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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Scarz » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:16 am

Malik_DBNA wrote:Mellavelli claimed on his facebook that he recieved an email from Toei claiming they wanted to add DBA to their programming. I find it hard to believe because Toei and Shueisha dont reach out like out.
I find it very hard to believe that someone can be that gullible.
He says he cant upload DBA because of what the email says.
I don't quite understand, is he's not going to upload anymore NEW episode of DBA?

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Malik_DBNA » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:01 am

Yea, he said he cant upload any new episodes until he figures out if the email is legit or not

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by kei17 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:33 am

I guess he's lying to get more donations.

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And it was the worst moment.

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Hearts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:38 am

I've been here for a while but havent posted, didnt even registrate for months.. but i got to know, whats up with the hate, and dont say its because the art is bad, or the story is bad, because the hate is more personal than that, you hate the creator for some reason

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:54 am

Hearts wrote:I've been here for a while but havent posted, didnt even registrate for months.. but i got to know, whats up with the hate, and dont say its because the art is bad, or the story is bad, because the hate is more personal than that, you hate the creator for some reason
I don't see why it's not possible to think the product is terrible independent of who the creator is.

Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean they have some vendetta against its author/artist/writer. You can simply NOT LIKE something and have totally valid reasons for it. Not everything has to be so personal.

And from what I've seen of this product, if I were going to make my own judgement call......... yeah, I'd say the same thing.
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Hearts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:09 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Hearts wrote:I've been here for a while but havent posted, didnt even registrate for months.. but i got to know, whats up with the hate, and dont say its because the art is bad, or the story is bad, because the hate is more personal than that, you hate the creator for some reason
I don't see why it's not possible to think the product is terrible independent of who the creator is.

Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean they have some vendetta against its author/artist/writer. You can simply NOT LIKE something and have totally valid reasons for it. Not everything has to be so personal.

And from what I've seen of this product, if I were going to make my own judgement call......... yeah, I'd say the same thing.
No what i mean is, the hate towards the product is too big, I'm fine with people not liking it, its actually not that good, the story is a bit of a mess and the art is weird.. But people are hating on it TOO much, and are even targetting the creator in some comments

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Malik_DBNA » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:16 pm

Hearts wrote:I've been here for a while but havent posted, didnt even registrate for months.. but i got to know, whats up with the hate, and dont say its because the art is bad, or the story is bad, because the hate is more personal than that, you hate the creator for some reason
I think most of the hate stems from when Mellavelli recieves any negative feedback and he lashes out at his detractors with insults and saying that they're idiots and dont know what they're talking about. He then blocks people and continues to insult them because he knows they cannot comment back. He just acts a bit childish.

To clarify, I dont hate Mellavelli or his series. I have my issues with his attitude, the story and such, but thats as far as it goes

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:17 pm

Malik_DBNA wrote:I think most of the hate stems from when Mellavelli recieves any negative feedback and he lashes out at his detractors with insults and saying that they're idiots and dont know what they're talking about. He then blocks people and continues to insult them because he knows they cannot comment back. He just acts a bit childish.
If this is honestly the case, then yeah, I'd say everything's pretty much perfectly valid.
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Malik_DBNA » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:23 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Malik_DBNA wrote:I think most of the hate stems from when Mellavelli recieves any negative feedback and he lashes out at his detractors with insults and saying that they're idiots and dont know what they're talking about. He then blocks people and continues to insult them because he knows they cannot comment back. He just acts a bit childish.
If this is honestly the case, then yeah, I'd say everything's pretty much perfectly valid.
It pretty much is the case. I've made comments on the videos that werent exactly negative, merely stating that while impressive it wasn't without its flaws. The comments were deleted. Thats why the comments on the videos are nothing but praise.

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Hearts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:26 pm

Malik_DBNA wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
Malik_DBNA wrote:I think most of the hate stems from when Mellavelli recieves any negative feedback and he lashes out at his detractors with insults and saying that they're idiots and dont know what they're talking about. He then blocks people and continues to insult them because he knows they cannot comment back. He just acts a bit childish.
If this is honestly the case, then yeah, I'd say everything's pretty much perfectly valid.
It pretty much is the case. I've made comments on the videos that werent exactly negative, merely stating that while impressive it wasn't without its flaws. The comments were deleted. Thats why the comments on the videos are nothing but praise.
OOOH, now i get it, thanks for clarifying :P

