote:Based on what, exactly? It's possible that Vegetto could've beaten Boo in base, but decided that Super Saiyan would give him enough of an edge that Boo would try to absorb him. And Gogeta has never shown up in manga-based anything.Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:People really underrate Gogeta in general and overrate base Vegetto.
Correction: Movie 12.Fox666 wrote:You think he would be any different from movie 13?
Yeah, I wanna know what people think on this subject and why.Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:I don't see why not; I've always thought Gogetta and Vegetto were both very similar in that they didn't mess around when they didn't have to, except Vegetto was more Vegeta-dominant and Gogeta was Gokuu-dominant.
To be perfectly honest, I couldn't care less about the fans a re-issue might alienate because if all they're concerned about is being able to scalp the people who were either unaware of the Dragon Boxes or couldn't afford them at the time, they're just leeches and deserve to have their greed backfire on them.
