"Vegeta®": 160 LBS?!

[Steven Perry]

According to the "Official" Budokai 2 strategy guide, "Vegeta®" weighs a mere 160 LBS. What is this, a joke? There's no way in HFIL that a man packin' all that muscle weighs such an insignificant amount (less than me). He trains all day (with immense weights), eats all day (most likely more than he burns, making it a good environment for muscle growth), and trains at high gravity. Just look at him:

For him to simply sprout massive muscles like that, he must somehow be compressing them. Right? There's no way he can just grow them then and there. I also remember that in the 1st Broly movie, when Piccolo® drops Vegeta® , he almost fell right through the concrete building. Any human would just splat.

As you can tell, that "Official" guide is very annoying. Especially with all of them "®s!" Can Vegeta really be that light?

[Snail]

That weight for Vegeta is logical actually. That picture you have of Vegeta is when he is bulked up, the official guide probably gave the weight number of Vegeta when he is at his base form, e.g. when he's not transformed into an ascended saiyan, or super saiyan 2, whatever it may be. Don't forget that Vegeta is not very tall as well. 160 lbs is a very reasonable weight number for Vegeta. My closest friend weighs 185 and he is pretty damn bulked up in muscle mass. He's half a foot taller than me, I'd say I'm about 5 foot 9? 5 foot 8? So my verdict is, this is easily acceptable, and it is logical as well.

[BoxerGloves]

I think that Vegeta's weight temporarily increases, when he transforms into his Ascended Saiyan form, because of all the muscle mass increasage. Besides, Vegeta is of average height, he's neither tall or short. So yeah, weighing 160 LB's sounds just about right for him.

[Steven Perry]

I think that Vegeta's weight temporarily increases, when he transforms into his Ascended Saiyan form, because of all the muscle mass increasage. Besides, Vegeta is of average height, he's neither tall or short. So yeah, weighing 160 LB's sounds just about right for him.

So, where does the extra mass come from? It's physiologically impossible for it to happen- even for a Saiyan. Dragonball can't be that unrealistic, can it?

Everybody seems to be associating the stated weight with height, saying that it's "average" for his height. Vegeta doesn't live an "average" lifestyle. With all the stresses he puts on it (weight training), and all that food... he should be built like a tank. Which he is. On top of that, he's a Saiyan- meaning accelerated growth.

If he did weigh that much, it would be evident that he doesn't have much muscle- so he wouldn't even be able to stand up in the gravity chamber. He wouldn't be able to support himself. Put an "average" 160 LBS man in there, and he'd snap. For Goku and Vegeta to stand in there, they've got to be very strong. And where does this strength come from? I can accept the muscle being compressed (it's a bit more realistic), but I can't accept it just growing (in USSJ form).

A man at the same height could weigh 190 LBS plus, and still look quite small under clothes. It all depends on body composition. What I'm looking for is further evidence in the anime which supports my belief that Vegeta is damn heavy. Or otherwise.

[Li'l Lemmy]

According to the "Official" Budokai 2 strategy guide, "Vegeta®" weighs a mere 160 LBS. What is this, a joke? There's no way in HFIL that a man packin' all that muscle weighs such an insignificant amount (less than me). He trains all day (with immense weights), eats all day (most likely more than he burns, making it a good environment for muscle growth), and trains at high gravity.

Remember, YOU'RE the one who put the word official in quotation marks. If you disagree with the weight estimate, then this is all you need.

[SaiyaMel]

According to Dr Briefs on page 162 of Viz vol. 12 - Vegeta weighs "60 kg" - which is about a 133 or 140 lbs.. however, according to this translation - he says "if you weigh 60 kg." - meaning that it could be a mere speculation on Dr Briefs part. He could weigh quite a bit more at base form for all i know....muscle weighs more than fat.

[Godo]

You all seem to think that only muscles does the strenght. I have friends that are very thin and don't have much muscles, but they can lift a lot in weights. And then we have to remember that Goku & co. get their strenght through chi, and not entirely through muscles. They use chi to do the stuff they do. When they get stronger, they can collect and make more chi, plus use it. So yes, Vegeta can weigh 160 lbs.

And then it's just fiction.

[Duo]

Then don't accept the Strategy guide as "official". FUNImation's website is supposedly "official" but do any of us accept the idiotic and stupid crap in the character bio's there? Haha, no.

[Casual Matt]

I think that Vegeta's weight temporarily increases, when he transforms into his Ascended Saiyan form, because of all the muscle mass increasage. Besides, Vegeta is of average height, he's neither tall or short. So yeah, weighing 160 LB's sounds just about right for him.

So, where does the extra mass come from? It's physiologically impossible for it to happen- even for a Saiyan. Dragonball can't be that unrealistic, can it?

