Draken wrote:Wait how did he have a little trouble with Freeza but now he's so powerful in different aspects he rivals Buu and Vegetto?
Namekian bullshit training gains
They are making a comeback.
I don't have much of a problem with this at the moment. Namekian fusions I think brings better gains than absorption, but to be Zen boo level after he absorbed anyone in his universe with a significant power seems far fetched. But time will tell if that changes.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
TheGmGoken wrote:I wonder. Since Zen Boo ate everyone in the universe. What in the hell did he do?
He absorbed everyone with a significant power or ability. That's what Salagir said. He didn't absorb everything.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
TheGmGoken wrote:I wonder. Since Zen Boo ate everyone in the universe. What in the hell did he do?
He absorbed everyone with a significant power or ability. That's what Salagir said. He didn't absorb everything.
Oh. Then...what does he DO!? He toys with the weak all day? That must be boring. He accidentally kills some. Making even more boring. Seriously. I'll hate to be Zen Boo if I wasn't in this Tourney. Something tells me this is the most fun Zen Boo had since Boo Arc
TheGmGoken wrote:I wonder. Since Zen Boo ate everyone in the universe. What in the hell did he do?
He absorbed everyone with a significant power or ability. That's what Salagir said. He didn't absorb everything.
Oh. Then...what does he DO!? He toys with the weak all day? That must be boring. He accidentally kills some. Making even more boring. Seriously. I'll hate to be Zen Boo if I wasn't in this Tourney. Something tells me this is the most fun Zen Boo had since Boo Arc
I say that to every villain who wants to destroy everything. What do you do next. Life would suck.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Buu can teleport anywhere in the universe, has knowledge of the planets, and can turn anything into anything. I doubt he's getting bored any time soon; if worst comes to worst he can just use multiform to fight himself.
The Monkey King wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
RandomGuy96 wrote:Buu can teleport anywhere in the universe, has knowledge of the planets, and can turn anything into anything. I doubt he's getting bored any time soon; if worst comes to worst he can just use multiform to fight himself.
Zen Boo vs Zen Boo would be epic. But what if the original Zen Boo dies? .
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Hmm...what he did to Freeza though was more of a freezing-in-place thing, he paralyzed him somehow. What he's doing to Boo is a little different.
That said though, if it's just chalked up to 'psychic powers', then that would cover up both effects nicely enough I suppose. Either way, I had completely forgotten about him pulling that on Freeza back in his universe.
Yeah!!! And Gast also beat the Buu of his universe, so he knows how to deal with the absorbing goo!
Nice page. I like how Gast is easily overpowering Buu. I thought it would be cool if Gast and Buu fought and got themselves both killed, but this is cool too.
Ah, and in this scene, my version of U7 Gohan would have fought off Buu's goo and attempted to fight Buu himself, only to fail!
Hi I'm Skar! I was looking at the referring sites thing on my blog and one of the links brought me here! I'm a big fan of Kanzenshuu and DBM so seeing them come together is pretty cool.
Skar wrote:Hi I'm Skar! I was looking at the referring sites thing on my blog and one of the links brought me here! I'm a big fan of Kanzenshuu and DBM so seeing them come together is pretty cool.
Welcome Skar. It's good to have someone who does funny comics with pretty good writing.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:Welcome Skar. It's good to have someone who does funny comics with pretty good writing.
Thanks that means a lot =D! It's always nice to receive feedback. Critisism is always welcome too since it helps me improve and whatnot. So what does everyone think of these recent turn of events? It's nice to see Gast finally getting involved.
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