Fanmanga - another DBAF

[Raykugen]

I disagree with you people. Is good that everybody have an oportunity on this manga, but... Every battle is just the same, same attacks, same transformations, there's not something special in any battle, they all look the same (Except with Uub) I don't know, if you take a look to series like Naruto, a lot of characters have their oportunities fighting, and all battles are different, but this is just, always the same.

[Saiga]

But Dragon Ball isn't Naruto, and they use completely different powers. In Naruto, fights are different because Jutsu and Kekkai Genkai vary so wildly, and they also have things such as body modifications. Dragon Ball has some unique powers, but they're not the focus, and most battles are between people whose power sets are mostly the same. I don't think it's at all fair to compare these battles to Naruto's when as a Dragon Ball fanmanga, it should be aiming to match Dragon Ball's style.

[rereboy]

Considering how awful Naruto has become, maybe its a good thing that its more like Dragon Ball.

[TheGmGoken]

Considering how awful Naruto has become, maybe its a good thing that its more like Dragon Ball.

. Naruto is actually pretty good right now.

[Saiga]

Nooo it isn't. It's a far cry from what it once was. And rereboy, I was thinking that, but didn't want to say it and open that can of worms. xD

[KentalSSJ6]

Considering how awful Naruto has become, maybe its a good thing that its more like Dragon Ball.

. Naruto is actually pretty good right now.

When the most powerful attack is the Talk-no-jutsu, the series has gone downhill.

[rereboy]

Considering how awful Naruto has become, maybe its a good thing that its more like Dragon Ball.

. Naruto is actually pretty good right now.

Nope.

[TheGmGoken]

Considering how awful Naruto has become, maybe its a good thing that its more like Dragon Ball.

. Naruto is actually pretty good right now.

Nope.

Guess we have to disagree on each other opinions

[Raykugen]

I don't care about how naruto is, I'm just saying that every fight is different and has his own special and different scenes. Thing that this AF doesn't have. Fight by fight, all of them are the same but with different characters, just imagine these people aren't the characters of Dragon Ball, would be very boring, right?

[Saiga]

I don't care about how naruto is, I'm just saying that every fight is different and has his own special and different scenes. Thing that this AF doesn't have.

Yes, but that's still not a fair comparison when this is styled after Dragon Ball, and not Naruto. If Young Jijii starts writing this like Naruto then it stops being like Dragon Ball, something that definitely should not happen.

[rereboy]

I don't care about how naruto is, I'm just saying that every fight is different and has his own special and different scenes. Thing that this AF doesn't have.

And that Dragon Ball never had, besides the occasional character. It would be uncharacteristic.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't care about how naruto is, I'm just saying that every fight is different and has his own special and different scenes. Thing that this AF doesn't have.

And that Dragon Ball never had, besides the occasional character. It would be uncharacteristic.

Well...Dragonball fights has always been different.

The Tenkaichi Budokai Era(Basically the Dragonball Anime but the manga version) was focus on skill, weird attacks, and great attacks. It took more planning and was less about ki(Until Tien arc perhaps. but mostly Piccolo Jr arc).

The Saiyajin Era(DBZ) was about power, transformations, and ki burst(Kaioken ect). The fights still wasn't the same.

Saiyan - Namek Arc fighting was MUCH different from Cyborg arc fighting. Boo Arc fighting was the most different of them all.

[Raykugen]

Well...Dragonball fights has always been different.

The Tenkaichi Budokai Era(Basically the Dragonball Anime but the manga version) was focus on skill, weird attacks, and great attacks. It took more planning and was less about ki(Until Tenshinhan arc perhaps. but mostly Piccolo Jr arc).

The Saiyajin Era(DBZ) was about power, transformations, and ki burst(Kaioken ect). The fights still wasn't the same.

Saiyan - Namek Arc fighting was MUCH different from Cyborg arc fighting. Boo Arc fighting was the most different of them all.

This.