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:02 pm

I don't know why he would think the e-mail is real unless he is really stupid. It reminds me of that Tyler guy on the Monster Zero forums who got a fake e-mail from Criterion and fell for it.
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Episode 3 trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rwCG9-7wY
Ugh. The first 33 seconds and I've already found more issues. More Street Fighter styled characters -_-. Adult Gotenks GT(Heroes) didn't change that much. But here Adult Gotenks have a fucking cape? WHAT THE FUCK!? His fusion clothes is also wrong. Turns out we got some fan service in this one :lolno: . Bra as a fighter makes no sense. She never wanted to fight in the first place. Honestly she was suppose to be similar to her mom. Now she's a fan service fighter(I saw those boobies shake like this was HighSchool of the fucking Dead). Not buying it.
The only thing I saw in this trailer were poorly animated tits. Which I almost didn't see because of the ugly, obviously traced, action sequences.
:lol: . Yup even Scarz saw that failed fan service.
I find it very hard to believe that someone can be that gullible.
Not to disrepect him. But the creator is the type of person who...well to be blunt. Thinks he's the best. So like he'll block you if you don't like his ideas. So him thinking a fake email is real ain't out of the picture. Since he's more cocky than Vegeta.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't know why he would think the e-mail is real unless he is really stupid. It reminds me of that Tyler guy on the Monster Zero forums who got a fake e-mail from Criterion and fell for it.
Maybe he think Toei likes English products with loud music(Fixed in ep 3) and stories that make the DBZ movies make as much sense as the manga.

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Hearts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:58 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Episode 3 trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rwCG9-7wY
I like it, i like the animation, not the drawing, the drawing is weird, or more like different, but i like the animation, the story still seems like crap tho

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:11 pm

To be fair about Bra, we don't know her opinion about fighting. She does seem to know the basics about ki in GT, since she can use Bukujutsu.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:15 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:To be fair about Bra, we don't know her opinion about fighting. She does seem to know the basics about ki in GT, since she can use Bukujutsu.
I see her as typical HighSchool girl in ficiton. Trying to impress her friends and shit. So her flying was to be impressive.Though that's not fact.

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Post by Saiga » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:07 pm

Judging from the picture of Bulma at the end, she might be planned to be a fighter as well. That would be a lot more unfitting than Bra. :lol:
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Ringworm128 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:53 pm

Hearts wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
Hearts wrote:I've been here for a while but havent posted, didnt even registrate for months.. but i got to know, whats up with the hate, and dont say its because the art is bad, or the story is bad, because the hate is more personal than that, you hate the creator for some reason
I don't see why it's not possible to think the product is terrible independent of who the creator is.

Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean they have some vendetta against its author/artist/writer. You can simply NOT LIKE something and have totally valid reasons for it. Not everything has to be so personal.

And from what I've seen of this product, if I were going to make my own judgement call......... yeah, I'd say the same thing.
No what i mean is, the hate towards the product is too big, I'm fine with people not liking it, its actually not that good, the story is a bit of a mess and the art is weird.. But people are hating on it TOO much, and are even targetting the creator in some comments
If there's "too much hate" it usually means it's that bad. If there's a flaw it will be pointed out, if there's something good then it will get praise.

And I haven't seen an unfair nitpick yet.

First off the animation sucks. Yeah yeah I know it's like one or two guys on a limited budget but that still doesn't change the fact it's sloppy and unfocussed. Even that "Dragonball Zee" parody series has better animation. Now this is impressive fanimation.

The voice acting is bad or at least not right, None of the voices sound like their Funi, Ocean or even Japanese counterparts. They all sound like there doing a bad Vin Diesel or Raiden from MGS impression. And the ones that do sound slightly right still sound like they're some brooding loner from a vampire anime or something. I keep expecting someone to break into a "is life worth living" or "why are we here?" monolog.

The whole thing doesn't even feel like Dragonball the music, the acting, the designs everything feels like a bad fanfic.

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Post by Malik_DBNA » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:51 pm

ringworm128 wrote: Now this is impressive fanimation.
Now I know my animation skill is nothing like a pro, but the fact that that animation is fan made simply makes me weep. Holy crap that's awesome

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:55 pm

That shit is better than some of official animation for anime. What the fuck? I'm honestly jealous

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Post by Attitudefan » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:28 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4FvhNrJDJg

This too, whilst being a parody, is a pretty damn good fan animation. Makes Absalon look like ABSOLUTE crap.

I understand to get better is to practice, but one shouldn't undertake such a project with less than adequate skills and think that his shit don't stink!

He should take a much smaller approach and leave something like this till after he has acquired more resources and skills to do so. Plus, he should take any criticism to improve his skills.
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