Could Chiaotzu destroy the Earth?

[Super SaiyaJon]

Although I don't believe Chaozu could destroy the planet, I must disagree with you, rancor, as Chaozu is much stronger than you say.

I know that that they did train a lot, there is really no proof that he didn't reach the maximum power level that was possible for him. Even if he did exceed the human limits few times over, his power level at the end of the series probably wouldn't be stronger than 400 which would be over a god level for a human, but far from reaching planet destroying levels.
(I'd say he is probably somewhere in between 100 and 150)

That is a gross, gross understatement. You do realize that Chaozu trained with Kaio, correct? I'm pretty sure you'd have to seriously try not to become stronger while on Kaio's planet (especially with that 10x gravity thing he's got going on). He also sparred with Piccolo while training with Kaio, and was able to hold it together. No one could even hope to do as well against Piccolo with a power level of 400.

Also, Daizenshuu 7 flat out says Chaozu's power level is 610 before fighting Nappa. I think that's really all you need.

[sintzu]

Why does everyone asume that Chiautsu really did surpass the level of saiyan arc vegeta ?

Because it's a thing to make Vegeta look weak and useless.

[SSJ3_Gogeta]

I believe that Chiaotzu possesses the power needed, but maybe not the techniques.

[dbzfan7]

They're only different in that they're more powerful. At the level of, say, the Ginyu Force, it doesn't matter whether or not they're using a regular ki blast or a special, amplified attack. Vegeta's Galick Gun, with a power of 24,000, could destroy the Earth. The ONLY thing preventing Earth from being destroyed every time someone throws a punch or blast is that the fighters willingly condense their attacks for more effectiveness, letting the energy only harm the target in a very small area.

How is condensing making anything more effective? A larger blast radius with the same power is better than a minor one. Especially when villains use it. You'd think they'd use city/country sized blasts if it were that simple so then they can catch their enemies in the explosion.

[RandomGuy96]

They're only different in that they're more powerful. At the level of, say, the Ginyu Force, it doesn't matter whether or not they're using a regular ki blast or a special, amplified attack. Vegeta's Galick Gun, with a power of 24,000, could destroy the Earth. The ONLY thing preventing Earth from being destroyed every time someone throws a punch or blast is that the fighters willingly condense their attacks for more effectiveness, letting the energy only harm the target in a very small area.

How is condensing making anything more effective? A larger blast radius with the same power is better than a minor one. Especially when villains use it. You'd think they'd use city/country sized blasts if it were that simple so then they can catch their enemies in the explosion.

Because that wouldn't be as effective. It's the difference between being under rain and getting sprayed with a fire hose.

[dbzfan7]

They're only different in that they're more powerful. At the level of, say, the Ginyu Force, it doesn't matter whether or not they're using a regular ki blast or a special, amplified attack. Vegeta's Galick Gun, with a power of 24,000, could destroy the Earth. The ONLY thing preventing Earth from being destroyed every time someone throws a punch or blast is that the fighters willingly condense their attacks for more effectiveness, letting the energy only harm the target in a very small area.

How is condensing making anything more effective? A larger blast radius with the same power is better than a minor one. Especially when villains use it. You'd think they'd use city/country sized blasts if it were that simple so then they can catch their enemies in the explosion.

Because that wouldn't be as effective. It's the difference between being under rain and getting sprayed with a fire hose.

Considering how most minor ki blasts are used mostly for keeping the pressure on someone rather than being a big finish, it'd probably be better to not condense your attacks so the opponent has less room to move. Especially if you can fire said blasts in succession, you can light up countries all over the place rather than condensing a blast that almost always misses. A spread out ki blast from higher power levels would devastate.

[RandomGuy96]

Apparently not, since it is rarely done. The opponent has the WHOLE PLANET to evade after all. Do you remember what Raditz said about the SBC and Kamehameha?

[dbzfan7]

Apparently not, since it is rarely done. The opponent has the WHOLE PLANET to evade after all. Do you remember what Raditz said about the SBC and Kamehameha?

Is anyone even fast enough to dodge that kind of fire...I dunno. Everyone is almost always confined to a single canyon, so nuke the damn canyon with heavy blasts a ton of times.

[RandomGuy96]

That would probably waste a lot of ki while not doing much damage. If you spread a Kamehameha out to cover 100 times its usual area with the same actual power, it will likely not be that strong. The same damage is stretched ridiculously.

[dbzfan7]

That would probably waste a lot of ki while not doing much damage. If you spread a Kamehameha out to cover 100 times its usual area with the same actual power, it will likely not be that strong. The same damage is stretched ridiculously.

It's using the same amount of ki without taking the time to condense it. These are for minor attacks mainly used to slow down and chip away at vitality, rather than finish someone off. I think it takes more effort to condense over to just let loose with the explosions. Firing city nuking blasts that Daimao does should be easy for people way above him, yet no one does that.

Also didn't Piccolo casually destroy the moon? Why don't all the bad guys just casually use that destructive power, like they care about the planets well being.

[xmysticgohanx]

That would probably waste a lot of ki while not doing much damage. If you spread a Kamehameha out to cover 100 times its usual area with the same actual power, it will likely not be that strong. The same damage is stretched ridiculously.

It's using the same amount of ki without taking the time to condense it. These are for minor attacks mainly used to slow down and chip away at vitality, rather than finish someone off. I think it takes more effort to condense over to just let loose with the explosions. Firing city nuking blasts that Daimao does should be easy for people way above him, yet no one does that.

Also didn't Piccolo casually destroy the moon? Why don't all the bad guys just casually use that destructive power, like they care about the planets well being.

Think about it, a ki blast with an explosion that spreads out over 100m or whatever, would use more energy than a ki blast spread out over 10m even though they both have the same destructive energy.

[dbzfan7]

That would probably waste a lot of ki while not doing much damage. If you spread a Kamehameha out to cover 100 times its usual area with the same actual power, it will likely not be that strong. The same damage is stretched ridiculously.

It's using the same amount of ki without taking the time to condense it. These are for minor attacks mainly used to slow down and chip away at vitality, rather than finish someone off. I think it takes more effort to condense over to just let loose with the explosions. Firing city nuking blasts that Daimao does should be easy for people way above him, yet no one does that.

Also didn't Piccolo casually destroy the moon? Why don't all the bad guys just casually use that destructive power, like they care about the planets well being.

Think about it, a ki blast with an explosion that spreads out over 100m or whatever, would use more energy than a ki blast spread out over 10m even though they both have the same destructive energy.

No it wouldn't. It takes more control and effort to condense a ki attack then to just let your blasts run wild without effort. Again I point out that Piccolo casually busted the moon, so anyone way stronger should be able to throw moon busting destruction all over earth with barely any strain at all.