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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:13 pm

Once again "USELESS PSYCHIC POWERS!"

It would be a bit ironic if it's mentioned Bardock didn't see this coming. :P

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:13 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:That punch hurts just looking at it...

I'm loving this artwork.
I love that effect where the guy gets hit so hard you can see a bulge in their back. Main reason I love the Piccolo VS 17 fight so much.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hulkty » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:21 pm

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Vegeta teaching Goku to respect elders, and Goku... :lol: I know i repeat myself, but please, let that artist draw rest of chapters, her drawning skills are awesome, she even capture such details, as shocked eyes in 1st panel.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by omegalucas » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:32 pm

Goku just got possessed by his Abridged self :lol:
I'm still laughing :P
Love the new artist, but I think she still hasn't got the best on Goku. The other characters are beautiful, but there's still something about Goku... the eyes maybe?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:49 pm

Yeah, it was pretty much impossible for me to read that panel in anything other than MasakoX's voice :lol:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:55 pm

Shit that punched must of hurt. I felt that one. Also I can't stop reading Goku lines in his tfs voice.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:05 pm

LOL Goku looks so clueless...

One of the best pages sense Pan's death.

Also I'm sure if Cold follows with a left hook, with enough force it could knock Bardock's overrated head off.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:09 pm

omegalucas wrote:Goku just got possessed by his Abridged self :lol:
I'm still laughing :P
Love the new artist, but I think she still hasn't got the best on Goku. The other characters are beautiful, but there's still something about Goku... the eyes maybe?
He looks like kid Goten's face on an adult body.

I actually still prefer Gogeta Jr.'s art.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:23 pm

So Cold went 100% full power now and I wonder if he will transform into his 5th form.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:27 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:So Cold went 100% full power now and I wonder if he will transform into his 5th form.
Unless Bardock has SSJ2-3, hes utterly screwed.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:10 pm

So now Android 16 level was apparently just his suppressed level. Why the hell not? Heck, I bet he's going to transform into his never before seen super special seventh form, then beat Bra.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:16 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:So now Android 16 level was apparently just his suppressed level. Why the hell not? Heck, I bet he's going to go his never before seen super special seventh form, then beat Bra.
I think Bra's favourtism is enough to out do Cold's, though. He may have turned Cold from "weaker than Freeza" to "Android level while suppressed" but he turned Bra from "nothing noteworthy" to "half of fucking Vegetto level". :P

Although the fact that he's going to severely injured makes me think he's going to force her to go too far so she can't control herself, perhaps even Super Saiyan 2...
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:12 pm

I hope Cold doesn't have a 5th yet I'd be surprised if he didn't. It'd be needless bloating if he has it, but at the same time it would be weird it he didn't have it but his much weaker son does.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Puto » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:13 pm

Next on DBM: Cold's fifth form is as strong as Majin Boo.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Pantalones » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:16 pm

I dunno... I don't think this necessarily means that King Cold's power is going completely out of control. Yeah, him being Android #16/17/18 level at full power is pretty far out there already, but I don't think we have to worry much about it getting any worse than that. Piccolo's line was something like "Cold's way head of his sons, more like the Androids--#17 or #18, or maybe even #16." Not just "oh wow, he's as strong as Android 16 now!" It wasn't a really clear statement, it seemed more like Piccolo was trying to figure out exactly where to place him but not entirely sure, only knowing that he's far above Freeza and Cooler at their best (but also far below 2nd-form Cell.)

We know that the initial "Kamiccolo" was just about even with #17, possibly a little stronger (since he was able to keep up with #17 in an extended fight, without getting worn down too badly, despite the fact that #17 doesn't run out of power and he does.) So Piccolo should be able to tell if someone is around the same level as #17, since he's experienced that exact level of power himself in the past. If Cold was right at that level of power, he would've been able to be a little more conclusive about his power than just "maybe closer to the Androids than to his sons."

So... I'm guessing his "range from #18 to #16" power estimate is not a measure of what King Cold's current power was at the time, but Piccolo trying to guess at his full power. The only problem was that he didn't know exactly how much of his power Cold was using at the time that he made that guess, other than that he wasn't using his 100% yet since he wasn't bulked up (and unless I missed/forgot something, nobody ever mentioned what percent of his power Cold was using before he went 100% just now.) Piccolo should know by now that Freeza's family can adjust their final form's power to different levels, but there's no way of knowing at a glance whether he's using just 10% or 50%... or even 70%. Only 100% causes a really obvious strained, bulking-up transformation. So I would imagine that "closer to #17 or #18, maybe even #16" is a range of guesses based on the different possibilities: if this power he's using now is already his 70%, then he's probably only around #18 when he goes full power; if this is something lower like 50%, then his full power might be nearly as strong as #16.

Which would also make Bardock's power level not need to be as high as people were saying earlier. If Cold's full power is only around #17 or #18 level, then a "regular" Super Saiyan being able to put up a fight against his 50% or even his 70% power makes perfect sense. Bardock doesn't have to magically be in the "Vegeta after training to reach Ascended/Ultra Super Saiyan" range of power just to pull off a few good hits on someone half the strength of the Androids; if the Androids themselves were restricted to half power during the Android Saga, then Goku or Vegeta or even Trunks could probably manage the same thing (if not better.)

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:22 pm

What you're missing is that Piccolo made that estimation based on his suppressed power, when he first entered the form. So his 100% must be beyond that. And given the massive difference between Freeza's strength when he first entered the form and when he went 100%, this does not bode well.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:30 pm

Saiga wrote:What you're missing is that Piccolo made that estimation based on his suppressed power, when he first entered the form. So his 100% must be beyond that. And given the massive difference between Freeza's strength when he first entered the form and when he went 100%, this does not bode well.
So...100% Cold = Second Form Cell?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:58 pm

Assuming he was using a similar level of power as Freeza was when he first transformed (why wouldn't he? His third form was already slightly stronger than Cooler and way stronger than Videl), it's more like 100% Cold >>> Super Perfect Cell.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:10 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Assuming he was using a similar level of power as Freeza was when he first transformed (why wouldn't he? His third form was already slightly stronger than Cooler and way stronger than Videl), it's more like 100% Cold >>> Super Perfect Cell.
Ehh..I think thats abit much.

If I had to be generous id have to say 100% Cold = Suppressed Perfect Cell.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:15 pm

But Freeza initially was probably not even using 5% of his power (he was fighting base Goku, who was only 1/40th of his strength) so like RandomGuy said, if he starts out in the same percentage Freeza does, then yeah... his 100% would be more than twenty times stronger than the Androids he was compared to.

And that probably would be the case, since his second form is around Freeza's 100% already.
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