What should Toei focus on after Kai?

[Hellspawn28]

They already retire DB from 1997 - 2007. In 2008, the series started to become more active again with Kai, the 2008 Jump Special, Bakuretsu Impact, and Evolution. They retire the franchise again, everyone is going to cry about it again.

[ABED]

Saying "we didn't need Db" has nothing to do with my post which is talking about AFTER the series was over.

Unless I'm wrong, you mean DB hasn't needed anything new since the 10th Anniversary Special. Well, my point is that we don't need DB, period.

I like the idea of treating it like Bond, a new film every so often.

[TheGmGoken]

Saying "we didn't need Db" has nothing to do with my post which is talking about AFTER the series was over.

Unless I'm wrong, you mean DB hasn't needed anything new since the 10th Anniversary Special. Well, my point is that we don't need DB, period.

I like the idea of treating it like Bond, a new film every so often.

See that's where yoy mis understood. Saying we didn't need Db is starting from chapter 1 to BoG. I'm saying stuff AFTER Gt or even Path to power wasn't "needed" as the series was pass its prime and already was finished. Then I said YSGAFR was nice one off not some "stand alone prequel" to BoG. I'm talking from the End of series stand point. Not well we don't want this or that. Toei could make money from the games like Heroes for Db and even money from One Piece.

[ABED]

Dude, I got your point completely. I'm simply saying that it's not a great argument because none of it was necessary. DB in any form is nice to have, even past its prime, and DB jumped the shark a while ago, but that doesn't mean it still isn't enjoyable.

[UltimateHammerBro]

I think that they should focus in anything but DB. Come on, it's enough.
My personal opinion is that anything beyond The Path to Power wasn't necessary. You may disagree, but if they continued doing DB stuff, that'd surely be jumping the shark.

[ABED]

I think that they should focus in anything but DB. Come on, it's enough.
My personal opinion is that anything beyond The Path to Power wasn't necessary. You may disagree, but if they continued doing DB stuff, that'd surely be jumping the shark.

It jumped the shark a while ago. And again with the "not necessary?" Even though shows jump the shark that doesn't mean it still can't be enjoyable.

[TheGmGoken]

I think that they should focus in anything but DB. Come on, it's enough.
My personal opinion is that anything beyond The Path to Power wasn't necessary. You may disagree, but if they continued doing DB stuff, that'd surely be jumping the shark.

It jumped the shark a while ago. And again with the "not necessary?" Even though shows jump the shark that doesn't mean it still can't be enjoyable.

Nothing about Db has been enjoyable really. Only YSGAFR and EOB were decent. Also yes "Db" wasn't needed. But I'm talking about POST series. If I make a series called Dragon of Ball and 12 - 20 years later I make new stuff up. That isn't needed. And that is where you miss the point

[Hellspawn28]

I'm happy with the more DB stuff we are getting in Japan. During the late 90's and most of the 2000's, the franchise was pretty much dead outside of video games, the home video releases and Bandai stuff.

[ABED]

I think that they should focus in anything but DB. Come on, it's enough.
My personal opinion is that anything beyond The Path to Power wasn't necessary. You may disagree, but if they continued doing DB stuff, that'd surely be jumping the shark.

It jumped the shark a while ago. And again with the "not necessary?" Even though shows jump the shark that doesn't mean it still can't be enjoyable.

Nothing about Db has been enjoyable really. Only YSGAFR and EOB were decent. Also yes "Db" wasn't needed. But I'm talking about POST series. If I make a series called Dragon of Ball and 12 - 20 years later I make new stuff up. That isn't needed. And that is where you miss the point

Nope, didn't miss your point at all. I get it, post series wasn't necessary. Your point wasn't difficult to grasp.

YSGAFR was fun. Unnecessary, just like the show, but still good to have.

As was mentioned, there was a period where there was no new stuff, and I'm glad to see new stuff with characters I enjoy.

[MagicBox]

Toei is a Japanese film and TV company. They make shows with a Japanese mind set since the people in their country are the main target audience. Toei does not make Dragon Ball for the people in the US.

The 2013 movie was produced, from conception to completion, with near-worldwide exhibition in mind. All evidence we've received points to the Buu arc of Dragon Ball Kai starting out as a series produced mainly for international audiences. I'm well aware that Toei is a Japanese studio that makes Japanese shows and Japanese movies for Japanese people who live in Japanese homes in Japan. All of that goes without saying. I merely stated that, considering Dragon Ball's global popularity, Toei's acknowledgement/reliance on it in recent years, and the fact we're moving closer and closer towards a global fandom/economy/whatever-you-want-to-call-it every day, that it would be foolish of Toei to not keep that same line of thinking if they were to produce a Heroes series.

EDIT: And I understand that Toei is merely an animation studio and that boosting the international popularity of Dragon Ball Heroes would be up to Dimps and Bandai Namco. But I still think it would be something to keep in mind.

[Chuquita]

I'd be fine with a new movie every two or three years. I really don't want a Heroes series because I don't care about the game or its characters, or the way it treats DB characters like pokémon or the cards in yugioh.

