The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kamiccolo9]

If a Saibaman's suicide attack has a similar multiplier to Chiaotzu's, six should be enough to down Nappa.

How so? He is at least more than 3x any Saibaman, and has the endurance to take hits from someone at 8,000. Gohan's Masenko was surely much stronger than the Saibaman's self destruction, and it just stinged Nappa's hand. They can blow themselves up all they want; it's not phazing Nappa.

[RandomGuy96]

Everyone, from Piccolo to Chiaotzu himself, thought that Chiaotzu's explosion would kill someone who owned Tien. That would make it around a x4 multiplier, maybe higher, since Chiaotzu was 610. Six Saibamen should be able to kill 4,000 Nappa going by that.

[Kamiccolo9]

Everyone, from Piccolo to Chiaotzu himself, thought that Chiaotzu's explosion would kill someone who owned Tenshinhan. That would make it around a x4 multiplier, maybe higher, since Chiaotzu was 610. Six Saibamen should be able to kill 4,000 Nappa going by that.

Piccolo and everyone else also didn't know that Vegeta was stronger than Nappa. I wouldn't put too much stock into their comparative power sensing abilities at this point.

[RandomGuy96]

They did know that Nappa was a lot stronger than Tien, and they knew how strong Tien was.

[Saiga]

That's awwwwwwfully presumptuous. Nothing really suggests they can measure the strength of Chaozu's explosion against Tenshinhan, and if they could then couldn't they just measure it against Nappa? Doesn't really work.

Anyway I figure Nappa can just do that thing with his fingers and blow 'em all up.

[Kid Buu]

Even if Saibaman all self-destructed and killed Nappa, it wouldn't be a win for either side, more so a draw.

[TheMightyOzaru]

4 explode on Nappa, 2 live. The Saibamen win.

[Draken]

4 explode on Nappa, 2 live. The Saibamen win.

4 explode on Nappa, 2 live, Nappa lives and kills the other 2 Nappa wins.

[Kamiccolo9]

The Saibamen can't control their ki, so them self destructing would just be them releasing all their energy at once. That's 1,200 apiece. It wouldn't even crack his armor.

[dbzfan7]

Nappa laughs at the pathetic Saibamen and kills them.

[MasterVampire]

So we all know that Bills is crazy strong and on a whole other level compared to everyone else.

But what about Omega Shenron?

How do you think he would hold up against fighting Bills?

He has the strength, techniques and regeneration to put up a good fight but could he beat the God Of Destruction?

[Strife1]

Vegeta as a Ssj when Mecha Frieza came back Vs. Mecha Frieza
Mecha Frieza said he powered up, but it couldn't have been by too much. Vegeta as a Ssj would've been around 125,000,000+ depending on his training

[RandomGuy96]

We don't really have any evidence of how much stronger Vegeta got.

[Rocketman]

Depends if Freeza needs time to pump up to his new 100%. If so, Vegeta wins because he won't give Freeza the chance. If not...I'm still inclined towards Vegeta just because the dude can take some ungodly punishment and might outlast Freeza.

[Kamiccolo9]

Vegeta would have been at around 2,000,000 on Namek, IMO, so he would have been 100,000,000 as a Super Saiyan. Mecha Freeza was stated to be stronger than he was on Namek; I have him around 140,000,000. Vegeta would have had to make pretty decent gains in order to surpass that, and he wasn't using gravity training at the time, so I don't see him making those gains. I think Freeza takes this one.

[Saiga]

Freeza goes to 100% and his extra parts fall off.

Seriously, though, I have no idea how he could go 100% like that now. Maybe he just wouldn't bulk up or whatever.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

While Vegeta did train after namek, I don't think his Super Saiyan would've been strong enough to handle Mecha Freeza. And while it's only in the Tenkaichi series, I see Mecha Freeza being able to reach full-power without the increased muscles from his 100% power.

[TheMightyOzaru]

4 explode on Nappa, 2 live. The Saibamen win.

4 explode on Nappa, 2 live, Nappa lives and kills the other 2 Nappa wins.

The collective energy of 4 exploding Saibamen would be enough to waste Nappa. And yes it is as simple as adding energy because strength in energy lies in how much energy concentration there is.

[Kamiccolo9]

4 explode on Nappa, 2 live. The Saibamen win.

4 explode on Nappa, 2 live, Nappa lives and kills the other 2 Nappa wins.

The collective energy of 4 exploding Saibamen would be enough to waste Nappa. And yes it is as simple as adding energy because strength in energy lies in how much energy concentration there is.

Nappa was taking hits from a guy at over 8,000, and survived a hit from over 16,000. Even if you added up all the Saibamen, that's only 7,200. He would still survive.
I don't think that ki works like that though. If it did, then Tien, Gohan, Krillin, Chiaotzu, and Piccolo could have just blasted Nappa at once and annihilated him.

[hleV]

The collective energy of 4 exploding Saibamen would be enough to waste Nappa. And yes it is as simple as adding energy because strength in energy lies in how much energy concentration there is.

It would be 4 separate explosions with their own power, not 1 combined explosion with added power. If it worked your way, every villain would be defeated by merely combining energy attacks.