"DBZ: Battle of Z" (360/PS3/Vita) On-Going Discussion Thread

[kei17]

The game looks nice so far, but I don't like those too big feet. They weren't this big in Spike's games, were they?

[Big Momma]

You'll be shocked. People complain that Final Bout graphics suck or that old school games can't be played cause of graphics.

A little off-topic, FB had terrible graphics and was pretty much a bad game overall...yet I somehow managed to get hours of fun from it still...

[vince90x]

Final Fantasy VII has shitty graphics and gameplay but its still one of the best games ever... This game has good graphics BUT they could be better. For this game you already know the story and I doubt they'll add anything to it worth while. The GAMEPLAY which seems to be most important thing to you guys still looks choppy as fuck. So the graphics aren't top notch, we know the story won't be top notch, and the gameplay is definitely not top notch.

[TheGmGoken]

Final Fantasy VII has shitty graphics and gameplay but its still one of the best games ever... This game has good graphics BUT they could be better. For this game you already know the story and I doubt they'll add anything to it worth while. The GAMEPLAY which seems to be most important thing to you guys still looks choppy as fuck. So the graphics aren't top notch, we know the story won't be top notch, and the gameplay is definitely not top notch.

That's an explanation of a opinion I can respect. You broke it down.

[Kamiccolo9]

Final Fantasy VII has shitty graphics and gameplay but its still one of the best games ever... This game has good graphics BUT they could be better. For this game you already know the story and I doubt they'll add anything to it worth while. The GAMEPLAY which seems to be most important thing to you guys still looks choppy as fuck. So the graphics aren't top notch, we know the story won't be top notch, and the gameplay is definitely not top notch.

I don't see how a game can have "shitty gameplay" and still be "one of the best games ever." I feel like you typed that wrong. FFVII's gameplay is just fine, and is definitely better than its sequel's.
All we've seen about the gameplay is a brief trailer, so no, you don't know it will suck.
Graphical quality depends on the viewer, so you can't issue a blanket order that it sucks.
And we know nothing about the story, other than that it may differ a bit from the original. So you can't say that it sucks.

Honestly, is it that hard to wait until the game comes out before people start bashing it? Or at least a demo?

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

Final Fantasy VII has shitty graphics and gameplay but its still one of the best games ever... This game has good graphics BUT they could be better. For this game you already know the story and I doubt they'll add anything to it worth while. The GAMEPLAY which seems to be most important thing to you guys still looks choppy as fuck. So the graphics aren't top notch, we know the story won't be top notch, and the gameplay is definitely not top notch.

Ok, I've gone back and re-watched the gameplay demonstration at the anime expo and I honestly can't find anything that stands out as choppy gameplay. Where are people getting this impression because I just don't see it.

[TheGmGoken]

Honestly, is it that hard to wait until the game comes out before people start bashing it? Or at least a demo?

Kamiccolo9 you should know this by now. People complain just to complain. Even if there is no facts to it. Yo do it, I do it, and everyone does it lol. On a serious note we saw like what 12 seconds of gameplay. I remember people saying Ultimate Tenkaichi
was going to be epic and the best DBZ EVER. This was because of the pictures and the EXPO. Then....it came out.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess .

This just reeks of you being desperate.

Out of context, sure. But if you read his maybe not.

[Kamiccolo9]

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess .

This just reeks of you being desperate.

Out of context, sure. But if you read his maybe not.

And did you read his reply? Where he said that he's not a native English speaker? I think that warrants at least an acknowledgement, if not an apology.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

whether or not you care about graphics, that just means you like the old games as do I. Has nothing to do with anything.

You'll be shocked. People complain that Final Bout graphics suck or that old school games can't be played cause of graphics.

Who the hell said anything about anime visuals and animations in the show? That was due to technical limitations of its time and second, that has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

Animations quality is the Equivalent to Video games graphics. If a 2013 anime looks like a 90's anime. It would be the same issue.

Now if a fanmade mod can do this, what excuse is there that Namco can't? It's sad really.