Go tell that to Goku's hair when he turns into a Super Saiyajin 3.

Logic and Dragon Ball go together about as well as a certain mustached dictator and a certain religious group of people.

[Mystic Jack]

According to Dr Briefs on page 162 of Viz vol. 12 - Vegeta weighs "60 kg" - which is about a 133 or 140 lbs.. however, according to this translation - he says "if you weigh 60 kg." - meaning that it could be a mere speculation on Dr Briefs part. He could weigh quite a bit more at base form for all i know....muscle weighs more than fat.

Whoo, I'm 50 kilos! geez I'm close to Veggie breath! I think it's perfectly logical to have that kind of weight myself, technically if you're gonna go by the gravity chamber theory, we'd see any extra weight would be a burden, sure it'd help in training but ya know, I guess if you really wanna look into it more, I suggest just looking into the manga and stuff, you never know what you find.

[Jerseymilk]

You do know that for anime and video games, they often just make up a height and weight right? That's why you get some female that's 6'0" and extremely well endowed, yet her stats say she's only weighs 125lbs. I personally never take them very seriously.

[Chuquita]

I usually put him (in base form) in the 120's-130's. In super saiyajin and above usually from the 130's to the 150's. Its impossible to perfectly pinpoint Vegeta's height so I just try to estimate.

[Great Saiyaman]

As strange as this may sound, it's stated that Vegeta would weigh 18 Tons in 300x Gravity.....which means 120 pounds. >_>

[Deus ex Machina]

I think that Vegeta's weight temporarily increases, when he transforms into his Ascended Saiyan form, because of all the muscle mass increasage. Besides, Vegeta is of average height, he's neither tall or short. So yeah, weighing 160 LB's sounds just about right for him.

So, where does the extra mass come from? It's physiologically impossible for it to happen- even for a Saiyan. Dragonball can't be that unrealistic, can it?

Go tell that to Goku's hair when he turns into a Super Saiyajin 3.

Logic and Dragon Ball go together about as well as a certain mustached dictator and a certain religious group of people.

Like my lecheros friend has said, real world physics have no place in the DragonBall universe. Remember we're talking about a world where animals can talk and have magic powers, Gods are wise-cracking aliens, and martial artists blow up entire planets by flexing their impossibly large pectorals.

[veshira]

I always took it that when the ground collapses beneath one of the fighter's, it is that their weight increases. I mean, ki doesn't seem to be destroying the ground beneath them or anything. (It actually has happened, but it's not usually the case.) So I say, if those fighters can stuff all that food down their throats and then move around after that as if normal, than those same fighters can compress muscle as they did with food.

Sorry if this was mentioned already, but I'm just too tired to read the topic right now: Wasn't there a theory that said something about the fighters creating their own pocket of time and space by increasing their weight, thus also changing the matter around them and seemingly being able to move at faster speeds?

[SkylarEC]

this is 100% completely plausable. In fact, I'm more in the 120 - 135 camp. If you can't accept the fact that matter can just appear, then how do you explain the fact that a five year old child can turn into a giant ape while the moon is full? Or, how do you explain the fact that airplanes, cars, and even houses can be kept inside a capsule that is not only significantly smaller than said object, but it has considerably less weight once inside said capsule.

And, of course, you know that if you want to uphold real world science, then you would know that, according to Einstein, if somebody were to shoot an energy blast, that they would simply explode or cease to be due to the physics involved in converting something into actual, usuable energy.

[Pang_Tong]

He's a short and trim guy. The weight seems accurate to me.

[Steven Perry]

He's a short and trim guy. The weight seems accurate to me.

Vegeta's got to be at least 250 LBS (a short while before the Buu saga). You can see him without his top on, while training with Trunks. Even if he does have low body fat, he shouldn't weigh such a small amount (160 LBS). You can tell just by looking at him that he's not that light! I'm 159.6 LBS without water, and 168 LBS with water (at the end of the day). Most of my weight comes from lean body mass- not fat (you can determine your body composition by using special instruments). Yet, I'm not as bulked as him. Not yet, anyway.

Why does everyone say that 160 LBS is plausible?!

HAVE A LOOK AT SOME PICTURES! Piccolo dropped him from above, and he almost smashed right through concrete! What do you think?

Yeah... I know. It's Dragonball logic.

[Bejiita]

I think Vegeta does put on weight when his muscles bulk up.

He is not human, he is an alien, a Saiya-Jin, and the transformation causes his muscles to become drastically bigger in a split second (which is also physiologically impossible, so is hair magically turning yellow, but this is DBZ).

This must obviously make him weigh more, this is also what causes his movements to slow down, and why he can't beat Cell like that, because he weighs heavier and also because his muscles being so big get in the way.

[Pang_Tong]

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He's a short and trim guy. The weight seems accurate to me.