Goku can't survive in space, but can breathe?!

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by TenshiGokuu » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:54 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:From what Toriyama said I take it to mean that he can breathe in a much thinner atmosphere than humans can but still not in a vacuum.
You do realize that oxygen does exist in space, its just in a form of carbon and moleculalar oxygen level, which is just not enough for humans to be able to survive on it. the oxygen that we have on earth is in form of H20 and is essentially strong enough for humans and some living creatures to live on it, so i think my theory is that goku in the end could survive in space since he can survive on lower oxygen levels, its just i think there are other factors that he couldnt, and like i said the lack of food, water, maybe constant exposion to really low temperature, although goku never complained about being exposed to -455 degrees so i guess thats it.

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by TenshiGokuu » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:59 pm

Saiyan007 wrote:That part of space is called the exosphere.

•Exosphere: The exosphere is the outermost layer of the Earth's atmosphere. The exosphere goes from about 400 miles (640 km) high to about 800 miles (1,280 km). The lower boundary of the exosphere is called the critical level of escape, where atmospheric pressure is very low (the gas atoms are very widely spaced) and the temperature is very low.

The atmosphere here merges into space in the extremely thin air.

So Basically there is little to no air up where Goku and Beerus was.

It just shows Saiyans have a better lung capacity also he could of stayed up there longer but he was exhausted from the fight not becuase of the lack of air even when he was out of breath he was still up there showing no signs of asphyxiation
having better lung capicity doesnt mean they have better breathing ability, its just means that they can store more oxygen in them, but as you remember they both werent holding their breath, infact none of them really seemed to pay attention to much even though they were already like in space. so i guess thats one point.

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by Saiyan007 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:52 pm

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Saiyan007 wrote:That part of space is called the exosphere.

•Exosphere: The exosphere is the outermost layer of the Earth's atmosphere. The exosphere goes from about 400 miles (640 km) high to about 800 miles (1,280 km). The lower boundary of the exosphere is called the critical level of escape, where atmospheric pressure is very low (the gas atoms are very widely spaced) and the temperature is very low.

The atmosphere here merges into space in the extremely thin air.

So Basically there is little to no air up where Goku and Beerus was.

It just shows Saiyans have a better lung capacity also he could of stayed up there longer but he was exhausted from the fight not becuase of the lack of air even when he was out of breath he was still up there showing no signs of asphyxiation
having better lung capicity doesnt mean they have better breathing ability, its just means that they can store more oxygen in them, but as you remember they both werent holding their breath, infact none of them really seemed to pay attention to much even though they were already like in space. so i guess thats one point.
They point i'm really saying is that Goku was were there is little too absolutely no air and the fact that he showed no signs of needing air makes me belive he can survive in the vacuum of space for a while until he needs food

Freeza and King Kai confirmed Goku would die w/o any air becuase he couldn't survive where there is no air

They never said he would die immediately he could probably go on for hours w/o air but like i said he can't survive out there

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by TenshiGokuu » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:47 pm

Saiyan007 wrote:
TenshiGokuu wrote:
Saiyan007 wrote:That part of space is called the exosphere.

•Exosphere: The exosphere is the outermost layer of the Earth's atmosphere. The exosphere goes from about 400 miles (640 km) high to about 800 miles (1,280 km). The lower boundary of the exosphere is called the critical level of escape, where atmospheric pressure is very low (the gas atoms are very widely spaced) and the temperature is very low.

The atmosphere here merges into space in the extremely thin air.

So Basically there is little to no air up where Goku and Beerus was.

It just shows Saiyans have a better lung capacity also he could of stayed up there longer but he was exhausted from the fight not becuase of the lack of air even when he was out of breath he was still up there showing no signs of asphyxiation
having better lung capicity doesnt mean they have better breathing ability, its just means that they can store more oxygen in them, but as you remember they both werent holding their breath, infact none of them really seemed to pay attention to much even though they were already like in space. so i guess thats one point.
They point i'm really saying is that Goku was were there is little too absolutely no air and the fact that he showed no signs of needing air makes me belive he can survive in the vacuum of space for a while until he needs food

Freeza and King Kai confirmed Goku would die w/o any air becuase he couldn't survive where there is no air

They never said he would die immediately he could probably go on for hours w/o air but like i said he can't survive out there
Frieza and King kai never stated anything about not being able to breathe in space, unless i missed something, they both did state, that goku simply wont be able to survive in space, survive is a big word, it doesnt just mean not having air to breathe, but also, possibly first being blown up with the planet, lack of food, water, zero gravity bone density loss, and so on. if frieza said that he could survive in space, while we see he also has nose who realies on oxygen, it means that the issue, probably had nothing to do with not being able to breathe, because both of them could.