Mods doesn't equal coding. If that's the case then Tenkaichi3, Budokai 1, and Budokai 3 would have character creator.

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess however I am impressed I must say at how you were able to write so much and say absolutely nothing.

Don't be a jackass. NOT EVERYONE FIRST LANGUAGE IS ENGLISH so that's not an insult. I did make points. You just ruled them out to fit your opinion. If you want more examples of how graphics doesn't mean shit. Look at Minecraft, Dc Universe Online, Rage, Ghost Recon, and hell even some of the COD games.

This just reeks of you being desperate.

Quite common on the internet. If someone disagree with you. Mock their grammar not knowing who they are and what language they speak.

He's nothing but a troll disagreeing just to disagree

No. I'm speaking my opinion. How am I a troll for that?

Those people don't know what they're missing. Those PS1 games are really cool.

I am thinking that you are saying that if a present day show looked like it had the same quality of what was made in the 90s then people would have an issue with that? Well yes, that is why I have an issue with these present day graphics looking like they came from BT3 with som RB inspiration thrown in.

I don't understand what you meant by a mod doesn't equal coding.
The mod I am talking about requires a ton it's a WIP for about a decade. It's takes a lot of work to turn Half Life 1 into something that could rival Raging Blast in terms of graphics.

What do you mean by the old games would have character creator? I am confused.

I don't think he's a troll, I just think he along with the rest of the 5-7 people on this discussion board are only focusing on the positives and there aren't many. They don't want to hear about the negatives. I'm getting virtually jumped over here for having a different opinion. XD

I think graphics matter (oh no!)
I think the animations are choppy
I would rather not have forced gameplay aspects that ruin the story
The character models remind me of older games
I think the gameplay looks strange.

Sue me.

[TheGmGoken]

I am thinking that you are saying that if a present day show looked like it had the same quality of what was made in the 90s then people would have an issue with that? Well yes, that is why I have an issue with these present day graphics looking like they came from BT3 with som RB inspiration thrown in.

Really? So if the gamplay is great and the graphic is average or below average you will have an issue? If an anime have the best story in history but the animation is dated you would have an issue? I respect your opinion but for reals?

I don't understand what you meant by a mod doesn't equal coding.
The mod I am talking about requires a ton it's a WIP for about a decade. It's takes a lot of work to turn Half Life 1 into something that could rival Raging Blast in terms of graphics. What do you mean by the old games would have character creator? I am confused.

People mod Budokai 1, Budokai 3, and Tenkaichi 3 to make their own characters. You didn't know that? Similar to how Super DBZ you can change the outfit. People mod the games to change the character appearances. That what I meant.

I don't think he's a troll, I just think he along with the rest of the 5-7 people on this discussion board are only focusing on the positives and there aren't many.

You should know that I don't FOLLOW ANYONE. It's my opinion I go by. I've also complained about the game negatives as well. I just also say the positives. I say both. So that's where you're wrong.

I'm getting virtually jumped over here for having a different opinion. XD

I think graphics matter (oh no!)
I think the animations are choppy
I would rather not have forced gameplay aspects that ruin the story
The character models remind me of older games
I think the gameplay looks strange.

Sue me.

No you're not. You're virtually getting "jumped" by the way you're speaking your opinion. The way you're wording your opinion is like you saying it's fact and no one is right but people who agree with you. You were also being an asshole in your post.

Edit: You could say sorry for being a jackass about grammar(Common Internet insult) when I'm not a native speaker.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

Final Fantasy VII has shitty graphics and gameplay but its still one of the best games ever... This game has good graphics BUT they could be better. For this game you already know the story and I doubt they'll add anything to it worth while. The GAMEPLAY which seems to be most important thing to you guys still looks choppy as fuck. So the graphics aren't top notch, we know the story won't be top notch, and the gameplay is definitely not top notch.

