Nail And The Ginyu Force
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I think it'd be safe to assume that any damage Recoome suffered, even if appearing severe, was mostly superficial and hardly affected his power at all.
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Probably. But he still didn't tank Vegeta's attacks completely like a person enormously stronger would have. I kinda like the 37,000 PL proposed earlier. But 40-45,000 works too.Kaboom wrote:I think it'd be safe to assume that any damage Recoome suffered, even if appearing severe, was mostly superficial and hardly affected his power at all.
Then again, I put practically no stock in consistent power level gaps determining fights anyway, so what do I know?
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Krillin broke his teeth, I guess he must be close to himKamiccolo9 wrote:Are you not seeing the cuts, bruises, lacerations, blood, missing hair, missing teeth, busted armor, torn clothing, and general, all-around, beat-up-ness? Just because one attack may not have had much effect doesn't mean that Recoome took no damage. Especially when you, you know, look at him.Undertaker wrote: Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P12.4
Context: Vegeta attacked Recoom all out, but it had little effect.
Gohan: “H-he hardly took any damage…”
What damage?
Just because he had those traits doesn't mean anything
He got all of this when Vegeta used his amplified blast and Reccome is stated to take no damage
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Oh, he took plenty of damage to his physical body. Do the countless amounts of injures to his body mean nothing to you? Also, hardly is still some damage. I feel 40,000 is too big a difference. 37,000 feels about right since I feel Vegeta's Final Crash was 36,000. 36,000 works too for RG96's sake. Damage equal to the opponents BP doesn't do a lot of, if any, damage. Freeza is a good example of this.Undertaker wrote:What damage?
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It was Reacoom's Eraser Gun that destroyed his teeth, Kuririn just closed his mouth.Undertaker wrote:Krillin broke his teeth, I guess he must be close to him
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I still don't know how that didn't pop his head off like a pez dispenser.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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16 said Cell took hardly any damage from Piccolo's blast so I guess he was damaged?TheMightyOzaru wrote:Oh, he took plenty of damage to his physical body. Do the countless amounts of injures to his body mean nothing to you? Also, hardly is still some damage. I feel 40,000 is too big a difference. 37,000 feels about right since I feel Vegeta's Final Crash was 36,000. 36,000 works too for RG96's sake. Damage equal to the opponents BP doesn't do a lot of, if any, damage. Freeza is a good example of this.Undertaker wrote:What damage?
Gohan states he didn't take damage. If the attack was close to his power so he would had been damaged
the "hardly" thing is to show that besides his shape, he didn't get weaker or really damaged
I have Reccome=45,000
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No, Krillin hit him so Reccome closed his mouth and his teeth got brokenDBZGTKOSDH wrote:It was Reacoom's Eraser Gun that destroyed his teeth, Kuririn just closed his mouth.Undertaker wrote:Krillin broke his teeth, I guess he must be close to him
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Because of the giant laser he was shooting from inside his mouth!Undertaker wrote:No, Krillin hit him so Reccome closed his mouth and his teeth got brokenDBZGTKOSDH wrote:It was Reacoom's Eraser Gun that destroyed his teeth, Kuririn just closed his mouth.Undertaker wrote:Krillin broke his teeth, I guess he must be close to him
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Because of the giant laser he was shooting from inside his mouth![/quote]Kamiccolo9 wrote:No, Krillin hit him so Reccome closed his mouth and his teeth got brokenUndertaker wrote:It was Reacoom's Eraser Gun that destroyed his teeth, Kuririn just closed his mouth.Undertaker wrote:Krillin broke his teeth, I guess he must be close to him
Reccome is still at least at 40,000
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You can't prove it. So stop stating it as fact.
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What Draken said.
It's possible that Recoome could be as low as 30,001
It's possible that he could be as high as 59,999 (Exaggerations)
I honestly don't see how he has to be anything though. I personally have Jeice at 43,000. Burter at 42,000. Recoome at 40,000.
His power does not have to be definitely at least 40,000 or it's too low, and 40,000 isn't too high. Just agree to disagree. Instead of having endless power level debates, it'd be better to assume they're around the same strength and factor in their skills and feats instead of just their "power levels"
As we see in the manga Power isn't the only thing that factors into a fight. We know that Vegeta did damage to Recoome, Recoome is a tank and can dish out what he can give, and Vegeta, not completely. got his ass kicked.
It's possible that Recoome could be as low as 30,001
It's possible that he could be as high as 59,999 (Exaggerations)
I honestly don't see how he has to be anything though. I personally have Jeice at 43,000. Burter at 42,000. Recoome at 40,000.
