Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:46 pm

rereboy wrote:Now you are just being silly.
Honestly...don't see how. I've never seen a figure of speech with just 2.

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Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:54 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
rereboy wrote:Now you are just being silly.
Honestly...don't see how. I've never seen a figure of speech with just 2.
- It was 3. I also posted disagreeing with him. Versus 0 people agreeing with him.

- The very point of the expression was to exaggerate, while transmitting the idea that people disagreed with him while nobody actually agreed with him on the topic. And yet you criticize the fact that I used an exaggeration, a figure of speech...?

- This has been the most pointless conversation I've ever had online. It should be abundantly clear for anyone with decent reading comprehension what I meant and why I wrote what I wrote.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:08 pm

I don't like the ugly art when the person shows they can do better. I should be laughing at the facial reactions and instead I'm just put off by how they look. Still not as bad as the Bojack special.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:09 pm

rereboy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
rereboy wrote:Now you are just being silly.
Honestly...don't see how. I've never seen a figure of speech with just 2.
- It was 3. I also posted disagreeing with him. Versus 0 people agreeing with him.

- The very point of the expression was to exaggerate, while transmitting the idea that people disagreed with him while nobody actually agreed with him on the topic. And yet you criticize the fact that I used an exaggeration, a figure of speech...?

- This has been the most pointless conversation I've ever had online. It should be abundantly clear for anyone with decent reading comprehension what I meant and why I wrote what I wrote.
I more or less disagree with how you used it.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:20 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
I more or less disagree with how you used it.
There is nothing wrong with how I used it. 3 people disagreed with him, 0 people agreed with him. That shows a clear tendency for the people who saw the newest page to disagree with his opinion. I used an exaggerated expression, a figure of speech, to show him that tendency and I admitted to such exaggeration right from the start by using the quotations marks. The end.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:21 pm

rereboy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
I more or less disagree with how you used it.
There is nothing wrong with how I used it. 3 people disagreed with him, 0 people agreed with him. That shows a clear tendency for the people who saw the newest page to disagree with his opinion. I used an exaggerated expression, a figure of speech, to show him that tendency and I admitted to such exaggeration right from the start by using the quotations marks. The end.
I kinda agreed with him....

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:29 pm

You're a troll aren't you? :roll:

I don't have a magic ball to guess the thoughts of anyone who didn't post regarding that issue before I posted.

This is my last post regarding this.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:31 pm

rereboy wrote:You're a troll aren't you? :roll:

I don't have a magic ball to guess the thoughts of anyone who didn't post regarding that issue before I posted.

This is my last post regarding this.
Not trolling. Tired? Yes. Would had posted earlier but been wayy to tired.

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Post by Malik_DBNA » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:09 am

dbzfan7 wrote:I don't like the ugly art when the person shows they can do better. I should be laughing at the facial reactions and instead I'm just put off by how they look. Still not as bad as the Bojack special.
That Bojack Special... I think I have PTSD from that... *shiver*

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:28 am

Malik_DBNA wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:I don't like the ugly art when the person shows they can do better. I should be laughing at the facial reactions and instead I'm just put off by how they look. Still not as bad as the Bojack special.
That Bojack Special... I think I have PTSD from that... *shiver*
Not nearly as bad as that Vegito's Heiress special.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:18 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not nearly as bad as that Vegito's Heiress special.
I disagree, the U16 special was a little funny, while the Bojack one was awful in every way.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:00 am

Did everyone just forget the future Trunks special in terms of awfulness?

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:11 am

Scarz wrote:Did everyone just forget the future Trunks special in terms of awfulness?
The one where he found 16? Yeah that one was pretty bad especially considering it was coming from Gothax whom I was a fan of.. not so much these days though.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:11 am

Scarz wrote:Did everyone just forget the future Trunks special in terms of awfulness?
That was just short & pointless. The Bojack, Cell, and Bra specials were long & pointless. So, they are worse.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:31 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Scarz wrote:Did everyone just forget the future Trunks special in terms of awfulness?
That was just short & pointless. The Bojack, Cell, and Bra specials were long & pointless. So, they are worse.
Hm, long AND pointless does beat out short and pointless.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kaboom » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:41 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:49 pm

Okay, I want to say something about the art. I know that everyone has already stated their own opinions on whether the art is good, bad, or even decent. But I see that most of the debate was mostly centered around how the gag reactions are drawn. Let me just say first that I think the artist is... okay. He (or she?) is good at drawing some panels but I have a strong suspicion that they're heavily relying on preexisting references, maybe from the offical manga itself.

I've also noticed that the artist is not very good when it comes to drawing gag reactions. And the whole "it's supposed to look badly drawn" defense is quite frankly, bullshit. Just because something is meant to be goofy or ugly looking does not mean it has to be poorly drawn. Toriyama's very own Dr. Slump is an excellent example of well drawn gag reactions, because he knows how exaggerate the expression of his characters properly.

Appealing design doesn't necessarily mean something that looks pretty or attractive. It's something that looks visual interesting or "right". Again, I don't think the art looks bad, I believe this artist is probably not used to drawing wild or crazy expressions. And they also have to improve on their drawing skills as well.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:57 pm

I love how the planet things have faces in that panel :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hulkty » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:13 pm

I know Arale is one that can defy logic (body-wise), but how can she instantly increase her strength and speed so much that she's able to even land a single hit on someone that is past the level of early Super Saiyans? I mean...honestly, she SHOULD at best be low DB-tier. We've seen her fight in DB for proof. The whole "gag" thing still shouldn't be an instant reasoning for being able to do some of the things we does. I mean...how can she make planets come to life with faces like that? Why wasn't 18 able to easily dodge that...even if she was surprised AND being weaken like Android Yamcha mentioned...
I know 18 is still a guaranteed win with a single good hit, BUT STILL!...
*Gets headache from pure ridiculousness*

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:18 pm

hulkty wrote:I know Arale is one that can defy logic (body-wise), but how can she instantly increase her strength and speed so much that she's able to even land a single hit on someone that is past the level of early Super Saiyans? I mean...honestly, she SHOULD at best be low DB-tier. We've seen her fight in DB for proof. The whole "gag" thing still shouldn't be an instant reasoning for being able to do some of the things we does. I mean...how can she make planets come to life with faces like that? Why wasn't 18 able to easily dodge that...even if she was surprised AND being weaken like Android Yamcha mentioned...
I know 18 is still a guaranteed win with a single good hit, BUT STILL!...
*Gets headache from pure ridiculousness*
Can you show me the feats that put her at low-DB tier?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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