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[goku the krump dancer]

@ Saiga .. That blast from Gotenks seems to be the only time he was hit by a blast and didn't get blown pieces or ripped apart in some way. That whole scene in itself is kinda weird in a gag-ish type of way. First Boo does his mouth blast and Gotenks seems stunned and then literally shakes the ashes off in a looney toons type fashion and then returns the favor to Boo who seems equally stunned and that's when Gotenks proceeds to whale on him before he defuses.

Any other time in the entire arc when Boo is hit by a projectile he's ripped apart in some way.

@Randomguy .. You keep saying he can but you aren't providing any proof. You try to make it seem like it's painfully obvious that he can but still aren't saying how. Goku was shown to deliberately increase his durability all of one time. Any other instance of someone "tanking" an attack is because they were simply strong enough to do so.

Just give me one instance of Boo increasing his durability and I'll leave it alone.

[RandomGuy96]

@Randomguy .. You keep saying he can but you aren't providing any proof. You try to make it seem like it's painfully obvious that he can but still aren't saying how. Goku was shown to deliberately increase his durability all of one time. Any other instance of someone "tanking" an attack is because they were simply strong enough to do so.

Just give me one instance of Boo increasing his durability and I'll leave it alone.

It's not a matter of INCREASING it. It's DECREASING it. Buu is strong enough to tank attacks (physical attacks and blasts) from super powerful characters like Gotenks with no damage. Attacks strong enough to shatter the Earth millions of times over had they not been condensed by the user. This is shown. Repeatedly. Yet, in that one instance, he was weak enough for bullets to damage him. This is because, like every other character, he can control what level of power he's using. He likely wasn't using any ki at all when bullets tore through him.

Again: unless you literally think bullets are stronger than Gotenks' attacks (and by extension, Goku's, Vegeta's... pretty much everybody's),- which they'd have to be for Buu not to be blown apart every time one of the fighters so much as touches him, since their punches and kicks have the same power as their blasts- then Buu obviously just let the bullets pass through him.

@ Saiga .. That blast from Gotenks seems to be the only time he was hit by a blast and didn't get blown pieces or ripped apart in some way.

Apart from, you know, the dozens of other blasts Gotenks hit him with in that same battle.

[goku the krump dancer]

Maybe we have different definitions of the term "Tanking". When I think of someone tanking an attack I think of Goku tanking Coolers gut punch, Cell tanking Vegeta's kick to the neck, Cell tanking Vegeta's Ki blast barrage both after the Final Flash and Trunks' death, pretty much anything that was thrown at Broly in movie 8 or Freeza tanking Nails blast etc..

I just checked all of Boo's major battles against Vegeta, Gotenks, Gohan, Vegetto and Goku and in none of those battles was there instance where Boo tanked an energy blast. You've yet to give me an example of Boo tanking a blast and unless you do so then I honestly think we're done here.

[rereboy]

Just give me one instance of Boo increasing his durability and I'll leave it alone.

Gray Buu tanked bullets. Super Buu didn't, they pierced him. The only plausible answer is that Super Buu didn't feel the need to actually tank them as they were harmless to him.

[goku the krump dancer]

I'm aware of the part with Black/Grey Boo. I only neglected to bring it up because I figure he works a bit differently from the other incarnations in that he's an incomplete Boo what he lacks in bubble-gumness he makes up for in sturdiness but he can't regenerate or stretch his limbs or anything of that sort. I mean he's a weird case since he wasn't around that long but that's how I feel about it.

[rereboy]

I'm aware of the part with Black/Grey Boo. I only neglected to bring it up because I figure he works a bit differently from the other incarnations in that he's an incomplete Boo what he lacks in bubble-gumness he makes up for in sturdiness but he can't regenerate or stretch his limbs or anything of that sort. I mean he's a weird case since he wasn't around that long but that's how I feel about it.

So, in order to justify the bullets bouncing off him you simply assume a complicated theory regarding his body (which is never implied to work any differently from the body of the other Buus and that has even been colored pink just like the others by Toriyama himself on colored works), instead of simply following what has been fact in the series ever since Vegeta told Krillin to hurt him to trigger a Zenkai while explaining that it would work because Vegeta would willingly decrease his Ki, making Krillin able to hurt him.

Doesn't seem plausible.

[goku the krump dancer]

Boo himself (at least in the way his body works) is complicated and sometimes implausible.

[RandomGuy96]

I just checked all of Boo's major battles against Vegeta, Gotenks, Gohan, Vegetto and Goku and in none of those battles was there instance where Boo tanked an energy blast. You've yet to give me an example of Boo tanking a blast and unless you do so then I honestly think we're done here.