Literally exactly what I said earlier but in a longer post. Story is screwed over to force new gameplay, graphics suck, no way around that. The gameplay is choppy (I even used this word to describe it) animation quality is low. Example, Gokus flying is stiff as FUCK. He's so still it looks ridiculous. I guess it just takes another person to write down what you said then they suddenly understand. I don't get these people sometimes XD.

[TheGmGoken]

I guess it just takes another person to write down what you said then they suddenly understand.

He words it much better and more respectable.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

I am thinking that you are saying that if a present day show looked like it had the same quality of what was made in the 90s then people would have an issue with that? Well yes, that is why I have an issue with these present day graphics looking like they came from BT3 with som RB inspiration thrown in.

Really? So if the gamplay is great and the graphic is average or below average you will have an issue? If an anime have the best story in history but the animation is dated you would have an issue? I respect your opinion but for reals?

I don't understand what you meant by a mod doesn't equal coding.
The mod I am talking about requires a ton it's a WIP for about a decade. It's takes a lot of work to turn Half Life 1 into something that could rival Raging Blast in terms of graphics. What do you mean by the old games would have character creator? I am confused.

People mod Budokai 1, Budokai 3, and Tenkaichi 3 to make their own characters. You didn't know that? Similar to how Super DBZ you can change the outfit. People mod the games to change the character appearances. That what I meant.

I don't think he's a troll, I just think he along with the rest of the 5-7 people on this discussion board are only focusing on the positives and there aren't many.

You should know that I don't FOLLOW ANYONE. It's my opinion I go by. I've also complained about the game negatives as well. I just also say the positives. I say both. So that's where you're wrong.

I'm getting virtually jumped over here for having a different opinion. XD

I think graphics matter (oh no!)
I think the animations are choppy
I would rather not have forced gameplay aspects that ruin the story
The character models remind me of older games
I think the gameplay looks strange.

Sue me.

No you're not. You're virtually getting "jumped" by the way you're speaking your opinion. The way you're wording your opinion is like you saying it's fact and no one is right but people who agree with you. You were also being an asshole in your post.

If the gameplay is great, then it's a great game. We went over this. We play PS1 era games because gameplay is EPIC not because the graphics weren't. I mean you guys are acting like there absolutely NOTHING wrong with the game graphically speaking so I had to say that isn't the case. Certainly not a deal breaker on the game.

The kind of mod I am talking about is not a simplistic mod like a color change of clothes or a new character, it's essentially an entirely new game built up from a game engine made in the 90s so yeah there was a TON of coding. A ton. And I was saying how is it that this mod looks better than the newly released game, it's sad but true ya know?

I wasn't stating anything as fact, you were the only person who stated I was which I kind of dont know how that's possible. Stating opinions like they are facts would be like this: I hate this movie so and it got one star two thumbs down. That could be an opinion but in reality it got five stars two thumbs up. Not a very good example lol but whatever. I wasn't being an asshole, all I said was something stupid about your grammar and in context, it was only because you made a comment about the way I typed my opinion which was also rude.

But seriously, the mod. Do you understand what I meant now? The mod is like an all new game and it looks great. It is 3rd person large maps exactly like this game. You can fly around, there are team deathmatches, or battle royale just like this game but the mod actually looks stunning and it's made by fans. That's why I am so affected by these graphics. If fans can make something this incredible, professionals should be able to do ten times better not ten times worse.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

I guess it just takes another person to write down what you said then they suddenly understand.

He words it much better and more respectable.

My longer post wasn't disrespectful. None of my posts were disrespectful. All I did was comment on grammar and in context, it was called for anyways. I made the same points and no one cared. Then this guy comes along and writes down what I said and you suddenly see what I mean? What.

[TheGmGoken]

We play PS1 era games because gameplay is EPIC not because the graphics weren't.

Yet you complain about the graphics of this game.

I mean you guys are acting like there absolutely NOTHING wrong with the game graphically speaking so I had to say that isn't the case. Certainly not a deal breaker on the game.

