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Post by ultimateemail5000 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:34 pm

I am not sure if it is just my Best Buy or what. But today they were having a 20 dollar off if you apply for a credit card. Even if you are declined you still get the twenty off, so I was able to pick up season 2 brand new for 6 dollars. I still need to get 1 and 3.

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Post by Kendamu » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:37 am

ultimateemail5000 wrote:I am not sure if it is just my Best Buy or what. But today they were having a 20 dollar off if you apply for a credit card. Even if you are declined you still get the twenty off, so I was able to pick up season 2 brand new for 6 dollars. I still need to get 1 and 3.
They all do that. The coupon is supposed to be for specific items and for purchases over $50, but some stores (like mine) aren't so strict on what's being purchased as long as the total is over $50.
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Post by SSJ Electric Fury » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:11 pm

Does anyone know what happened with Season 2 on Amazon; what the issue supposedly was? This occurrence was brought up earlier in this thread, but I didn't see mention of a specific cause.
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Post by samuraix123 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:54 pm

SSJ Electric Fury wrote:Does anyone know what happened with Season 2 on Amazon; what the issue supposedly was? This occurrence was brought up earlier in this thread, but I didn't see mention of a specific cause.
I'm not sure but nobody should order it just yet because it says it'll be In stock on April 23, 2014.
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This actually makes the 2nd time this has happened with these season sets. and ever since the 1st time with season 1, the price never dropped down below $20 again. I'm betting the same is going to happen with S2. then season 3. lol
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Post by samuraix123 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:54 pm

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I was wrong. :P :lol: :lol: Season 2 is back up for $16.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:28 am

I'm highly interested seeing how the Blu-rays of Seasons 7-9 will look in comparison to the Orange Bricks 7-9, by this time they looked very good rather than.. um, ya know.

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That first screenshot with Goku's base hair while having the Super Saiyan aura looks pretty cool, even though that was a mistake (I think).
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Post by IGhostUlt » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:08 pm

After reading this whole topic for 3 weeks, i realized a lot of are guys are just plain hating on this release. This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it. Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.

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Post by samuraix123 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:17 pm

IGhostUlt wrote:After reading this whole topic for 3 weeks, i realized a lot of are guys are just plain hating on this release. This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it. Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.
While I agree some people do hate on this release a little ''Too hard'' but most of the criticisms are justified. There's no need for Funimation to crop something into 16x9 format just to give it a ''New!'' look. They have never cropped another release that I'm aware of so why do it to Dragon ball? I actually like this set a-lot. I'm glad that it's not over-saturated(too crazy) like the OB's. and stuff isn't getting deleted off the screen.
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Post by MagicBox » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:33 pm

IGhostUlt wrote:This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it. Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.
Where? Where do we have it? The canceled, incomplete single discs? The canceled, incomplete "level" sets? The limited-print FUNiBoxes that nobody can buy anymore?

The "modern" releases outnumber the stuff you're claiming we already have. Everyone's complaints are justified.
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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:52 pm

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IGhostUlt wrote:This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it. Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.
Where? Where do we have it? The canceled, incomplete single discs? The canceled, incomplete "level" sets? The limited-print FUNiBoxes that nobody can buy anymore?

The "modern" releases outnumber the stuff you're claiming we already have. Everyone's complaints are justified.
That's the heart of the matter, really; it would not really matter how good these (perfectly watchable) releases were. There are people who missed the Dragon Boxes (Inevitable) who would like to watch the show in 4:3 without scrubbing, and they can't do that without tracking down single discs in 2014.

Fact that Funimation's seemed to equate those who want 4:3 with the "hardest of the core" (Read: Section of the fanbase that sees through our nonsense and thus we cannot profitably satisfy), if we take the line in their Kanzenshuu response to its coldest possible extreme, means that Funi has somehow turned something as trivial as the original aspect ratio into a matter of fanaticism- and one that is only remotely effective because of DBZ's magnificent overstepping of the anime acceptance barrier. It's a freak relic of the standard 4:3 cropping of theatrical movies all over again, from company that's as far removed from that era as anyone other publisher in any other property they touch.
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:20 pm

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IGhostUlt wrote:This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it. Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.
Where? Where do we have it? The canceled, incomplete single discs? The canceled, incomplete "level" sets? The limited-print FUNiBoxes that nobody can buy anymore?

The "modern" releases outnumber the stuff you're claiming we already have. Everyone's complaints are justified.
MagicBox made the exact point I was about to state... Of course a lot of us think the release is sub-par; but we'd be a lot less upset (and perhaps more receptive to the Blu-Rays) if FUNimation didn't cancel or discontinue release that the hardcore fanbase wanted and was happy to support. If FUNi at least kept the Dragon Boxes in print, most of us on this forum wouldn't even mind that these sets are being released.

To many, it feels like FUNimation is phasing out the original 4:3 presentation, and will only allow the 16:9 cropped versions to be the ONLY version of Dragon Ball Z available to English-speaking territories.

That's our gripe. Many consumers don't even have an option now, unless you're willing to spend ridiculous amounts of money on the second-hand market or buy raw untranslated Japanese DVDs. It's 16:9 or nothing.

As a matter of fact, I don't necessarily dislike the actual remastering itself; it's the cropping that bothers me. I'd be willing to buy a 4:3 Blu-Ray release of this remaster if one was ever commissioned. Also, I legally purchased the first two of these Blu-Ray seasons, gave it a chance, and decided that overall, it's not that great of a product, and is not really worth it if you already own the Dragon Boxes, Kai, or the Orange Bricks...

