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Post by Ringworm128 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:22 pm

One thing that bothers me about Monica Rial's Bulma is that she seems to have a nasally quality to her voice which I just don't think works for a character like Bulma that is one aspect I definitely prefer Tiffany Vollmer on. That said it still isn't enough for me to dislike Monica Rial's Bulma.

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Post by Nikkolas » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:48 pm

I also noticed how nasally her Bulma was and it kinda put me off at first. However it's really only obvious when she's being obnoxious or haughty. Granted, that is a lot of the time but it's not all the time and so I got used her "regular Bulma" voice which i liked

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Post by matt0044 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:45 am

Nikkolas wrote:I also noticed how nasally her Bulma was and it kinda put me off at first. However it's really only obvious when she's being obnoxious or haughty. Granted, that is a lot of the time but it's not all the time and so I got used her "regular Bulma" voice which i liked
I like how she can do that and portray her other emotions perfectly unlike Vollmer who seemed to fail in that regard.

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Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:51 am

The only time I thought Vollmer failed emotionally wise are the scenes where Bulma was upset i.e http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dod6msevRnM

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Post by WittyUsername » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:05 pm

I know I'm bringing an old thread back here, but I figured I would give my opinions on the matter. Some of the new voices in Kai were definitely superior to the old voices in my opinion such as Chris Ayers as Freeza. On the other hand, there were some old voices that I prefer such as McCoy as 18, Jackson as Oolong, and Armstrong as Ginyu. As far as Gohan is concerned, personally either Nadolny or Clinkenbeard is fine with me and I don't really have much of a preference. All in all though, I would say that the Kai dub is much better than the Z dub for the most part.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:02 pm

Freeza: Love the new voice, not much else I can say. (Still have a soft spot for Linda Young, don't care what anyone says)

Gohan: I like it for the Saiyan/Freeza sagas, but not for the Android/Cell sagas. The voice seems too high at times, likewhen Gohan yells. I like the Z voice more, especially for Kid Goku.

Narrator: On his own I like the new voice, but there's something about Kyle Herbert's Z Narrator voice just got me really excited to watch the episode.

Guldo: Decent,I prefer Bill Townsley, whether his Cui and Guldo are reslly close or not, I think Townsley's voice fits Guldo better.

Burter: Not bad. Sabat did the character better to me though.

Jeice: Both voices are great, so its a tie.

Ginyu: Seems really close to Armstrong, who is my personal favorite Ginyu voice, but R. Bruce Elliot does a great job.

#18: Made her sound a lot hotter, but too close to Gohan for me.

#19: The Kai voice and Z Redub (without filter) seem pretty close to each other so no real opinion.

Oolong: from what I saw of the Curse of the Blood Rubies, he was pretty good but his old voice seemed more pig and coward like, which is what Oolong is.

Bulma: I don't understand the "valley girl" of her Z actress, but I like Rial's voice for her. Different, but fitting.

Zarbon: both Z and Kai capture the "regal" side of him, but I like Tatum does a better job. Sabat & Tatum are both pretty good at the monster side of him though.

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Re: How did the re-cast characters turn out (in your opinion

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:49 am

I like Chris Ayres for Freeza in the sense that he was the smart choice as he sounds nearly identical to the japanese voice. HOWEVER there are a lot of times where I think he can over-act some times. Like Freeza's yells and battle cries. He sounds like a chinese amazon. Then again the japanese one did too. :?
I prefer Linda young in the early remastered version. To me she sounded at least consistant with her emotions and her grunts and yells werent as shrill as most of the various ones in kai. Then theres the english accent Chris gives Freeza, the director who considered that ruined the entire preformance for me. It just comes off as unnatural from how forced it is. It also makes Freeza sound very stereotypical.

Colleen was probably the logical choice but her preformance as Gohan most of the time is just hard to sit through, its not bad in quality at all, but the sheer grating screams she gives is just torture. Her speaking voice as Gohan is perfect enough but only when hes just talking normally, any other time its just grating. Stephony Nadoly at least had the least annoying tone, her yells were actual yells and not long shrieks like Colleen's.

I cant stand Jieces voice, sounded almost ripped from the Abridged show where he still has that stupid accent only more muffled.

Then the narrator... the new one totally changes the type of story DBZ used to feel like. Kyle kept the action packed scene DBZ was known for, the new guy makes the show feel like its Soul calibur.