[Saiga]

Then why didn't you actually compare it to the series, instead of Naruto? This AF isn't so far from Dragon Ball's battles. The battle against Ize is different than the battle against Marble and Chikyo. Ize has his (weird order of) transformations and Marble and Chikyo both have their own unique abilities. I haven't really read the Shadow Dragon fights as they haven't been translated yet so I can't comment.

[Raykugen]

Then why didn't you actually compare it to the series, instead of Naruto? This AF isn't so far from Dragon Ball's battles. The battle against Ize is different than the battle against Marble and Chikyo. Ize has his (weird order of) transformations and Marble and Chikyo both have their own unique abilities. I haven't really read the Shadow Dragon fights as they haven't been translated yet so I can't comment.

Because it was just a quick example.
The battle with Ize is the battle of Cell, drawing by drawing, scene by scene, it's just pathetic. Everything traced.

[Saiga]

Then why didn't you actually compare it to the series, instead of Naruto? This AF isn't so far from Dragon Ball's battles. The battle against Ize is different than the battle against Marble and Chikyo. Ize has his (weird order of) transformations and Marble and Chikyo both have their own unique abilities. I haven't really read the Shadow Dragon fights as they haven't been translated yet so I can't comment.

Because it was just a quick example.
The battle with Ize is the battle of Cell, drawing by drawing, scene by scene, it's just pathetic. Everything traced.

Yes, the tracing is the problem, but the Ize battle and Cell battle don't have much in common in terms of events except for Gohan winning with a new transformation and the final Kamehameha.

[Raykugen]

Then why didn't you actually compare it to the series, instead of Naruto? This AF isn't so far from Dragon Ball's battles. The battle against Ize is different than the battle against Marble and Chikyo. Ize has his (weird order of) transformations and Marble and Chikyo both have their own unique abilities. I haven't really read the Shadow Dragon fights as they haven't been translated yet so I can't comment.

Because it was just a quick example.
The battle with Ize is the battle of Cell, drawing by drawing, scene by scene, it's just pathetic. Everything traced.

Yes, the tracing is the problem, but the Ize battle and Cell battle don't have much in common in terms of events except for Gohan winning with a new transformation and the final Kamehameha.

Yes, they have much in common, these are not the only traced scenes, almost every scene is traced from the kanzenban number 28. And the transformations... Is just like Freeza, even Coola was more original.

[TheGmGoken]

Well...Dragonball fights has always been different.

The Tenkaichi Budokai Era(Basically the Dragonball Anime but the manga version) was focus on skill, weird attacks, and great attacks. It took more planning and was less about ki(Until Tenshinhan arc perhaps. but mostly Piccolo Jr arc).

The Saiyajin Era(DBZ) was about power, transformations, and ki burst(Kaioken ect). The fights still wasn't the same.

Saiyan - Namek Arc fighting was MUCH different from Cyborg arc fighting. Boo Arc fighting was the most different of them all.

This.

I should probably add that even GT's fighting was much different.

[rereboy]

Dragon Ball fighting was all based on the Ki power system that Toriyama invented for the series, and purely Ki attacks (instead of physical) slowly took over as the series went on. There's not much diversity to this system, basically who has the most Ki will be the strongest, but while most uses of the system were just for destructive attacks, some were creative, like Kienzan and some other memorable techniques. Most of the variety of the fights actually came from the the use of the fighting choreography and creative circumstances for the fights, which is great in Dragon Ball.

Naruto is based on a chakra power system which bets on the variety of abilities, not just techniques or choreography. Even though the main power system is chakra, there's actually lots of sub power systems of abilities to the main power system which Naruto counts on to add variety to the manga.

Their styles are very different. I think that this fan manga should have better choreography and better creative circumstances for the fights, but Naruto has nothing to do with that, and Naruto's variety also doesn't come mainly from that but from the various abilities of each character.

[KentalSSJ6]

I dont get why the tracing is bothering so many people. At least hes tracing from the original source material and not other series like Naruto and Bleach. Its a Dragonball fan series with tracings of the original manga. If anything I think its a nice little homage. It could be a lot worse people.