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Post by IGhostUlt » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:57 pm

I understand that there is a limited supply of dragon boxes, but from what i've seen a lot of the haters already have the dragon boxes. Oh and I can understand the aspect ratio part, although it doesn't bother me that much.
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Post by Gokuden » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:08 am

IGhostUlt wrote:I understand that there is a limited supply of dragon boxes, but from what i've seen a lot of the haters already have the dragon boxes. Oh and I can understand the aspect ratio part, although it doesn't bother me that much.
Well, it would make sense that people who have the Dragon Boxes would put forth an analysis based on empiricism; they have the ability to finely compare the two.
I'm buying these sets regardless, I know they are terribly flawed from a faithful point of view, but that just makes them unique.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:40 am

IGhostUlt wrote:After reading this whole topic for 3 weeks, i realized a lot of are guys are just plain hating on this release. This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it. Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.
Really?

We do have 4 releases of which 3 are incomplete due to their cancellations minus one of them covering uncut from later Freeza-Boo, while the other one was only available for a limited time.

Dragon Ball Z: Singles (Later Freeza to Majin Boo)
Dragon Ball Z: Ultimate Uncut Edition (Cancelled)
Dragon Ball Z: Dragon Box Z (Limited Edition)
Dragon Ball Z: Levels (Cancelled)

I guess you can say that we do have one actually in its complete form but it's out of print so for many people that's not an option, and to be spending hundreds then it'd just be better to go with the original Japanese Dragon Boxes Z.
samuraix123 wrote:While I agree some people do hate on this release a little ''Too hard'' but most of the criticisms are justified. There's no need for Funimation to crop something into 16x9 format just to give it a ''New!'' look. They have never cropped another release that I'm aware of so why do it to Dragon ball? I actually like this set a-lot. I'm glad that it's not over-saturated(too crazy) like the OB's. and stuff isn't getting deleted off the screen.
Well, with cropping comes deleting stuff off the screen.
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Post by dan2026 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:54 am

Funimation's guide to a perfect DBZ Blu-ray release;

- DNR the shit out of it. Bye-bye grain, bye-bye detail.

- Crop to 16:9. Who wants to see the whole picture anyway?

Joking aside, these two points alone make this an absolutely terrible Blu-ray release.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:57 am

So, is there any significant detail loss in these? And also, does the cropping cut anything significant?
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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:02 am

IGhostUlt wrote:This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it. Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.
It doesn't look like a "digital" anime at all. it just looks smudged with completely all over the place colors and random patches of grain around edges. Kai does a much better job of "modernizing" the footage.

Besides, what's wrong with an old show looking... old?
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:51 am

dan2026 wrote:Funimation's guide to a perfect DBZ Blu-ray release;

- DNR the shit out of it. Bye-bye grain, bye-bye detail.

- Crop to 16:9. Who wants to see the whole picture anyway?

Joking aside, these two points alone make this an absolutely terrible Blu-ray release.
Seeing how FUNimation makes millions from these Dragon Ball Z re-releases the time may've come that Toei Animation decided to take FUNimation's remastering lessons, and as for the result? Take a look at Dragon Ball Kai: Majin Boo arc episodes.

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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:19 am

IGhostUlt wrote:After reading this whole topic for 3 weeks, i realized a lot of are guys are just plain hating on this release.
I don't think that the people who have some arguments to back up their opinions are just simple haters.
IGhostUlt wrote:This blu ray set was to give dbz the modern digital look that anime has today and it's done a brilliant job doing it.
In my humble opinion, they gave us a pile of shit. Show me some examples of modern anime shows which look like season blu-rays and I will change my mind. Excluding the remastering quality, show me a home video release of some new show that misses ~15-20% of the original footage and has artificial camera pans added to it.
IGhostUlt wrote:Not that old grainy, gate weave stuff that a lot of y'all want. We already have all of that already.
Where can I get old grainy, gate weave stuff on blu-ray? :D
But seriously, as long as there is only one blu-ray release, entire fanbase has a right to consider this to be a product targeted towards them. This is the only reason I'm even discussing about this release.
theoriginalbilis wrote:If FUNi at least kept the Dragon Boxes in print, most of us on this forum wouldn't even mind that these sets are being released.
Others would not be satisfied because their main purpose is just an update from SD to HD. Some of us just want to see this classic animation in HD. And yes - as long as I have an alternative, I can even support cropped releases if my friends want them.
theoriginalbilis wrote:As a matter of fact, I don't necessarily dislike the actual remastering itself; it's the cropping that bothers me.
IIRC, there are people who don't mind cropping but they strongly dislike the remastering quality.
dbboxkaifan wrote:Seeing how FUNimation makes millions from these Dragon Ball Z re-releases the time may've come that Toei Animation decided to take FUNimation's remastering lessons, and as for the result?
That's my biggest concern since I understood how popular and widely accepted FUNimation's ideas are...

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Post by LordCrumb » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:42 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Seeing how FUNimation makes millions from these Dragon Ball Z re-releases the time may've come that Toei Animation decided to take FUNimation's remastering lessons, and as for the result? Take a look at Dragon Ball Kai: Majin Boo arc episodes.

Comparison of Dragon Box Z Vs. Dragon Ball Kai's Majin Boo arc HD remastering below.
kei17 wrote:Toei have embraced the crushed blacks cult.

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Hope this isn't what Dragon Ball Z would look like if Toei Animation were to remaster it properly. :(
Kai looks leagues better than the Blu-Rays. It just needs a little colour correction.

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