I never liked Sean Schemmel as King Kai. It didnt fit his character to me at all, they shouldn't have tried to mimic Don Brown with it. In that case its a great impersonnation but for the character he sounds more like he should be Oolong rather. Dean Galloway seemed to take his role more seriously in the ocean dub.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:21 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Ceyli Juliann Delgadillo who did his voice for a time sounded most natural for me, he actually sounded like a little boy and not a bad eric cartman impression.
I dunno...it may have sounded a bit more natural, but it also lacked expression, at least IMO. There just wasn't any emotion to her reading for the role at all. She's probably my least favorite Kid Goku I've heard, and that's even taking into consideration one-time things like Brianne Siddall's take in Final Bout.

A quick question for all of those that don't like the 'rasp' that Nadolny and arguably Clinkenbeard bring to the role - does it bother you in regular animation as well, because it tends to happen in a lot more than Dragon Ball. Take Bobby Hill from King of the Hill for example. That's pretty raspy and not very realistic of a little boy voice, but I've never heard any complaints towards it really.
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Post by matt0044 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:38 am

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote: but the sheer grating screams she gives is just torture.
Considering he's a boy before puberty, I'm not surprised.

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Post by ABED » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:27 am

Ceyli Juliann Delgadillo
Her Goku voice was too soft, it didn't have any oomph to it, for lack of a better term.
I like Chris Ayres for Freeza in the sense that he was the smart choice as he sounds nearly identical to the japanese voice. HOWEVER there are a lot of times where I think he can over-act some times. Like Freeza's yells and battle cries. He sounds like a chinese amazon. Then again the japanese one did too. :?
I prefer Linda young in the early remastered version. To me she sounded at least consistant with her emotions and her grunts and yells werent as shrill as most of the various ones in kai. Then theres the english accent Chris gives Freeza, the director who considered that ruined the entire preformance for me. It just comes off as unnatural from how forced it is. It also makes Freeza sound very stereotypical.
Linda was all around terrible with the role, and so what if he sounds shrill? Freeza's a villain, more unlikable the better. I also don't see the big deal about having an English accent or why that's stereotypical.
Colleen was probably the logical choice but her preformance as Gohan most of the time is just hard to sit through, its not bad in quality at all, but the sheer grating screams she gives is just torture. Her speaking voice as Gohan is perfect enough but only when hes just talking normally, any other time its just grating. Stephony Nadoly at least had the least annoying tone, her yells were actual yells and not long shrieks like Colleen's.
Her screams are grating? What about Nadolny's?! That's grating! I never heard anything as piercing or grating coming from Colleen. I don't hear what any of you guys hear, I constantly hear shrieks from Nadolny. I wish I could get inside your guys' heads so I can hear things the way you do.
Then the narrator... the new one totally changes the type of story DBZ used to feel like. Kyle kept the action packed scene DBZ was known for, the new guy makes the show feel like its Soul calibur.
Now I see, you don't like it because of nostalgia. The way DBZ used to feel wasn't DBZ, it was the Americanized and bastardized version that was just "an action cartoon" which they wouldn't let you forget through everything from the music to the obnoxious monster truck announcer. The new guy sounds avuncular, he sounds like a narrator. Kyle's a good actor, but he doesn't have a narrator's voice.
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Ceyli Juliann Delgadillo
Her Goku voice was too soft, it didn't have any oomph to it, for lack of a better term.
I like Chris Ayres for Freeza in the sense that he was the smart choice as he sounds nearly identical to the japanese voice. HOWEVER there are a lot of times where I think he can over-act some times. Like Freeza's yells and battle cries. He sounds like a chinese amazon. Then again the japanese one did too. :?
I prefer Linda young in the early remastered version. To me she sounded at least consistant with her emotions and her grunts and yells werent as shrill as most of the various ones in kai. Then theres the english accent Chris gives Freeza, the director who considered that ruined the entire preformance for me. It just comes off as unnatural from how forced it is. It also makes Freeza sound very stereotypical.
Linda was all around terrible with the role, and so what if he sounds shrill? Freeza's a villain, more unlikable the better. I also don't see the big deal about having an English accent or why that's stereotypical.
Colleen was probably the logical choice but her preformance as Gohan most of the time is just hard to sit through, its not bad in quality at all, but the sheer grating screams she gives is just torture. Her speaking voice as Gohan is perfect enough but only when hes just talking normally, any other time its just grating. Stephony Nadoly at least had the least annoying tone, her yells were actual yells and not long shrieks like Colleen's.
Her screams are grating? What about Nadolny's?! That's grating! I never heard anything as piercing or grating coming from Colleen. I don't hear what any of you guys hear, I constantly hear shrieks from Nadolny. I wish I could get inside your guys' heads so I can hear things the way you do.
Then the narrator... the new one totally changes the type of story DBZ used to feel like. Kyle kept the action packed scene DBZ was known for, the new guy makes the show feel like its Soul calibur.
Now I see, you don't like it because of nostalgia. The way DBZ used to feel wasn't DBZ, it was the Americanized and bastardized version that was just "an action cartoon" which they wouldn't let you forget through everything from the music to the obnoxious monster truck announcer. The new guy sounds avuncular, he sounds like a narrator. Kyle's a good actor, but he doesn't have a narrator's voice.
Nadolny and Clinkenbeard can both sound grating when they yell. It's not really a big deal but its there.

