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by rereboy » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:47 am
TheGmGoken wrote:rereboy wrote:Ok, buddy, whatever you say...
No need for the attitude.
Attitude? That's no attitude, trust me. That's just me giving up trying to actually follow a discussion with you regarding this issue.
Fionordequester wrote:Don't know what all the complaining about Freeza is. I think he looks really cool! Very sleek, like his previous form, while also feeling very powerful looking, with those six-pack abs and what look like elbow spikes and everything. Even greater than Cooler does in fact!
Yeah, I agree with you. Looks great and I wouldn't mind at all if it was an official design.
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by Saiga » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:13 am
RandomGuy96 wrote:Saiga wrote:Also what can be seen of the head thing looks more like Freeza's. At least to me.
Anyway, I'm surprised to see Ghost Freeza transform before U8 Freeza. Now if U8 Freeza does it it won't be quite as surprising, although this might be used to try and establish Freeza as a threat to Goku. Now, obviously the Freeza we know would be too much for base Goku but one-shot material for Super Saiyan Goku, making the fight fairly boring. So I've been thinking for a while that the extra form is going to give a massive power boost, and that base Cooler in DBM will be portrayed as being fairly weak without the form, only stronger than Freeza while transformed.
If Super Freeza could challenge post-Buu SS Goku while Cooler was Trunks arc SS Goku level at best... why would Raichi even bother summoning him? What would Cooler be worth in a team-up?
Realistically nothing but with Kuririn putting up a resistance against Hirudegarn and SS Bardock doing better when Cold powered up meant I wasn't going to question that.
I also thought of this before this fight happened. And... I just don't see the point of matching up Freeza against Goku if he's not any better than 17. Except maybe to show "Goku still hasn't surpassed 100% Freeza in base".
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by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:18 am
Saiga wrote:RandomGuy96 wrote:Saiga wrote:Also what can be seen of the head thing looks more like Freeza's. At least to me.
Anyway, I'm surprised to see Ghost Freeza transform before U8 Freeza. Now if U8 Freeza does it it won't be quite as surprising, although this might be used to try and establish Freeza as a threat to Goku. Now, obviously the Freeza we know would be too much for base Goku but one-shot material for Super Saiyan Goku, making the fight fairly boring. So I've been thinking for a while that the extra form is going to give a massive power boost, and that base Cooler in DBM will be portrayed as being fairly weak without the form, only stronger than Freeza while transformed.
If Super Freeza could challenge post-Buu SS Goku while Cooler was Trunks arc SS Goku level at best... why would Raichi even bother summoning him? What would Cooler be worth in a team-up?
Realistically nothing but with Kuririn putting up a resistance against Hirudegarn and SS Bardock doing better when Cold powered up meant I wasn't going to question that.
I also thought of this before this fight happened. And... I just don't see the point of matching up Freeza against Goku if he's not any better than 17. Except maybe to show "Goku still hasn't surpassed 100% Freeza in base".
Plus even if 5th Form Freeza gave SSJ Goku some trouble, Goku can just go SSJ2 or SSJ3 and obliterate Freeza.
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by rereboy » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:41 am
Freeza doesn't have to be able to take on fully powered Goku, or fully powered universe 13 Vegeta, or even last very long against them, for it to be fun, cool and interesting. This illusion Freeza has already been much more entertaining in just a few pages than dozens and dozens of previous DBM pages.
Saiga wrote:
Realistically nothing but with Kuririn putting up a resistance against Hirudegarn and SS Bardock doing better when Cold powered up meant I wasn't going to question that.
Different Hirudegarn from the movie and different Kuririn from the manga. And I disagree that Bardock fared better against powered up Cold than agaisnt non-powered up Cold but I think I already commented on that at the time (for example, Bardock was only able to actually hurt non-powered Cold, he was only able to make powered up Cold flinch and let go of him).
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by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:44 am
rereboy wrote:Freeza doesn't have to be able to take on fully powered Goku, or fully powered universe 13 Vegeta, or even last very long against them, for it to be fun, cool and interesting. This illusion Freeza has already been much more entertaining in just a few pages than dozens and dozens of previous DBM pages.
Not disagreeing with you there. I guess I owe it to Asura's art that I still have a interest in this anymore. After Gogeta Jr. left and the artistic quality dropped (unless it was Charlotte drawing) the series seemed to go downhill in a lot of things, including the story. Hopefully Asura becomes the fulltime artist and we can see the story pick itself up.
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by Dbzfan94 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:46 pm
I like that design. It's sorta different than my own design of the form, but I like it.
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by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:48 pm
How strong is Rhino I mean Freeza. In DBM is Freeza stronger or weaker than Coola
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by TonyTheTiger » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:51 pm
I actually think Asura's current art is better than Gogeta Jr.'s later work. Gogeta Jr. was always great but he definitely streamlined and simplified everything over the course of the comic. An ideal scenario would be Gogeta Jr. returns and he and Asura split the work between them so nobody suffers burnout. Beta is also very good and I wouldn't mind seeing more of her. Whatever is necessary to keep the artists happy enough so they don't drop out or are forced to downgrade their efforts to meet deadlines.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:06 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:How strong is Rhino I mean Freeza. In DBM is Freeza stronger or weaker than Coola
Freeza & Coola are as strong they were in the manga/anime & movie respectively, meaning that Final Form Coola is stronger than Full Power Freeza. However, Raichi's Ghost Warriors are stronger than the real ones, and that Freeza can transform as well, so we can't know.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by coola » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:24 pm
Why they always have to block blast with one hand? Guess it look more badass. Art. looks fantastic, especially 3rd one
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by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:28 pm
Asura's art...

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by BlazingBarrrager » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:38 pm
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Asura's art...

Haha that's one way of interpreting it.
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by jjgp1112 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:11 pm
That whole page was absolutely breathtaking.
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by Malik_DBNA » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:40 pm
that page is freakin' sick
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by TheGmGoken » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:51 pm
Asura deserves everything. Got damn he or she(?) is talented. BTW is that a codename or hisher real name
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by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:53 pm
Holy crap...I dare say that use of line shading is even
better than what Toriyama employed.

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by Tzigi » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:08 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:Asura deserves everything. Got damn he or she(?) is talented. BTW is that a codename or hisher real name
1. It's he.
2. In all probability the former. He's French (or at least French-speaking) and Asura isn't a normal French name.
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by Sshadow5001 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:11 pm
This page is amazingly well drawn.
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by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:34 pm
This guy is amazing. He needs to get a job as an official artist.
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