One Hour Toriko/One Piece/DBZ crossover to Air April 7

[VegettoEX]

There was barely consistency with strength throughout the original run of the series, never mind almost two decades years later thrown together with other franchises that are wholly incompatible with each other to begin with.

If it was consistent with strengths, everyday inanimate objects would be spontaneously exploding just from Goku and others walking around. That's not interesting to anyone.

OK, maybe a little.

[dbzfan7]

There was barely consistency with strength throughout the original run of the series, never mind almost two decades years later thrown together with other franchises that are wholly incompatible with each other to begin with.

If it was consistent with strengths, everyday inanimate objects would be spontaneously exploding just from Goku and others walking around. That's not interesting to anyone.

OK, maybe a little.

I just can't see Goku needing SSJ against Luffy. Its ridiculous. Freeza is more powerful then anything Luffy or Toriko fought, and Goku has far surpassed Freeza. Goku using SSJ against Luffy suggests Luffy is stronger then Freeza.

[VegettoEX]

So what?

Incompatible series. Unless Oda and Toriyama are the same person and they totally pull a fast one on you in the end and somehow Captain Kuro was Freeza in disguise the whole time, then it doesn't matter, it can't matter, and it never will matter.

What you're in effect saying is that you don't want this crossover special to exist, because if it does, it's going to have to compromise to tell ANYTHING resembling a coherent story, never mind an entertaining one.

[dbzfan7]

So what?

Incompatible series. Unless Oda and Toriyama are the same person and they totally pull a fast one on you in the end and somehow Captain Kuro was Freeza in disguise the whole time, then it doesn't matter, it can't matter, and it never will matter.

What you're in effect saying is that you don't want this crossover special to exist, because if it does, it's going to have to compromise to tell ANYTHING resembling a coherent story, never mind an entertaining one.

Oh no this cross over changes nothing. It ain't canon since once it is over they will forget they ever met kinda like how all cross overs end. I may hate how they are nerfing the crap out of dragon ball, but I can still enjoy the special. I still believe Goku should have been like how he was in the 2008 special. He would watch as Toriko and Luffy fight until he feels he needs to step in.

[omegalucas]

There's hardly any series that Dragon Ball would crossover easily, maybe Saint Seiya could...
The thing is, of course you can't have DB characters with their full strength because that way a) the foe would be too weak for them or b) he'd be far too strong for the others.
Having them nerfed allows a bit more of character interaction.

[dbzfan7]

There's hardly any series that Dragon Ball would crossover easily, maybe Saint Seiya could...
The thing is, of course you can't have DB characters with their full strength because that way a) the foe would be too weak for them or b) he'd be far too strong for the others.
Having them nerfed allows a bit more of character interaction.

That's why you either have Goku in an earlier timeline come in, or have Goku take a similar role he had in the 2008 special.

[MCDaveG]

There's hardly any series that Dragon Ball would crossover easily, maybe Saint Seiya could...
The thing is, of course you can't have DB characters with their full strength because that way a) the foe would be too weak for them or b) he'd be far too strong for the others.
Having them nerfed allows a bit more of character interaction.

Yeah, in Saint Seiya, Saints are able to move or do attacks in lightspeed. But Saint Seiya is hardly popular as Toriko, One Piece or Dragon Ball, as it is 24 years since it was serialized in Shonen Jump and they moved off from TOEI in this century with the original series.

[MCDaveG]

There's hardly any series that Dragon Ball would crossover easily, maybe Saint Seiya could...
The thing is, of course you can't have DB characters with their full strength because that way a) the foe would be too weak for them or b) he'd be far too strong for the others.
Having them nerfed allows a bit more of character interaction.

That's why you either have Goku in an earlier timeline come in, or have Goku take a similar role he had in the 2008 special.

Why so in-universe? Characters powers are as big, as the writers needs them to be.... Never understood how everyone needs concrete charts of powers.

[JulieYBM]

There's hardly any series that Dragon Ball would crossover easily, maybe Saint Seiya could...
The thing is, of course you can't have DB characters with their full strength because that way a) the foe would be too weak for them or b) he'd be far too strong for the others.
Having them nerfed allows a bit more of character interaction.

That's why you either have Goku in an earlier timeline come in, or have Goku take a similar role he had in the 2008 special.

Because they didn't want to. This is for promoting Toriko and Battle of Gods. You can't just leave Gokuu out.

There's no indication Gokuu won't be much stronger than everyone else, either. He's a Super Saiyan while fighting Luffy because it looks cool. He's a Super Saiyan against the Toriko monster because he might just need to be, plus it looks cool. That's all.

[dbzfan7]

There's hardly any series that Dragon Ball would crossover easily, maybe Saint Seiya could...
The thing is, of course you can't have DB characters with their full strength because that way a) the foe would be too weak for them or b) he'd be far too strong for the others.
Having them nerfed allows a bit more of character interaction.

That's why you either have Goku in an earlier timeline come in, or have Goku take a similar role he had in the 2008 special.

Why so in-universe? Characters powers are as big, as the writers needs them to be.... Never understood how everyone needs concrete charts of powers.

Its just feels sooo wrong. There are many ways to keep them closer in power or have it reasonable instead of nerfing the DB cast to such a degree. Use Saiyan Saga, or Freeza Saga Goku. Freeza saga may be over kill, but using Boo saga Goku is ridiculous. Saiyan Saga wasn't overkill ahead of these guys. With Freeza saga Goku you get to keep in Super Saiyan.

Because they didn't want to. This is for promoting Toriko and Battle of Gods. You can't just leave Gokuu out.

There's no indication Gokuu won't be much stronger than everyone else, either. He's a Super Saiyan while fighting Luffy because it looks cool. He's a Super Saiyan against the Toriko monster because he might just need to be, plus it looks cool. That's all.