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Post by ABED » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:07 pm

I don't have a problem with Colleen.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:19 pm

They didn't recast Goku, Vegeta or Kaio-sama unfortunately and that's disappointing but people seem to be fond of the Superman Goku and Deep-Voiced Vegeta (plus the pathetic clown voice of Kaio-sama). Can't please everyone, I'd say.

But they even messed up with the Gohan recast making him into an annoying high-pitched girlie character completely.
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dbboxkaifan wrote:They didn't recast Goku, Vegeta or Kaio-sama unfortunately and that's disappointing but people seem to be fond of the Superman Goku and Deep-Voiced Vegeta (plus the pathetic clown voice of Kaio-sama). Can't please everyone, I'd say.

But they even messed up with the Gohan recast making him into an annoying high-pitched girlie character completely.
Goku doesn't sound like Superman, and I don't see how Vegeta's low voice is a negative. Even Horikawa's voice wasn't high.

Gohan is a child, he should have a high pitched voice.
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ABED wrote:Gohan is a child, he should have a high pitched voice.
Not all kids have high pitched vocals and I've not met one that has, sure it doesn't mean that they don't exist but implying the majority is high-pitched is debatable.

Gohan could have been high pitched but not as annoying as Colleen made him out to be.
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ABED wrote:Gohan is a child, he should have a high pitched voice.
Not all kids have high pitched vocals and I've not met one that has, sure it doesn't mean that they don't exist but implying the majority is high-pitched is debatable.

Gohan could have been high pitched but not as annoying as Colleen made him out to be.
Yes, all children have high pitched vocals. 4 and 5 year olds have high pitched voices, that's just a fact. I don't even know how this is up for debate.

You find her annoying, but why? Her voice is way less raspy and irritating than Nadolny's Gohan and Goku.
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Post by WittyUsername » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:08 am

Why exactly do you guys refer to Colleen Clinkenbeard by her first name? Do you guys know her personally?

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I'm not a fan of a lot of the smaller characters. Dodoria, Jheese, Oolong(this actor did a much better job in the DB Movie 1 redub), possibly more I'm forgetting.

As for big characters, I don't get why Clinkenbeard had to be 18. You have this vast talent pool of actresses, a lot of which aren't already working on the show because the male-to-female ratio is highly in favor of the boys, and then you take one of the few women who's already playing a lead character, Gohan, and give her a secondary role? Would it have cost that much to get a new person in the booth?

Of course, that complaint means nothing if Clinkenbeard was a decent 18; she can't vary her voice enough or sound realistically that young a woman.
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B wrote:I'm not a fan of a lot of the smaller characters. Dodoria, Jheese, Oolong(this actor did a much better job in the DB Movie 1 redub), possibly more I'm forgetting.

As for big characters, I don't get why Clinkenbeard had to be 18. You have this vast talent pool of actresses, a lot of which aren't already working on the show because the male-to-female ratio is highly in favor of the boys, and then you take one of the few women who's already playing a lead character, Gohan, and give her a secondary role? Would it have cost that much to get a new person in the booth?

Of course, that complaint means nothing if Clinkenbeard was a decent 18; she can't vary her voice enough or sound realistically that young a woman.
Why did they get rid of Meredith McCoy? Personally, I thought she was a perfectly good 18.
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Post by B » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:00 pm

She's arguably worse, to me... What was the last game they used her in? Did the Kai recasts all kick in around Raging Blast?
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