Yamcha managed to get a hit on Kami, whose finger beat the same Goku who beat Piccolo Daimao.Kakashi wrote:Piccolo Daimao vs 23rd Budokai Yamcha
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Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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But was Kami going all out?
It's not likely since he was at 300 (more or less) and Yamcha only was at 177 at BoZ.
It's not likely since he was at 300 (more or less) and Yamcha only was at 177 at BoZ.
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Kami dominated the entire fight except Yamcha managed to get in a single hit with the Sodiken. Kid Goku (who beat Piccolo Daimao) charged Kami and got beaten by a finger. So Yamcha did slightly better than Kid Goku.Zombie wrote:But was Kami going all out?
It's not likely since he was at 300 (more or less) and Yamcha only was at 177 at BoZ.
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Can you really compare a straight rush attack to a sneaky ki attack?
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King Piccolo utterly eviscerates poor Yamcha.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Sure. That was kind of the whole point that Popo was making in his debut, that Goku was inferior because he was only relying on power.Zombie wrote:Can you really compare a straight rush attack to a sneaky ki attack?
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Still Yamcha's 177 makes this match moot. Piccolo takes this with easy.
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Yamcha meets his demise when Piccolo Daimao murderkills him to death.
I think Kaio would certainly demolish the humans.
I think Kaio would certainly demolish the humans.
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Except Raditz is slightly stronger than a Saibaman and over 1,200Kaboom wrote:<Insert "fixed that for you" comment here>Kakashi wrote:How? Yamcha is stronger than a Saibaman while Raditz is slightly stronger.
Yamcha=1,480
Raditz=1,500
Saibaman=1,200
Everyone should understand something: Being okay with the official numbers is not something literally everyone does, but it's the norm. Especially here on Kanzenshuu where "NUMBERS ARE EVERYTHING" is not the average member's motto. Don't act surprised to see the official numbers used, or act like they shouldn't be.
Yamcha is not just slightly stronger than a Saibaman and he is not even 1,500. Toriyama + Manga >> Daizenshuu
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Yamcha is at least in par with Piccolo Daimao IMO. Tenshinhan would of stomped him though
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You don't get it? You're acting confused that someone referenced the official numbers for their answer, acting like the different numbers you prefer are fact, and then acting like Toriyama's quote and the manga can ONLY agree with YOUR numbers. You honestly don't see the problem with this?Kakashi wrote:Except Raditz is slightly stronger than a Saibaman and over 1,200
Yamcha is not just slightly stronger than a Saibaman and he is not even 1,500. Toriyama + Manga >> Daizenshuu
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I am not saying it's a fact, I say Raditz is stover 1,200 because Toriyama states Raditz is slightly stronger than a SaibamanKaboom wrote:You don't get it? You're acting confused that someone referenced the official numbers for their answer, acting like the different numbers you prefer are fact, and then acting like Toriyama's quote and the manga can ONLY agree with YOUR numbers. You honestly don't see the problem with this?Kakashi wrote:Except Raditz is slightly stronger than a Saibaman and over 1,200
Yamcha is not just slightly stronger than a Saibaman and he is not even 1,500. Toriyama + Manga >> Daizenshuu
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Gohan-Boo vs Hirudegarn vs Base Vegetto vs Janemba. Who wins?
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Janemba dies when the others flare their auras. A big fight ensues, as the remaining three are all around the same strength. Buuhan probably comes out on top due to his wide variety of advantages.Kakashi wrote:Gohan-Boo vs Hirudegarn vs Base Vegetto vs Janemba. Who wins?
Assuming a high end power for Vegetto, of course, otherwise it would be boring.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Boohan wins thanks to Gotenks's attacks. Janemba looses as Hirugan spits on him with acid. Vegetto takes the bug out. BooHan > Base Vegetto but the gap is unknowed but we know that Boohan is stronger and have weird attacks.
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Hirudegarn > Gohan-Boo IMO so he wins.
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I've sort of given up on trying to evaluate the strength of movie characters, to be honest. Just too many confusing and contradictory things for me to even have an idea.
I will say that I believe that Vegetto is weaker than all of them without Super Saiyan. I think that the winner would come down to either Hirudegarn or Gohan-Boo, but I have no way of comparing them. Well, I guess Gohan-Boo could just win with his abilities even if he's a bit weaker, so I'll go with him.
I will say that I believe that Vegetto is weaker than all of them without Super Saiyan. I think that the winner would come down to either Hirudegarn or Gohan-Boo, but I have no way of comparing them. Well, I guess Gohan-Boo could just win with his abilities even if he's a bit weaker, so I'll go with him.
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There was no one even near the level of Gohan-Boo in the movie of Hirudegarn, and he was beaten and killed, so...Kakashi wrote:Hirudegarn > Gohan-Boo IMO so he wins.
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Base Vegetto > Super JanembaSaiga wrote:I've sort of given up on trying to evaluate the strength of movie characters, to be honest. Just too many confusing and contradictory things for me to even have an idea.
I will say that I believe that Vegetto is weaker than all of them without Super Saiyan. I think that the winner would come down to either Hirudegarn or Gohan-Boo, but I have no way of comparing them. Well, I guess Gohan-Boo could just win with his abilities even if he's a bit weaker, so I'll go with him.
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Hirudegarn easily beat Ultimate Gohan who is 60% of Gohan-Boo IMO. He also transformedrereboy wrote:There was no one even near the level of Gohan-Boo in the movie of Hirudegarn, and he was beaten and killed, so...Kakashi wrote:Hirudegarn > Gohan-Boo IMO so he wins.



