Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Shineman » Tue May 21, 2013 2:40 am

Man, I originally thought Dragon Ball Multiverse was something interesting and different compare to all the fan comics about the series. In the end, it turns out just like the rest, but it urks me how egoistical the author is. He likes to ride on GT about having inconsistencies and such, when the comic itself is loaded with these. The specials are pitiful, the artwork is god-awful, and the way he handle the characters is downright horrible. And basically trying to distort a character's personality to do an out of character moment (Vegeta training Gohan) and said "Whether you like it or not" shows the ego is strong within this guy. I've tried to pick up back to the comic, but the manga is so awful that I've literally gave up on it.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue May 21, 2013 3:28 am

It's a shame, really, because this comic had the potential to be sooooooo good. The art is great (usually), the premise is great, there are some pretty good moments, some of the universes really interesting... but Salagir manages to screw it all up with badly placed filler, poor pacing, Cold wank, Broly wank, canon defilement, plotholes, pointless universes, wasted potential (honestly? The reason I started reading this comic was because I heard Dabura, Cooler, and Old Man Krillin were in it, and look how that turned out), extremely weird power scaling, abysmal specials, Mary Sue OCs, poorly translated dialogue, crazy fan theories he tries to force on the universes, and just a poor handling of the story in general. It just makes me wish a more competent writer was behind this, or at the very least that one was reigning in Salagir. He's not an abysmal writer, but he just cannot pace a story and his fanboyism and "fuck canon, I know best" attitude ruins the whole thing.

Semi-related: I just realized that the Cold wank wasn't even needed. Cold's opponents are easily weak enough to be beaten by the canon Cold (though you may have to un-haxx one of them). Like I said earlier, canon Cold would actually be a better match for U3 Bardock than the Salagir-haxxed one. Unless Salagir wants to ignore his own novelization, his own comic, and the manga itself just to haxx Bardock. But I doubt that.

But all that aside... you gotta love Zen Buu! Dude's basically Super Buu + Infinity. He's the only one in the tournament who's a match for Vegetto and is basically the physical embodiment of a whole universe. He's pretty much a god. That's cool. And you gotta love his personality; cocky and diabolical like Super Buu, but with more reserve and class. He's basically the only reason I'm still reading.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Tue May 21, 2013 8:40 am

Yeah, honestly I'm interested in a few characters but from what we've seen I feel that he will fuck them all up. Zen Buu is an obvious one, the Super Namekian can be interesting if handled well and then there is Cell too. Arale and Z have good potential if handled well.

As you can see, all of them need to be handled well, which is something that Salagir has proven to not be able to do.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Tue May 21, 2013 2:04 pm

The rage is strong in this topic. Bro tip: if you don't like a fanfic, just don't spend 600 pages following it and dissing it. No one's forcing you. Things like calling the creator an 'asshole' is way excessive.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue May 21, 2013 2:08 pm

On topic of the last page, am I the only one finding it a bit ironic, the Vegeta/Gohan thing aside, that Gohan's planning to be 'more ruthless' to avoid Babidi trying the same mind-control on him? I'm sure what he actually means is just being ruthless and finishing this fast, but...that...still seems counter-productive and more likely to make him actually controlled.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue May 21, 2013 2:16 pm

I started losing interest in this during that outrageously long Bardock special and it just ended up going down from there. The normal chapters are good imo but like every one else the specials are unbearable especially once Gogeta Jr. left and they went back to releasing one page a week I was damn near done with this. Though I understand the situation at hand changing artist every chapter is going to be hard to deal with, when the quality of the art work is on a roller coaster.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kaboom » Tue May 21, 2013 2:21 pm

Marco Polo wrote:The rage is strong in this topic. Bro tip: if you don't like a fanfic, just don't spend 600 pages following it and dissing it. No one's forcing you. Things like calling the creator an 'asshole' is way excessive.
I wholeheartedly agree. There's criticism, and then there's being needlessly venomous. Let's all take it down a notch, please.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue May 21, 2013 6:05 pm

He is kinda disrespecting Toryiyama's work in the way he does things so there is a reason to get mad at him.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Tue May 21, 2013 6:14 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:He is kinda disrespecting Toryiyama's work in the way he does things so there is a reason to get mad at him.
And dismissing and disrespecting the fans too.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rocketman » Tue May 21, 2013 7:43 pm

There is no shame in calling an asshole an asshole. Refraining from doing so for the sake of "politeness" is why we have so many assholes running around thinking they're King Shit.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Tue May 21, 2013 9:01 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:He is kinda disrespecting Toryiyama's work in the way he does things so there is a reason to get mad at him.
I'm sure Toriyama couldn't care less.

