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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:46 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Every time someone mentions TFS, I despise it even more. I don't care about it at all. If I was CEO of FUNimation, I'd sue them already, and demand that TFS be taken down.

Either it's Funimation's cast or Toei's for every line read in the manga or fan-manga. Not TFS.
Ever heard of the right to parody and fair use? Jeez... They are not doing anything illegal.
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Sadly, TFS is very overrated. I'd really appreciate it if they take it down now that FUNimation had made a great cast for Kai and made the show very likeable. There's no need for them to continue any longer. It irritates me when someone says they are better than Kai's cast when they really are not. It doesn't matter if they are funny or not. They aren't official, so it's pointless to keep on talking about them any longer.
What...? DB Abridged is not an accurate dub at all. Its a parody dub, filled with jokes. It doesn't replace any official Dub nor does any official Dub replace it. Have you ever even watched one episode of DB Abridged? Because it seems that you don't know what your are talking about.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:10 am

Glad I'm not the only one, who quote DBZ Abridged , how am i going to watch DBZ/Kai? :) As for this page, maybe i was a bit harsh, but, i still find hard to believe, that Gohan wouldn`t feel Dodoria ki.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:50 pm

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DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Sadly, TFS is very overrated. I'd really appreciate it if they take it down now that FUNimation had made a great cast for Kai and made the show very likeable. There's no need for them to continue any longer. It irritates me when someone says they are better than Kai's cast when they really are not. It doesn't matter if they are funny or not. They aren't official, so it's pointless to keep on talking about them any longer.
I cant speak for everyone else but I never said or thought they were better than the performance given in Kai.

I take DBZA is a very funny parody. Which is how it should be taken. Would it be interesting to see them do official work for Funimation? Absolutely, but I'm not saying anything along the lines of Masako replacing Schemmel or Laniptor (sorry if I misspelled that) replacing Sabat.

I very much enjoy and look forward to more of their work. Hell, even Chris Sabat, who if I'm not mistaken has directed all the voice work for everything Dragonball at Funimation loves these guys.
Shit, Chris Sabat has even played two random characters in TFS. And Kyle Hebert himself resumed his narrator role in The World's Strongest Abridged and was Santa in the Christmas Tree of Might.

I have no clue why you're so adamantly against Abridged, DragonBallKaiHD. It's a parody, and a very funny and popular one at that. When it's been around for so long it enters your consciousness and whether you're aware of it or not, you start associating certain things with whatever gives you the fondest or most amusing memories.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:02 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:12 pm

Oh, this is gonna be good :twisted:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Mystic Buu » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:28 pm

coola wrote:Image
Nail, kick his ass.
Wow,Nail appeared very quickly to help them.I have a feeling that he is stronger than he was in dbz because Guru maybe unlocked his potential.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:32 pm

Which makes little sense seeing as Guru should have if not already did that in the manga. Guru could clearly sense the Ginyu Force's and Freeza's power. He also says unlocking potential has no drain or impact on his life force so why wouldent Guru have unlocked Nail's potential?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Mystic Buu » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:35 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Which makes little sense seeing as Guru should have if not already did that in the manga. Guru could clearly sense the Ginyu Force's and Freeza's power. He also says unlocking potential has no drain or impact on his life force so why wouldent Guru have unlocked Nail's potential?
I don't know.I don't think he unlocked his potential.Only 42 000?But it doesn't make sense that Guru wouldn't unlock potential.Aaaaaaah,my head :crazy:

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Post by coola » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:53 pm

Guru probably did it long time ago, or offscreen.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:22 pm

I don't like how Nail looks in the last panel.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:54 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I don't like how Nail looks in the last panel.
He looks almost more a like human-sized version of Pilaf than a Namek. Must be the lack of chin or something.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:02 pm

Continuing the TFS references, I feel like this is an appropriate representation of the current situation.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:08 pm

I thought this should be posted since we were worrying why Guru didn't unlock Nail's potential.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX-K5Dj0ByM

