BOG inconsistencies/changes

[dbzfan7]

This is strictly slight alterations on problems we may have with the logic the movie follows. NO complete re-writes.

Mine is No Shoenen boost for Vegeta, just give him SSJ3 if he is going to get any kind of boost

[TheGmGoken]

Just get rid of Vegeta random ass rage boast. HOW DARE YOU HIT MY BULMA! ROWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR! He should had just went SSSJ3 had an epic speech and get some hits on Birsu. Then revert due to SSJ3 strain and Birsu just mocks him. Have GOhan Mystic for the ENTIRE movie. Have Tarble instead of a fucking fetus. Get rid of King Kai planet and just have the fight in otherworld.

Don't know if this a entire re-write or not but I would get rid of the whole 12 other universes thing. To me that was pointless.

[KentalSSJ6]

I think Goku got rid of King Kai's planet when he first fought Bills

[TheGmGoken]

I think Goku got rid of King Kai's planet when he first fought Bills

Damn. That is still by far one the best thing that happen in DBZ.

Also I'll like to add something I would change. The character designs. Goten and Trunks are WAAAAY to short. They look shorter than they did in DBZ anime series. Like damn if this takes place after Tarble they should at least GREW. Makes me think we're lucky we didn't see Gohan during the 7 year time skip. Also Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha all look like they're teenagers. Especially Yamcha and Krillin. Though I'll say that I do like Krillin's hair cut in the movie.

[Marco Polo]

Yeah I agree about Goten and Trunks.

Also Yamcha should have grey hair as in the JSAT special:

[Kaboom]

I think I prefer Vegeta's rage boost power-up over giving him Super Saiyan 3. For one, Vegeta is normally already on-par with Goku (at equivalent tranformations anyway), and we already saw that Super Saiyan 3 Goku was helpless against Beers. So not only would Vegeta somehow doing what he did with Super Saiyan 3 thus not make any internal sense, but it'd also be repetitive. Having Vegeta get majorly pissed off over Bulma being hurt is not only different, but also a nice little character moment for Vegeta.

Other people might claim that the "Boo-arc base Goku can't beat Freeza" thing is a so-called inconsistency, but it's really not. That's always been something that was unclear and debated, and all the movie did was finally clarify it.

Same with Bra's age. We had conflicting info on that, too, but now that something's actually shown Pan on her way but Bra nowhere in sight, it seems that's settled too.

The only thing I really wish was explained is when and how Kaio got his planetoid back. That and how Pilaf gets his accidental youthicizing undone, but that's not really important unless Toei's going to pretend GT still happens somewhere down the line.

[TheGmGoken]

So not only would Vegeta somehow doing what he did with Super Saiyan 3 thus not make any internal sense, but it'd also be repetitive.

Bisu could easily just allow Vegeta to hit him.

[Kakarot88]

Other people might claim that the "Boo-arc base Goku can't beat Freeza" thing is a so-called inconsistency, but it's really not. That's always been something that was unclear and debated, and all the movie did was finally clarify it.

Where does the movie "clarify" it?

It could just as easily (and seems to me to be more likely) that Goku is suppressing his Ki cuz he fights in bursts, etc. when Beerus lands hence why Beerus thinks he is weak...kind of like how scouters are useless.

If you include GT then Goku being in base form "more powerful than Majion Boo" throws all kinds of kinks into everything lol and according to that Toriyama exhibit which made a timeline including Coola and Garlic Junior it makes me go... ...but seriously where is that "clarified"?

[dbzfan7]

Birus says Goku probably couldn't beat Freeza as he is now and Goku then mentions Super Saiyan. There is no reason for these lines of dialogue if Goku was suppressed.

[RandomGuy96]

Or he could catch him off guard. Which is basically what he did.

Yeah... I don't think I can comment on this thread for changes without it turning into a total rewrite. From what I've heard, there are very things I WOULDN'T change.

[dbzfan7]

Or he could catch him off guard. Which is basically what he did.

Yeah... I don't think I can comment on this thread for changes without it turning into a total rewrite. From what I've heard, there are very things I WOULDN'T change.

