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Hellspawn28
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Goku will show up and becomes a SSj. He will beat up Freeza until he reaches his 4th form then destroys the Planet. I doubt Freeza is going to summon the Ginyu force.
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TheOverlyMadHatter
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He's already called for them actually.They're slated to arrive around the same time relative to Goku's arrival in the main timeline.Hellspawn28 wrote:I doubt Freeza is going to summon the Ginyu force.
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Fionordequester
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Ah, wait a minute, I know what'll happen! Gohan and the others will make their wish, Elder Guru will die, then the Ginyu Force will show up, kill everyone, but then fail to find the Dragon Balls. Then Frieza will almost kill him before he exits into someone else's body! Just like what happened in the main universe!
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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Also, I hope by "helping Mr. Nail", Gohan means rescuing him from drowning as opposed to facing Freeza. We don't need him overestimating his strength again.
The reason Freeza (almost) killed Ginyu is because a Saiyan massacred his capital planet, and Ginyu failed to stop it from happening.Fionordequester wrote:Ah, wait a minute, I know what'll happen! Gohan and the others will make their wish, Elder Guru will die, then the Ginyu Force will show up, kill everyone, but then fail to find the Dragon Balls. Then Freeza will almost kill him before he exits into someone else's body! Just like what happened in the main universe!
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I really doubt that this special is going to solve this.
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It's pretty much what most people have been anticipating.Mystic Buu wrote:I really doubt that this special is going to solve this.Spoiler:
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Ugh. We're not learning anything interesting in this chapter, are we?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Fionordequester
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Uh Oh...is Frieza up in the air right now?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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I won't provide any spoilers but I'd ask: what were you expecting from this chapter? What would be "[some]thing interesting"? I'm asking from real curiosity - not from malice.RandomGuy96 wrote:Ugh. We're not learning anything interesting in this chapter, are we?
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He's noticing the lack of Dragon Balls in his spaceship, not Gohan and co. flying in the airFionordequester wrote:Uh Oh...is Freeza up in the air right now?
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Stuff like:Tzigi wrote:I won't provide any spoilers but I'd ask: what were you expecting from this chapter? What would be "[some]thing interesting"? I'm asking from real curiosity - not from malice.RandomGuy96 wrote:Ugh. We're not learning anything interesting in this chapter, are we?
-How do Freeza and co run the galaxy?
-What happens to Babidi and Dabra? To Kaioshin?
-Who wrecked Freeza's capital?
-Why did they do it? It's either Gohan and Goku, and mass murder isn't really like either of them.
-Why did Freeza feel the need to go all the way to his final form, and why did he decide to stick with it forever?
-How is the organization shaken up by the loss of Freeza's top lieutenants and the revelation that there are other beings out there who can get THIS strong? Stronger than 3rd form Freeza, at least.
-Why is Freeza even upset with Ginyu? If this saiyan was strong enough to make Freeza go to his final form, there's nothing Ginyu could have done.
-Why is Ginyu even alive? Shoudln't the saiyan have killed him?
-Does Cooler ever make a move? He's stronger than his brother and father, and seemingly more competent too. Would he really stay satisfied with second best forever?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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And you frankly were expecting all of this to happen in this chapter(s)? Or maybe you wanted those things to happen? Because those are two different things. If you knew DBM a bit beforehand, you'd probably notice that the special chapters take things slowly. It's quite probable (though don't take my word on that - I have no more info about upcoming special chapters then you do) that we will at some point get some other special chapters about universe 8 that would deal with the issues you mentioned. The purpose of this chapter was to showcase the changes on Namek - and it did it.RandomGuy96 wrote:Stuff like:Tzigi wrote:I won't provide any spoilers but I'd ask: what were you expecting from this chapter? What would be "[some]thing interesting"? I'm asking from real curiosity - not from malice.RandomGuy96 wrote:Ugh. We're not learning anything interesting in this chapter, are we?
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I was expecting at least one or two of those things to happen. Instead, what we got was incredibly boring to me, even though they stretched it into two chapters. They had tons of space, they couldn't even fit in a couple interesting things?
And you frankly were expecting all of this to happen in this chapter(s)? Or maybe you wanted those things to happen? Because those are two different things. If you knew DBM a bit beforehand, you'd probably notice that the special chapters take things slowly. It's quite probable (though don't take my word on that - I have no more info about upcoming special chapters then you do) that we will at some point get some other special chapters about universe 8 that would deal with the issues you mentioned. The purpose of this chapter was to showcase the changes on Namek - and it did it.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Eh, I actually thought Zarbon vs. Krillin and Gohan was interesting, and in my opinion, a really good fight! Though I have to admit, I wasn't expecting that to be the bulk of the special. It does seem like there should have been a LITTLE more happening before the special ended.RandomGuy96 wrote:I was expecting at least one or two of those things to happen. Instead, what we got was incredibly boring to me, even though they stretched it into two chapters. They had tons of space, they couldn't even fit in a couple interesting things?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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Looking back on it now, yes, the Zarbon fight was pretty good... but I still can't really "like" it because it took up so much of the special. With two chapters, you'd think that more stuff would actually happen.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I still think that fight was boring and shittyRandomGuy96 wrote:Looking back on it now, yes, the Zarbon fight was pretty good... but I still can't really "like" it because it took up so much of the special. With two chapters, you'd think that more stuff would actually happen.
. But I agree that we learned nothing from this special and the Namek arc was pretty much the same until a few pages ago.Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
RandomGuy96 wrote:Looking back on it now, yes, the Zarbon fight was pretty good... but I still can't really "like" it because it took up so much of the special. With two chapters, you'd think that more stuff would actually happen.
Unless its abbreviated as hell, not a lot can happen in two chapters.
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So what are the odds that Ginyu is King Cold?
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Now that I think about it...perhaps very likely! It would explain how King Cold got so much stronger if he had an actually savvy and experienced fighter inside him!miguelnuva1 wrote:So what are the odds that Ginyu is King Cold?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".