His power does not have to be definitely at least 40,000 or it's too low, and 40,000 isn't too high. Just agree to disagree. Instead of having endless power level debates, it'd be better to assume they're around the same strength and factor in their skills and feats instead of just their "power levels"
As we see in the manga Power isn't the only thing that factors into a fight. We know that Vegeta did damage to Recoome, Recoome is a tank and can dish out what he can give, and Vegeta, not completely. got his ass kicked.
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What's the point of a forum then? As long as you bring in new information and don't flaunt around you opinion.Strife1 wrote: Just agree to disagree. Instead of having endless power level debates.
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It not affecting his power just proves that Recoome is a tank who can take some hits. But we clearly saw that Recoome didn't have the degree of superiority over Vegeta that would let him tank and one-shot Vegeta. Again, we've SEEN what it looks like when someone gets attacked by someone way weaker than them; they get hit and aren't even phased a bit. Sometimes they don't even budge from direct hits to the face. They then proceed to beat their enemy in one hit.Kaboom wrote:I think it'd be safe to assume that any damage Recoome suffered, even if appearing severe, was mostly superficial and hardly affected his power at all.
This was clearly not one of the most cases. He budged from all of Vegeta's hits, was hurt by them, and clearly took damage- look at his body. Recoome was just tough. He even survived his own amplified attack going off in his mouth. Is it so hard to believe that someone did something that wasn't determined by an arbitrary number, and instead just didn't feel pain and always was able to get up and keep going in spite of what should be grevious injuries?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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You're really preaching to the choir with that one.RandomGuy96 wrote:Is it so hard to believe that someone did something that wasn't determined by an arbitrary number, and instead just didn't feel pain and always was able to get up and keep going in spite of what should be grevious injuries?
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He easily beat Vegeta and took no real damage. You can't prove he is at 37,000. That's too low. Vegeta says he is a baby next to Reccome. Reccome was able to survive his amplified blast and never took a serious damage. He was even laughing.Draken wrote:You can't prove it. So stop stating it as fact.
40,000 is implied IMO
I never said it's a fact
It makes sense since they should be in the middle between 30,000 to 60,000
60,000 >> 40,000+ >> 30,000
The gap between Reccome and Vegeta should be at least the same like the gap between Goku and Vegeta in the Saiyan Arc when Goku used Kaioken X3
Reccome never even took Vegeta seriously. He beat him even easier than Zarbon did so again 40,000 makes sense
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Undertaker wrote: I never said it's a fact
Undertaker wrote: The members should be in the middl between 30,000 to 60,000 ehich is at least 40,000
Undertaker wrote: Because your post makes no sense
How can he be 35,000 when Vegeta was 30,000? 40,000 is at least logical
Edit: What Kaboom said
Undertaker wrote: Reccome easily beat Vegeta who was 30,000 so he must be at least 40,000
And my personal favorite...Undertaker wrote: They are at least at 40,000
I have them at 45,000
Reccome is still at least at 40,000[/quote]Kamiccolo9 wrote:Because of the giant laser he was shooting from inside his mouth!Undertaker wrote:No, Krillin hit him so Reccome closed his mouth and his teeth got brokenRandomGuy96 wrote: It was Reacoom's Eraser Gun that destroyed his teeth, Kuririn just closed his mouth.
Sure. You never said it as a fact.
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... No. He was firing his Eraser Gun. When Krilling made his close his mouth, the blast hit his own teeth, breaking them.Undertaker wrote:No, Krillin hit him so Reccome closed his mouth and his teeth got brokenDBZGTKOSDH wrote:It was Reacoom's Eraser Gun that destroyed his teeth, Kuririn just closed his mouth.Undertaker wrote:Krillin broke his teeth, I guess he must be close to him
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Undertaker wrote: I never said it's a fact
Undertaker wrote: The members should be in the middl between 30,000 to 60,000 ehich is at least 40,000
Undertaker wrote: Because your post makes no sense
How can he be 35,000 when Vegeta was 30,000? 40,000 is at least logical
Edit: What Kaboom said
Undertaker wrote: Reccome easily beat Vegeta who was 30,000 so he must be at least 40,000
And my personal favorite...Undertaker wrote: They are at least at 40,000
I have them at 45,000
Reccome is still at least at 40,000[/quote]Kamiccolo9 wrote:Because of the giant laser he was shooting from inside his mouth!Undertaker wrote:No, Krillin hit him so Reccome closed his mouth and his teeth got brokenRandomGuy96 wrote: It was Reacoom's Eraser Gun that destroyed his teeth, Kuririn just closed his mouth.
Sure. You never said it as a fact. [/quote]
It's a fact he was far ahead of Vegeta so 40,000 is logical but never said it was a fact
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You do realize that just because you're not using the words "it's a fact," it doesn't mean that you aren't stating your views as facts.
What is a fact is that numerous people have asked you to stop doing this.
What is a fact is that numerous people have asked you to stop doing this.
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