Except I just did. Gotenks hit Buu with dozens of ki blasts in their battle, only for Buu to emerge not visibly harmed. Gotenks then explicitly stated he wasn't damaged at all.

He also tanked base Gotenks and, in filler, SS3 Goku. If he were so weak that bullets could actually damage him, as you seem to desperately want to make the case, then he wouldn't have actually been able to fight anyone. He would've been blown apart every single time someone punched him.

[goku the krump dancer]

We don't even know for sure if the "Death Missle Chain" hit him (or atleast hit him directly). He was already scuffed up from the "Volleyball Attack" and he remained underground until Gotenks stopped to which he popped up from the other side.

I know about Gotenks' punches. But withstanding physical blows isn't the issue. Boo is a weird being, when he hits you its like being smacked with metal, when you hit him its like punching tough silly puddy and when you blast him it's like he's made of wet tissue paper all the while stretching and reforming like gum.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

To me, it looks like Boo isn't naturally durable at all (see all the off-guard hits from weaker characters), but he can amplify his durability with ki, like everybody does.

[RandomGuy96]

We don't even know for sure if the "Death Missle Chain" hit him (or atleast hit him directly). He was already scuffed up from the "Volleyball Attack" and he remained underground until Gotenks stopped to which he popped up from the other side.

I know about Gotenks' punches. But withstanding physical blows isn't the issue. Boo is a weird being, when he hits you its like being smacked with metal, when you hit him its like punching tough silly puddy and when you blast him it's like he's made of wet tissue paper all the while stretching and reforming like gum.

We do, because Gotenks was surprised it didn't damage him. Which wouldn't be the case if he somehow missed every single shot. Seriously, you've been given three examples of Buu not instantly gibbing when shot/blasted, what more do you need?

No, when you hit him it's like you're hitting metal, and the same goes for when he hits you or you blast him. There's functionally no difference between a punch and a generic blast. They're both using the same source of energy to do damage, and they're both physical blunt force attacks. He can tank blasts just like anyone else, which he does repeatedly. He's doesn't magically lose his star+ durability against ranged attacks.

[goku the krump dancer]

He was underground, and he seemed to have taken know damage from the attack.. So how do we know he was hit at all? He was already messed up from a previous assault. The examples given are questionable ones and those are the ONLY times Boo seemed to have not been ran through or ripped apart by a Ki blast in the entire arc.

Last I checked you can't treat metal like a paddle ball yet that's exactly what Goku did to Fat Boo.

[RandomGuy96]

He was underground, and he seemed to have taken know damage from the attack.. So how do we know he was hit at all? He was already messed up from a previous assault. The examples given are questionable ones and those are the ONLY times Boo seemed to have not been ran through or ripped apart by a Ki blast in the entire arc.

Now you're just reaching. You're assuming that Gotenks missed every single shot, and was surprised that Buu didn't take damage anyway? And that bullets only bounced off Pure Evil Buu because of some complicated and nonsensical theory about his body? And that the mouth blast didn't blow Buu apart because "it's a gag, it doesn't count"? Whatever, you only asked for one example of Buu being durable anyway and were given three. We're done here.

In every other example of him getting blown apart by a ki blast, there's no indication that anyone else with the same level of power wouldn't have been blown apart or pierced... only they can't regenerate.

[goku the krump dancer]

Gotenks literally shaking off all the damage he had taken even ripped clothing definitely makes it a gag scene.. Boo withstanding Gotenks' punches was never a concern, this debate was about "Boo and projectiles" namely Ki blasts at first. Whether or not it's a stretch it's not impossible, Boo was underground, Gotenks couldn't see him but he "knew" Boo was down there and when he pops back up he appears to haven taken no damage. It's an iffy scene.

My little theory on Black Boo is just as much of an assumption as you claiming that Boo in general could lower his chi to be pierced by bullets or any other projectile attack that are coming from individuals who are weaker than him. When don't see much from him due to his short appearance but in both the manga and the extended scenes in the and Black Boo shows no signs of being stretchy and gooey like any of ther others mane incarnations of the creature. Black has bullets bounce off him at first, then he absorbs good Boo and now billets wizz through him like water. Why did that happen? Well nothing is really said on the matter so we are only left to assume what we want. Boo's body doesn't work like everybody else's, when Vegeta punches Goku there isn't a huge dent in his head or stomach that could just *plop* back to normal yet that's what happened when Vegeta hit Fat Boo. When Goku hits anybody else their head doesn't go twirling like Kid Boo's did.

Vegeta has shot Ki blast barrages plenty of times in the past both when he was stronger and weaker than his adversary and in none if those instances was the enemy ripped to pieces except for Kid Boo. Goku and Kid Boo are around the same level so are you telling me that if Vegeta Ki barraged SS3 Goku he'd be blown apart? I think not sir.