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by Saiyan007 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:02 pm

Your're stating what i just said he could stay in space for god know how lonmg but he can't survive due becuase thier is no food as well as other things

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by Friezacooler » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:16 pm

Any evidence of a Saiyan dying cause of lack food? nope i guess. So they could survive long time even without food. However without ki is a different story. heck they could also survive without ki or it just means the scouters etc can't sense battle powers below 5.

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:58 am

Friezacooler wrote:Any evidence of a Saiyan dying cause of lack food? nope i guess. So they could survive long time even without food.
Goku was starving in the beginning of the series.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by Blade » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:43 am

Well, even in sub-orbital space, the thin air and low temperatures would be beyond what any living being would be able to tolerate, especially when we're talking about the conditions required for a land mammal to survive. Even then, you've got to consider the harmful, cancer inducing rays from the sun that the Earth's upper atmosphere and magnetosphere do such a jolly good job of mopping up - so if we're looking at this through a thoroughly real world perspective and can even pretend that Goku's incredible powers somehow allowed him to survive momentarily in such conditions, you might as well call the next movie "Goku fights Lymphoma".

It's a scene that's obviously in the film for entirely cinematic and aesthetic purposes, where in-universe logistics were obviously given little thought or sacrificed entirely in the name of imbuing the final face off with an iota of 'epic'. As we've seen, the shot looks good on film posters - which as far as the marketing-bods at Toei are concerned was probably reason enough to include it in the film.
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Re: Goku cant survive in space,but can breathe?!

Post by Cetra » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:13 am

He said "maybe" so he did not actually think too much about it.

If I where Goku I would use a shield like Vegeto/Vegito did and just isolate some oxygen inside of that shield. As it prevented inhaling Boo's whatever is inside of his body (if he did not hold his breath at that time even while talking) but he still needs to breathe he should normally have oxygen inside of that shield/force field.
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Re: Goku can't survive in space, but can breathe?!

Post by Friezacooler » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:32 pm

kid Goku's durability is 86'400 times greater than a mere human meaning he could survive upto 15 days longer than a average human in space.

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Re: Goku can't survive in space, but can breathe?!

Post by Saiyan007 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:37 pm

Friezacooler wrote:kid Goku's durability is 86'400 times greater than a mere human meaning he could survive upto 15 days longer than a average human in space.
I'm curious as to where you got that number for Kid Goku and how you figured he can survive 15 days more than the average human

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Re: Goku can't survive in space, but can breathe?!

Post by Friezacooler » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:05 pm

Saiyan007 wrote:
Friezacooler wrote:kid Goku's durability is 86'400 times greater than a mere human meaning he could survive upto 15 days longer than a average human in space.
I'm curious as to where you got that number for Kid Goku and how you figured he can survive 15 days more than the average human
well he tanked an attack that would but the average human to sleep for 10 days. he woke up after 10 seconds.

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Re: Goku can't survive in space, but can breathe?!

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:38 pm

Friezacooler wrote:
Saiyan007 wrote:
Friezacooler wrote:kid Goku's durability is 86'400 times greater than a mere human meaning he could survive upto 15 days longer than a average human in space.
I'm curious as to where you got that number for Kid Goku and how you figured he can survive 15 days more than the average human
well he tanked an attack that would but the average human to sleep for 10 days. he woke up after 10 seconds.
How does that translate to holding your breath longer?
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Re: Goku can't survive in space, but can breathe?!

Post by Friezacooler » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:51 pm

well he tanked an attack that would but the average human to sleep for 10 days. he woke up after 10 seconds.[/quote]

How does that translate to holding your breath longer?[/quote]

just pointing out he can survive longer than the average human.

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Re: Goku can't survive in space, but can breathe?!

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:01 pm

But being knocked out for less time by an attack doesn't mean he can hold his breath exactly that much longer... that makes no sense.
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