I never said to leave Goku out, but is consistency really that hard. No matter what anyone says its still ridiculous. Some people may be bothered while others aren't. I for one am bothered by it. I can still enjoy the special, but still be critical about nerfs.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

There was barely consistency with strength throughout the original run of the series, never mind almost two decades years later thrown together with other franchises that are wholly incompatible with each other to begin with.

If it was consistent with strengths, everyday inanimate objects would be spontaneously exploding just from Goku and others walking around. That's not interesting to anyone.

OK, maybe a little.

There was more consistency than this though, but I know what you mean, we couldnt have good character interactions with them being at there usual power. How cool would it be if stuff did spontaneously explode around them when they were walking though.

[dbzfan7]

Treating this special like the cross over games. They make no sense, but are enjoyable.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Treating this special like the cross over games. They make no sense, but are enjoyable.

I don't think it's meant to make sense in the characters own series, it's just meant to be an anjoyable ride. At least I hope so.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Roshi trying to grab Nami's boobs and a wild tentacle monster? This special is going to be all kinds of sexy.

I was already laughing my ass off at Roshi trying to grope Nami, you just had to make me realize the 'implications' of the tentacle monster. Cannot unsee.

I still know nothing about Toriko, but this actually looks to me like it might be a pretty fun crossover. Nothing serious or 'must see' of course, but a fun little diversion. Those are always nice to have.

[fogdark]

Stop thinking of the series with the mind of an adult. Seriously!
Just imagine a 10 year old in Japan, who's a fan of both One Piece and Toriko, and was also a fan of Dragon Ball Kai or his parents introduced him to Dragon Ball.
He'd be super excited. He's not going to care about power levels, or consistency or stuff like that. He wants to see SSj Goku doing a Kamehameha while Luffy using Gear Second does a Gum Gum jet Bazooka, as Toriko ....as Toriko does Toriko stuff.
This is what this special is about, is targeted toward kids. It's simple fun and an opportunity to see the characters interact and defeat a bad guy together. That's it.
I agree with VegettoEX, these 3 series aren't suppose to mix together. They're from different worlds altogether. So they being together in the first place is already a huge problem. And then you have Luffy, Toriko and Goku who are main characters. So they can't just nerf the others. They have to be somewhat on equal standing...
I, for one, I'm excited and take this special for what it is. An hour where my brain can take a rest while I watch the pretty moving pictures...

[omegalucas]

Stop thinking of the series with the mind of an adult. Seriously!
Just imagine a 10 year old in Japan, who's a fan of both One Piece and Toriko, and was also a fan of Dragon Ball Kai or his parents introduced him to Dragon Ball.
He'd be super excited. He's not going to care about power levels, or consistency or stuff like that. He wants to see SSj Goku doing a Kamehameha while Luffy using Gear Second does a Gum Gum jet Bazooka, as Toriko ....as Toriko does Toriko stuff.
This is what this special is about, is targeted toward kids. It's simple fun and an opportunity to see the characters interact and defeat a bad guy together. That's it.
I agree with VegettoEX, these 3 series aren't suppose to mix together. They're from different worlds altogether. So they being together in the first place is already a huge problem. And then you have Luffy, Toriko and Goku who are main characters. So they can't just nerf the others. They have to be somewhat on equal standing...
I, for one, I'm excited and take this special for what it is. An hour where my brain can take a rest while I watch the pretty moving pictures...

My feelings exactly.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Stop thinking of the series with the mind of an adult. Seriously!
Just imagine a 10 year old in Japan, who's a fan of both One Piece and Toriko, and was also a fan of Dragon Ball Kai or his parents introduced him to Dragon Ball.
He'd be super excited. He's not going to care about power levels, or consistency or stuff like that. He wants to see SSj Goku doing a Kamehameha while Luffy using Gear Second does a Gum Gum jet Bazooka, as Toriko ....as Toriko does Toriko stuff.
This is what this special is about, is targeted toward kids. It's simple fun and an opportunity to see the characters interact and defeat a bad guy together. That's it.
I agree with VegettoEX, these 3 series aren't suppose to mix together. They're from different worlds altogether. So they being together in the first place is already a huge problem. And then you have Luffy, Toriko and Goku who are main characters. So they can't just nerf the others. They have to be somewhat on equal standing...
I, for one, I'm excited and take this special for what it is. An hour where my brain can take a rest while I watch the pretty moving pictures...

Actually when you say it like that it makes sense. What was I thinking, it's not meant to make sense it's just mindless fun (hopefully).

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Why is Goku SSJ against Luffy? He would crush Luffy easily in base. Why is Gohan a total Pussy who moves so slow? Why is dbz getting nerfed so badly? This is why I wanted Goku to take the role he did in the YSG&FR special, be the guy who only fights if he needs to, that way no nerfing is needed.

So, you would like to see base Goku beating Luffy with one punch in base, then Toriko with a kick, and then all the villains with a Kiai?

[dbzfan7]

Why is Goku SSJ against Luffy? He would crush Luffy easily in base. Why is Gohan a total Pussy who moves so slow? Why is dbz getting nerfed so badly? This is why I wanted Goku to take the role he did in the YSG&FR special, be the guy who only fights if he needs to, that way no nerfing is needed.

So, you would like to see base Goku beating Luffy with one punch in base, then Toriko with a kick, and then all the villains with a Kiai?

Not really a nice way to put it.

I don't want them fighting each other at all. I'm hoping for Goku to take a similar role he did in the 2008 special. But that's not going to happen. I learned to dismiss this a senseless fun.

[Chuquita]

I don't really care about the power level stuff; I'm far more entertained that they're going to be fighting an energy-sucking wild tentacle monster, because I'll be honest, in terms of villains/monsters, I didn't see that coming. O_O