What's the point of lowering your chi so bullets can pierce through if they're just going to bounce off you anyway? It's just as harmless.

[rereboy]

What's the point of lowering your chi so bullets can pierce through if they're just going to bounce off you anyway? It's just as harmless.

If bullets just went through you with no harm to you, but you could also stop them by flexing you muscles, why would you bother to flex your muscles to stop them? Most of the time you would probably you just let them go through you out of laziness.

[RandomGuy96]

Gotenks literally shaking off all the damage he had taken even ripped clothing definitely makes it a gag scene.. Boo withstanding Gotenks' punches was never a concern, this debate was about "Boo and projectiles" namely Ki blasts at first.

You do realize there's basically no difference between a generic ki blast and a punch except range right? They both use the same power source and both rely on blunt force to do damage.

Whether or not it's a stretch it's not impossible, Boo was underground, Gotenks couldn't see him but he "knew" Boo was down there and when he pops back up he appears to haven taken no damage. It's an iffy scene.

When has Toriyama ever been so obtuse and contradictory with such a simple scene? And why didn't Piccolo assuage Gotenks' concerns by pointing out that, against all logic, Gotenks had somehow managed to miss every shot?

My little theory on Black Boo is just as much of an assumption as you claiming that Boo in general could lower his chi to be pierced by bullets or any other projectile attack that are coming from individuals who are weaker than him.

Except Buu being able to lower his ki is an actual fact (he does so to hide later, and to get Piccolo to misread him), while Pure Evil magically not having the same body properties as the other Buus is not even hinted at anywhere.

When don't see much from him due to his short appearance but in both the manga and the extended scenes in the and Black Boo shows no signs of being stretchy and gooey like any of ther others mane incarnations of the creature.

Because he had no reason to. He's literally around for a few panels, and in those all he does is blast a gunman, punch Fat a few times, deflect his candy beam, and eat him.

Black has bullets bounce off him at first, then he absorbs good Boo and now billets wizz through him like water. Why did that happen? Well nothing is really said on the matter so we are only left to assume what we want.

Except we know Evil Boo, the one who bullets whiz through, can both control his ki and likes to screw with people.

Boo's body doesn't work like everybody else's, when Vegeta punches Goku there isn't a huge dent in his head or stomach that could just *plop* back to normal yet that's what happened when Vegeta hit Fat Boo. When Goku hits anybody else their head doesn't go twirling like Kid Boo's did.

Except that only happens in a few choice scenes. In many other scenes, such as when Gohan or Gotenks hit Super Buu, the effects are as if they hit anyone else.

Vegeta has shot Ki blast barrages plenty of times in the past both when he was stronger and weaker than his adversary and in none if those instances was the enemy ripped to pieces except for Kid Boo.

Pure Buu was explicitly screwing around. That's why he was laughing, having fun, and didn't, you know, kill Vegeta with one punch. Even when Vegeta was in base.

Goku and Kid Boo are around the same level so are you telling me that if Vegeta Ki barraged SS3 Goku he'd be blown apart? I think not sir.

Goku only blew Pure Buu apart with a full force Kamehameha to the face. I'd think that if SS3 Goku hit SS3 Vegeta with that attack, yes, Vegeta would die.

What's the point of lowering your chi so bullets can pierce through if they're just going to bounce off you anyway? It's just as harmless.

What rereboy said. Also, Buu's an asshole.

[goku the krump dancer]

Punches dont burn you, chi blasts do. There's also plenty of seemingly plain and straight forward things that are vague in explanation (if they have any at all) thus leaving them open to fan interpretation, I won't name any though because they'll just spiral into other debates. Yes Boo in general likes to mess with people but he only lets Vegeta continue to blast him only after the first initial blast tears his legs off. I'm aware that boo can lower his chi but there's no indication that he did that spin his his appearance as "Super Boo" especially since piccolo felt him the entire time anyway.

Black Boo is like an outlier to the already oddity that is Majin Boo's body. His skin is a different color and once he's gone he's gone forever. Many people say he lacked components that would make him a "complete" incarnation of Boo and only regains them once merged with the other Boo. I side with that idea and like to think he couldn't absorb people, stretch his limbs, regenerate or hell probably couldn't use the candy beam on his own.It may seem more "complex" than just "lowering his chi" but really it isn't. Pure Evil Boo's body is different, not that hard to think about.

[Hades]

I was hoping that this fight would take Bra down a peg or two with her arrogance.

[rereboy]

The next pages are sooo bad... . Probably the worst in DBM since this is supposed to be the tournament, even though this is a special.

[Gyt Kaliba]

The next pages are sooo bad... . Probably the worst in DBM since this is supposed to be the tournament, even though this is a special.

Bad artwise, story wise, or...well, both?