[Hellspawn28]

I would imagine Bandai America could find away to sell Heroes in the US. Since Skylanders is a big thing right now, they could do a scanner toy for the cards on the PS3, 360, Wii U, 3DS, Xbox One and PS4.

[TheGmGoken]

Nope, didn't miss your point at all. I get it, post series wasn't necessary. Your point wasn't difficult to grasp.

YSGAFR was fun. Unnecessary, just like the show, but still good to have.

As was mentioned, there was a period where there was no new stuff, and I'm glad to see new stuff with characters I enjoy.

You're still stuck on the the original show is unesscary. My point was that Toei should focus on other potential money makers such as One Piece instead of milking Db. Heroes is great for that. Not these lame ass characters, transformations, plot, and music.

[dbzfan7]

Maybe doing something based around the Dragon Ball and not Z...like the story of Mutaito, Muten Roshi, the Crane Hermit, and Piccolo Daimao. Though I doubt they'll ever do that.

[ABED]

Nope, didn't miss your point at all. I get it, post series wasn't necessary. Your point wasn't difficult to grasp.

YSGAFR was fun. Unnecessary, just like the show, but still good to have.

As was mentioned, there was a period where there was no new stuff, and I'm glad to see new stuff with characters I enjoy.

You're still stuck on the the original show is unesscary. My point was that Toei should focus on other potential money makers such as One Piece instead of milking Db. Heroes is great for that. Not these lame ass characters, transformations, plot, and music.

I GOT your point. And I'm not stuck on anything. Why does something being necessary or unnecessary matter? All that should matter is if it's good or not, and I don't care about One Piece. Toei can do both at the same time. I haven't seen Battle of Gods so I can't give an opinion, but whether it's necessary or not is irrelevant.

[TheGmGoken]

Nope, didn't miss your point at all. I get it, post series wasn't necessary. Your point wasn't difficult to grasp.

YSGAFR was fun. Unnecessary, just like the show, but still good to have.

As was mentioned, there was a period where there was no new stuff, and I'm glad to see new stuff with characters I enjoy.

You're still stuck on the the original show is unesscary. My point was that Toei should focus on other potential money makers such as One Piece instead of milking Db. Heroes is great for that. Not these lame ass characters, transformations, plot, and music.

I GOT your point. And I'm not stuck on anything. Why does something being necessary or unnecessary matter? All that should matter is if it's good or not, and I don't care about One Piece. Toei can do both at the same time. I haven't seen Battle of Gods so I can't give an opinion, but whether it's necessary or not is irrelevant.

You said my point was unesscary stuff. My point was focusing on other money makers or potential money makers. If yoy did care for OP you would know its a huge money maker. I wouldn't have an issue with pointless shit if it was GOOD. DBM was obviously more of a Jaco promotion for more buyers. Eob waa to promote a money maker that didn't need help. Nothing from DB has been good with exception of YSGAFR. But since Toei target is Japan they're happy with this. Nothing wrong with that

[ABED]

You said my point was unesscary stuff. My point was focusing on other money makers or potential money makers. If yoy did care for OP you would know its a huge money maker. I wouldn't have an issue with pointless shit if it was GOOD. DBM was obviously more of a Jaco promotion for more buyers. Eob waa to promote a money maker that didn't need help. Nothing from DB has been good with exception of YSGAFR. But since Toei target is Japan they're happy with this. Nothing wrong with that

Your constant use of initials makes it hard to read.

Companies can have different people working on stuff at the same time. Working on Battle of Gods doesn't distract from One Piece.

[UltimateHammerBro]

I think that they should focus in anything but DB. Come on, it's enough.
My personal opinion is that anything beyond The Path to Power wasn't necessary. You may disagree, but if they continued doing DB stuff, that'd surely be jumping the shark.

It jumped the shark a while ago. And again with the "not necessary?" Even though shows jump the shark that doesn't mean it still can't be enjoyable.

Agree. The problem is when it becomes increasingly less enjoyable. Then jumping the shark begins to seem unnecessary to me.

[ABED]

I think that they should focus in anything but DB. Come on, it's enough.
My personal opinion is that anything beyond The Path to Power wasn't necessary. You may disagree, but if they continued doing DB stuff, that'd surely be jumping the shark.

It jumped the shark a while ago. And again with the "not necessary?" Even though shows jump the shark that doesn't mean it still can't be enjoyable.

Agree. The problem is when it becomes increasingly less enjoyable. Then jumping the shark begins to seem unnecessary to me.

You only jump the shark once.

[TheGmGoken]

You said my point was unesscary stuff. My point was focusing on other money makers or potential money makers. If yoy did care for OP you would know its a huge money maker. I wouldn't have an issue with pointless shit if it was GOOD. DBM was obviously more of a Jaco promotion for more buyers. Eob waa to promote a money maker that didn't need help. Nothing from DB has been good with exception of YSGAFR. But since Toei target is Japan they're happy with this. Nothing wrong with that

Your constant use of initials makes it hard to read.

Companies can have different people working on stuff at the same time. Working on Battle of Gods doesn't distract from One Piece.

I know this. I also said different POTENTIAL money makers. Depending on Toei Budget who knows. Toei also isn't known for spending money