By you guys are you including me? Did my last post not say I spoke about both pos and negs of the game. My negatives lasted MUCH longer than the positives. Which was only ONE thing. Plus "you guys" implies the entire topic.

The kind of mod I am talking about is not a simplistic mod like a color change of clothes or a new character, it's essentially an entirely new game built up from a game engine made in the 90s so yeah there was a TON of coding. A ton. And I was saying how is it that this mod looks better than the newly released game, it's sad but true ya know?

I DIDN"T know which type of mod you was talking about. I thought you meant the most popular type of mos. My mistake. You should have been more specific at first.

I wasn't stating anything as fact, you were the only person who stated I was which I kind of dont know how that's possible.

You kinda were. The way it was worded. Maybe not your intentions. Plus this kinda was worded as fact.

Stop fronting, graphics do matter and everyone knows it.

I wasn't being an asshole, all I said was something stupid about your grammar and in context, it was only because you made a comment about the way I typed my opinion which was also rude.

Grammar insults in a discussion is being a jackass. Me saying you're stating opinions as facts is not rude. If I said your opinion doesn't matter then that's rude.

But seriously, the mod. Do you understand what I meant now? The mod is like an all new game and it looks great. It is 3rd person large maps exactly like this game. You can fly around, there are team deathmatches, or battle totaled just like this game but the mod actually looks stunning and it's made by fans. That's why I am so affected by these graphics. If fans can make something this incredible, professionals should be able to do ten times better not ten times worse.

I know about the game and didn't find it all that good. The graphics wasn't all that to talk about either. Just cause you're professional doesn't make you better than non professionals. I've seen many fan art better than the professional art. Hell some professional singers can't sing wortha damn and yet they're out singed by fans. Professional just mean official or popular IMO. Not the quality.

it was called for anyways.

Not really.

Then this guy comes along and writes down what I said and you suddenly see what I mean? What.

See what you mean? I seen what he meant. He explained it better.

My longer post wasn't disrespectful. None of my posts were disrespectful.

Everyone is blindly trying so hard to defend the game they don't even want to address it.

Stop fronting, graphics do matter and everyone knows it.

that's the excuse for why it looks like shit

how bad it looks and blah blah blah.

I'm sick of their bullshit.

that has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

Moving on...it's 2013.

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess however I am impressed I must say at how you were able to write so much and say absolutely nothing.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

I guess it just takes another person to write down what you said then they suddenly understand.

He words it much better and more respectable.

Okay dude I had to do some digging but I found it. I found my imgur album of esf screenshots (the mod I was talking about). Look at this beauty: http://keeperofshadows.imgur.com/eaths_ ... creenshots prepare to be amazed also take note it has not yet been released.

[TheGmGoken]

I guess it just takes another person to write down what you said then they suddenly understand.

He words it much better and more respectable.

Okay dude I had to do some digging but I found it. I found my imgur album of esf screenshots (the mod I was talking about). Look at this beauty: http://keeperofshadows.imgur.com/eaths_ ... creenshots prepare to be amazed also take note it has not yet been released.

Those what the perfect graphics you were talking about? The stages and area look great I admit. The character models?






They don't even look all that good to be honest. BoZ have them beat. These just look shiny and more bright. Kinda like INFINITE WORLD cut scenes. Hell some of them AT BEST look similar to BOZ. Some worst and some of them are just below BOZ graphics. This is coming from a long time fan of ESF and someone who doesn't like BOZ so far with the information we got.

[JeffJarrett]

"shiny", "bright", etc. really the character models aren't related to the colors and special light effects the developers chose.
We're talking about the shapes and resemblace to the actual characters. And Battle of Z's characters aren't great at all.

[TheGmGoken]

"shiny", "bright", etc. really the character models aren't related to the colors and special light effects the developers chose.
We're talking about the shapes and resemblace to the actual characters. And Battle of Z's characters aren't great at all.

I didn't say BOZ was good at all. In fact I've been complaining about them. Calling them awkward looking. Stiff. Ugly. I still don't like ESF models either. Is that so bad?