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:29 am

I'm just saying why I don't like TFS at all. I never said anything about you guys stopping talk about TFS. I've stated my opinion here. I don't like them. I don't think of their voices when reading the lines in manga (or fan-comic). But one thing I will agree with you about official- both fan-manga and parody series aren't official. But there's difference between these two. Salagir's fan-manga doesn't overshadow the original manga by Toriyama. It will never happen even if it became hugely popular. TFS, on other hand, could potentially prevent the popularity in the dub itself. It does make me sad that some of them actually prefer TFS cast over the official one, even if they've made a huge leap in handling the voice work. It's why I have a strong feeling against TFS.
rereboy wrote:Ever heard of the right to parody and fair use? Jeez... They are not doing anything illegal.
You sure you wanna go that route? The "fair use" is a very vague term. Not even TFS is safe from this.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:31 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I'm just saying why I don't like TFS at all. I never said anything about you guys stopping talk about TFS. I've stated my opinion here. I don't like them. I don't think of their voices when reading the lines in manga (or fan-comic). But one thing I will agree with you about official- both fan-manga and parody series aren't unofficial. But there's difference between these two. Salagir's fan-manga doesn't overshadow the original manga by Toriyama. It will never happen even if it became hugely popular. TFS, on other hand, could potentially prevent the popularity in the dub itself. It does make me sad that some of them actually prefer TFS cast over the official one, even if they've made a huge leap in handling the voice work. It's why I have a strong feeling against TFS.
rereboy wrote:Ever heard of the right to parody and fair use? Jeez... They are not doing anything illegal.
You sure you wanna go that route? The "fair use" is a very vague term. Not even TFS is safe from this.
How do you know it will never happen? There are people out there that prefer this fan manga over the original work and maybe they've never even read the original manga. This is the EXACT same case as with TFS, you can't go nitpicking differences. And you do realize their public service announcement at the start of every video...

And what's wrong with people preferring the fan parody voices over the original? The original is saying things completely different and telling a different story.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:34 am

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You sure you wanna go that route? The "fair use" is a very vague term. Not even TFS is safe from this.
I stared at your post for about 5 minutes contemplating your mindset... Amazing. And not in a good way. At all.

Anyway, yeah, I'm pretty sure, since:

a) its a parody;
b) it only uses partly the copyright materials in order to create that parody;
c) the fair use doctrine is vague on purpose so that it can not be limited to a specific set of uses. Its meant to refer to a general use;
d) parody is a meant use of the fair use doctrine;
e) its a non-profit work.

There's no doubt in my mind that its a work protected by the right to parody and fair use, and nothing good would come from a draconian copyright protection and prosecution that doesn't even allow something like DBA to exist. And yet, here you are, defending such prosecution, just because you don't like this particular work. Amazing...
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I'm just saying why I don't like TFS at all. I never said anything about you guys stopping talk about TFS. I've stated my opinion here. I don't like them. I don't think of their voices when reading the lines in manga (or fan-comic). But one thing I will agree with you about official- both fan-manga and parody series aren't official. But there's difference between these two. Salagir's fan-manga doesn't overshadow the original manga by Toriyama. It will never happen even if it became hugely popular. TFS, on other hand, could potentially prevent the popularity in the dub itself. It does make me sad that some of them actually prefer TFS cast over the official one, even if they've made a huge leap in handling the voice work. It's why I have a strong feeling against TFS.
I guess we should outlaw any fan voice over or fan dub of any partial clip of Dragon Ball Z (unaltered or not), even if its meant only as a parody. I mean, can you imagine if people actually like the voice over? Those poor guys of the official dub... They must be protected! Outlaw them! Sue them! It doesn't matter if its a parody or not, if it only uses partly the copyright materials, if its a profit work or not, if it actually falls under the fair use doctrine under every criteria or not, just grab the torches and pitchforks!

Ridiculous...

DBA doesn't compete with DBZ at all. If someone doesn't know DBZ and sees DBA and likes it, chances are they are going to check out the official product and the true story. And even somebody that knows it, thanks to DBA, chances are that they get a renewed interest in DBZ. As a parody, half of the jokes don't even make sense if someone doesn't know the franchise and the dialog is pretty much all changed and even the story is changed. Even most of the voices wouldn't work in a official dub, they only work because its a parody.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by testing223 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:20 am

Abridged has brought new fans to the series.

That alone makes it worthwhile.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Mystic Buu » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:29 am

TFS is a parody,made for entertainment and fun and that's all.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:53 pm

Good lord, make one comment about how a certain line puts a voice from TFS into your head, and suddenly the entire thing explodes.

As far as I saw, not a single person (in this thread at least) ever said anything about preferring TFS over the other casts, English or Japanese. Hell, nobody even said they preferred them over the FUNimation of old even - nothing like that came up. It was a simple statement of 'Heh, that line made me think back to Abridged Guru. Good stuff.' and we all went to waiting for the next page. I see absolutely no reason for such an over-the-top reaction about it.

As for the new page itself, I agree, there's something a little...odd...about Nail's face in the last panel. It's not bad, but there's something a little uncomfortable about it...I dunno what it is though.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Insertclevername » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:06 pm

I think the art style is neat but it's a little rough around the edges. Nail's body looks more off than his face.
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