DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vortex)

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:50 am

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Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Yeah. Funimation or Vortexx should advertise the DVD's as uncut. I wonder if Vortexx is allowed to do that.
I dunno about Vortexx but what about Adult Swim?
I doubt Ault Swim has any rights to DBZ and I doubt they are gonna pay for advertising during its Toonami block(where anime fans are gonna congregate on CN the most) that gets overall less ratings.
I wouldn't think so either, but a year or two ago they played a random episode on April 1st. So, I don't know.

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by matt0044 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:59 am

Saimaroimaru wrote: I doubt Ault Swim has any rights to DBZ and I doubt they are gonna pay for advertising during its Toonami block(where anime fans are gonna congregate on CN the most) that gets overall less ratings.
I've seen Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends advertised on Nick and on April Fools, they showed the episode (from "Z") where Gohan defeats Cell.

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Post by Gonstead » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:23 pm

matt0044 wrote:on April Fools, they showed the episode (from "Z") where Gohan defeats Cell.
That was a special occasion type of thing.

Plus, they would have needed to pay for musical royalties since the Faulconer Productions Soundtrack aired on TV.
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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by matt0044 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:07 pm

Gonstead wrote:
matt0044 wrote:on April Fools, they showed the episode (from "Z") where Gohan defeats Cell.
That was a special occasion type of thing.

Plus, they would have needed to pay for musical royalties since the Faulconer Productions Soundtrack aired on TV.
Did they for that day?

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by Gonstead » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:13 am

matt0044 wrote:
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matt0044 wrote:on April Fools, they showed the episode (from "Z") where Gohan defeats Cell.
That was a special occasion type of thing.

Plus, they would have needed to pay for musical royalties since the Faulconer Productions Soundtrack aired on TV.
Did they for that day?
In the contract with Funimation after the lawsuit, anytime Faulconer Productions music is aired on TV, all music royalties will need to be paid to Mr Faulconer himself. So effectively, yes.

Of course, this does not count for the home releases.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:45 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Yeah. Funimation or Vortexx should advertise the DVD's as uncut. I wonder if Vortexx is allowed to do that.
I don't see why not? I remember there was toy commercials for the 4th Terminator movie a few years back on Nick and Terminator is a R rated franchise. I think marketing uncut DVD's on a kids channel could be fine.
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:33 am

Now it all makes sense!

Behold! The Vortexx' (And Probably Toonzai's) Broadcast Standards and Practices Person!

http://www.sabanbrands.com/staff/phylli ... n-jackson/

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Post by Fennekin » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:48 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Now it all makes sense!

Behold! The Vortexx' (And Probably Toonzai's) Broadcast Standards and Practices Person!

http://www.sabanbrands.com/staff/phylli ... n-jackson/
What are you trying to say? We all knew someone managed the decisions on the edits. Did you think a robot did all the edits or something?

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:24 pm

Fennekin wrote:
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Now it all makes sense!

Behold! The Vortexx' (And Probably Toonzai's) Broadcast Standards and Practices Person!

http://www.sabanbrands.com/staff/phylli ... n-jackson/
What are you trying to say? We all knew someone managed the decisions on the edits. Did you think a robot did all the edits or something?
Yea, man. I don't understand either. Are you trying to say it's because she's an older woman? Who do you think looks over the edits? Teenage anime fans?

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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:57 am

I meant to say Mr Popo's editing made sense since she is african american......I'm terrible.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:40 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I meant to say Mr Popo's editing made sense since she is african american......I'm terrible.
This whole Popo thing doesn't have to be a bad thing. I mean sure, it kinda sucks that the original material is being radically altered. But at the same time, it also sucks that a blatant black stereotype could still be seen on television. As DragonBall fans we're pretty used to Mr. Popo and for some of us, it probably doesn't even click in our brains that his appearance is offensive when he pops up on screen. But, if you've never seen DragonBall and you're a Mom or Dad watching this with your kids, despite your race, it might actually be really shocking.
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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by Fennekin » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:45 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I meant to say Mr Popo's editing made sense since she is african american......I'm terrible.
I don't think you should say stuff like "it all makes sense" because of her ethnicity. I'm sure the decision for these edits go through more people than just her, so you shouldn't assume she made the edit to Mr. Popo personally.

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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:39 pm

It is just her. I mean, she's the Standards and Practices Person, she is the one who decides what goes and what not. Unless you suspect 4kids/Saban is cutting stuff without her being involved, which is quite possible.

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by Fennekin » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:28 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:It is just her. I mean, she's the Standards and Practices Person, she is the one who decides what goes and what not. Unless you suspect 4kids/Saban is cutting stuff without her being involved, which is quite possible.
What I mean is, she probably has a team of advisors that help with deciding on the edits. I doubt she has the time by herself to review every single episode of every show that airs.

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:32 am

Oh that's true. You are right.

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by matt0044 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:56 am

Any new ridiculous edits?

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:35 pm

I wonder how will these final episodes will fare censorship wise...

Oh and for those who dont know Vortexx is airing the Cell Games now.

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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:00 pm

HOLY MOLY! 2-3 days after I told the Vortexx guys to make a more mobile friendly website I can find myself enjoying DBZKai on my Ipad! On My Vortexx.com! That's awesome beyond words!

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Post by The Time Traveller » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:54 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:But, if you've never seen DragonBall and you're a Mom or Dad watching this with your kids, despite your race, it might actually be really shocking.
They can edit Mr. Popo but the design is still the same, the big lips and eyes, it's identical to the Golliwog's face.

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They can give him blue skin, but parents are still going to notice it.

They may as well replace the character or redraw his face.

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vor

Post by goku262002 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:19 pm

So what was wrong with today's episode? The music track man, that and the SFX were really overshadowing the vocal track.

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