(Toei could care, regardless of the quality, because fanfics are copyright infringement, but whatever.)
DNA wrote:And dismissing and disrespecting the fans too.
So do thousands of other fanfic writers. Have you seen Dragonball Absalon?
Rocketman wrote:There is no shame in calling an asshole an asshole. Refraining from doing so for the sake of "politeness" is why we have so many assholes running around thinking they're King Shit.
It's not even a question of politeness, it's just that it's kinda pointless to spend so much energy insulting someone and commenting every single page of his fanfic when you could just ignore it like thousands other fanfics.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue May 21, 2013 9:34 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:
DNA wrote:And dismissing and disrespecting the fans too.
So do thousands of other fanfic writers. Have you seen Dragonball Absalon?
Rocketman wrote:There is no shame in calling an asshole an asshole. Refraining from doing so for the sake of "politeness" is why we have so many assholes running around thinking they're King Shit.
It's not even a question of politeness, it's just that it's kinda pointless to spend so much energy insulting someone and commenting every single page of his fanfic when you could just ignore it like thousands other fanfics.
What's wrong with Absalon?

Also DBM was good to me to about the time Gogeta Jr left. I guess he was able hold Saligir back somewhat and now that he is gone things are running wild.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue May 21, 2013 9:59 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:He is kinda disrespecting Toryiyama's work in the way he does things so there is a reason to get mad at him.
I'm sure Toriyama couldn't care less.

(Toei could care, regardless of the quality, because fanfics are copyright infringement, but whatever.)
I care. I don't like to see one of my favorite series' being shat upon.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue May 21, 2013 10:13 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:He is kinda disrespecting Toryiyama's work in the way he does things so there is a reason to get mad at him.
I'm sure Toriyama couldn't care less.

(Toei could care, regardless of the quality, because fanfics are copyright infringement, but whatever.)
I care. I don't like to see one of my favorite series' being shat upon.
I'm afraid I'd have to agree with the sentiment that you could just ignore it's existence and stop reading it then, you know...just saying.

I've been pretty unhappy with a lot of the way things have turned out so far too, especially a lot of the recent decisions, but I still find some basic enjoyment in it, so...*shrug* I certainly wouldn't call it 'shat' upon (it's not DBE terribad or anything).
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue May 21, 2013 11:12 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm afraid I'd have to agree with the sentiment that you could just ignore it's existence and stop reading it then, you know...just saying.

I've been pretty unhappy with a lot of the way things have turned out so far too, especially a lot of the recent decisions, but I still find some basic enjoyment in it, so...*shrug* I certainly wouldn't call it 'shat' upon (it's not DBE terribad or anything).
My problem is DBM used to be good. Now it's just a steaming pile.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rocketman » Tue May 21, 2013 11:21 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:DBM used to be good.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh ho...ah ha...*cough* hoo....

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue May 21, 2013 11:28 pm

Opinions opinions :mrgreen: .
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed May 22, 2013 12:45 am

DBM used to be less abysmal.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Wed May 22, 2013 4:09 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:DBM used to be less abysmal.
There ya go.

And to those saying we could just ignore the comic, you could just ignore our comments too if you find them so annoying :)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Wed May 22, 2013 9:07 am

I agree, while they are plenty of things in this special i don`t like/care (King Cold, Broly) there also are great characters i would love to see more backstory, like maniac Kakarotto (And I'm not talking about showing how he massacre people, but his inner struggle, when he had fun time with Kuririn)
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