As long as the basis is the same it's fine. You can change how SSJG works, how it was formed, etc. Backstory. The works.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Honestly, the only thing I would change would be Super Saiyan God. I'm more or less fine with the form itself now, what it is and what it looks like - but I'm still at odds with how it comes into being. That just seems...corny. And un-Dragon Ball. I dunno why, and maybe I'll change my mind a little more when I actually see it play out with my own eyes, but I'm just not fond of that element, the whole 'ritual' thing.

Or, if we had to keep the ritual for some reason, then I'd probably change the name of the form to just 'Saiyan God' or 'God Saiyan' or something, instead of Super Saiyan God. Being a Super Saiyan doesn't seem to be a per-requisite for the form, given the history of it, so why connect it in name there?

[MDSTSSJ]

I know Chuquita love the actual SSJG Kakarotto but I like this a lot more ( don´t like the Super Saiyan eyes color in that SSJG transformation ):



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[KentalSSJ6]

Honestly, the only thing I would change would be Super Saiyan God. I'm more or less fine with the form itself now, what it is and what it looks like - but I'm still at odds with how it comes into being. That just seems...corny. And un-Dragon Ball. I dunno why, and maybe I'll change my mind a little more when I actually see it play out with my own eyes, but I'm just not fond of that element, the whole 'ritual' thing.

Or, if we had to keep the ritual for some reason, then I'd probably change the name of the form to just 'Saiyan God' or 'God Saiyan' or something, instead of Super Saiyan God. Being a Super Saiyan doesn't seem to be a per-requisite for the form, given the history of it, so why connect it in name there?

Likewise. I dont mind the design anymore, its the concept and lore. This form just comes out of freaking nowhere in this movie. Its literally explained by Bills just shouting it out. No previous establishment in the story or lore. Now, if this was the "true" Super Saiyan form, Super Saiyan 1-3 being inferior forms of it and only obtained by mastering 1-3, id have no problem with it. That or if this was the "Legendary Super Saiyan" Vegeta always ranted about on Namek. But nope, form just comes out of left field with not even Vegeta knowing about it. I mean even Goku doesn't like it for crying out load.

[Saiyatonian]

More space fights.

[sintzu]

inconsistencies :

1- king kai's planet being in the movie with out giving any reason to how it's back after it was destroyed in the cell saga

2- vegeta fighting with ssj insted of ssj2/ssj3 wich he has ssj2 in the manga and it's hinted in the kanzenban ending that he has ssj3

3- gotenks fighting with ssj insted of ssj2/ssj3 wich he has both in the manga

4- pan being born before bulla even though in the manga she looks to be 1-2 years yonger then her

changes :

1- the 4 inconsistencies

2- evreything about super saiyan god or get rid of it

3- the character designs of goten-trunks-vedil-mr.satan

[TheDevilsCorpse]

4- pan being born before bulla even though in the manga she looks to be 1-2 years younger then her

That's not really an inconsistency, people don't always look their age. All but one extra bit of info we have on the two from the guidebooks and such places Pan as the older child, and that one piece of said info was proven a mistake by this movie, which falls in line with everything else.

[sintzu]

That's not really an inconsistency, people don't always look their age. All but one extra bit of info we have on the two from the guidebooks and such places Pan as the older child, and that one piece of said info was proven a mistake by this movie, which falls in line with everything else.

can you provide a source that says that ? cause the wiki states that pan is a year yonger

[TheGmGoken]

That's not really an inconsistency, people don't always look their age. All but one extra bit of info we have on the two from the guidebooks and such places Pan as the older child, and that one piece of said info was proven a mistake by this movie, which falls in line with everything else.

can you provide a source that says that ? cause the wiki states that pan is a year yonger

DBZ wiki is made by FANS. Imagine all youube fans of DB. Now imagine them(since everyone can edit it) editing wiki to prove that they're right

vegeta fighting with ssj insted of ssj2/ssj3 wich he has ssj2 in the manga and it's hinted in the kanzenban ending that he has ssj3

For all we know Vegeta was SSJ2. The animation is inconsistent with sparks

[sintzu]

For all we know Vegeta was SSJ2. The animation is inconsistent with sparks

DBZ wiki is made by FANS. Imagine all youube fans of DB. Now imagine them(since everyone can edit it) editing wiki to prove that they're right

what about the ssj aura and the ssj hair he had ?

good point about the wiki