Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:14 pm

Really? I knew the Green Lantern was powerful but that powerful? I do know the Flash is stronger than the ladder though. The speed force is broken XD. He can literally vibrate through you and remove a vital organ. GG.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:24 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Really? I knew the Green Lantern was powerful but that powerful? I do know the Flash is stronger than the ladder though. The speed force is broken XD. He can literally vibrate through you and remove a vital organ. GG.
When Hal Jordan was the Spectre, he was essentially omnipotent. And as Parallax he almost restarted the universe. I don't think he's that much stronger than any of the other Green Lanterns now though, although Blackest Night and Brightest Day might have changed that. I'm a little behind on my DC lore (much more of a Marvel fan :P )
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:17 pm

I liked the part where Spider-Man lifted a truck.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:32 pm

Rocketman wrote:I liked the part where Spider-Man lifted a truck.
Much better than Superman's first appearance. He only lifted cars.
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:00 pm

I like how lifting cars are worthy of all those holy shit faces back in the day, and now it's all fucking retarded shit like HE HAS ULTIMATE REALITY POWERS AN HE CAN FLY BY MULTIVERSES AND DESTROY THEM CAUSE HE BEAT UP GOD THAT ONE TIME HERPDERHERPDOO






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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:12 pm

Rocketman wrote:I like how lifting cars are worthy of all those holy shit faces back in the day, and now it's all fucking retarded shit like HE HAS ULTIMATE REALITY POWERS AN HE CAN FLY BY MULTIVERSES AND DESTROY THEM CAUSE HE BEAT UP GOD THAT ONE TIME HERPDERHERPDOO






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In my opinion, the only comic book writer who could ever pull off an omnipotent character was Jim Starlin. Infinity Gauntlet is my favorite to this day, and it shows what happens when all the superheroes gang up on God. They get slaughtered.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:23 pm

I don't have a problem with the Chaos Emeralds or the Chaos Force myself. The Chaos Force basically what reality is composed of and whomever has the greatest control can control reality on a Multiversal scale. The Chaos Emeralds are the keys to it's power. Yeah it's a little strange that such a force exists in Sonic but it makes sense in the context of the Sonic Multiverse
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:16 am

Superman has been stated as the most power being on Earth at least since the early 2000's.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:20 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:Superman has been stated as the most power being on Earth at least since the early 2000's.
Whoever stated that was wrong.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:28 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:Superman has been stated as the most power being on Earth at least since the early 2000's.
The Flash could kill Superman in a millisecond.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:21 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:Superman has been stated as the most power being on Earth at least since the early 2000's.
Whoever stated that was wrong.
DC said it.

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miguelnuva1 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:Superman has been stated as the most power being on Earth at least since the early 2000's.
Whoever stated that was wrong.
DC said it.
Strongest/most powerful gets used a bit to much in a lot of fictions. Was Freeza really the strongest in the Universe before Goku became a Super Saiyan? No, there was stronger, especially if you count everything outside the manga. Is Magneto the strongest mutant in Marvel? They sure say he is a lot but really he isn't even close. And depending on what versions we're talking about there are some pretty powerful people living on Earth in DC. Like I think they called Superman the strongest force on Earth a couple of times in the Justice League/Justice League Unlimited cartoons but Amazo flat out stomped him (and basically every other good guy on Earth) and Doctor Fate is a supreme magic user so I would think he could cause some problems (I'm sure some versions of him could definitely beat Superman).

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:02 am

... This topic makes me really sad that we don't have an off-topic section on this forum... :(
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:11 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:
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miguelnuva1 wrote:Superman has been stated as the most power being on Earth at least since the early 2000's.
Whoever stated that was wrong.
DC said it.
Who at DC? No one at DC has the authority to say anything like that and make it true for the entire DC universe. This isn't like Dragonball, where there is only one writer. Superman's writer saying that he is the most powerful on Earth means nothing. Especially when, for the first 5 years of the 2000's you had omnipotent Hal Jordan walking around, Captain Marvel and the Martian Manhunter have both been stated, by Superman, to be more powerful than he is, Black Adam, Necron, Dr. Fate, Zatanna, Doomsday,....there are numerous beings with power surpassing Superman's.
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Post by TonyTheTiger » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:33 pm

You gotta remember that DC and Marvel don't operate on the same linear power scale that Dragon Ball does. "X > Y" has a lot less significance because so many things are situational and dependent on who is actually involved. If you have an ordinary human who's sole power is a spell that turns someone into a pomeranian then despite Superman being like a bazillion times stronger he'll probably "lose" in that initial confrontation. So when someone says Superman is the most powerful person on Earth you have to ask what they're actually measuring. There are certain categories in which Superman does likely qualify as most powerful. But being "most powerful" doesn't equate to "can win any confrontation with any person on Earth every single time."

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:I don't have a problem with the Chaos Emeralds or the Chaos Force myself. The Chaos Force basically what reality is composed of and whomever has the greatest control can control reality on a Multiversal scale. The Chaos Emeralds are the keys to it's power.
That's exactly the stupid that I'm talking about.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:03 pm

Rocketman wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:I don't have a problem with the Chaos Emeralds or the Chaos Force myself. The Chaos Force basically what reality is composed of and whomever has the greatest control can control reality on a Multiversal scale. The Chaos Emeralds are the keys to it's power.
That's exactly the stupid that I'm talking about.
Why? The Chaos Force is what reality is comprised of in Sonic's multiverse. Naturally someone with the ability to control that force can manipulate reality as he sees fit. Sonic isn't even trying to be overpowered, they are just being more or less realistic with the ability to control what what comprises reality. And unlike a lot of these characters, he doesn't pull some new ability or super power out of his ass. The ability to control reality was set up toward the beginning of the comic.
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