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dbzfan7 · Post by **dbzfan7** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:55 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:This is gonna be BS, isn't it?

Let's check the bullshit meter shall we?

Mmmm....nutty too.

SilverArmada · Post by **SilverArmada** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:40 pm

Seriously... how is he going to magically get SSJ3? What reasonable explanation could there be for that? -_-

Perhaps we'll all be surprised when Cell Jr wins, who knows?

Doctor. · Post by **Doctor.** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:41 pm

Welp.

I'm not liking this.

Lozjudai · Post by **Lozjudai** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:59 pm

Well this is coming out of nowhere.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:01 pm

SilverArmada wrote:Seriously... how is he going to magically get SSJ3? What reasonable explanation could there be for that? -_-

Perhaps we'll all be surprised when Cell Jr wins, who knows?

Maybe he really got a wish of immortality in his universe, so when he trained it was like he had a dead body like Goku's?

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:37 pm

Okay, uhh it's already a stretch that U13 Vegeta even has SSJ2, considering that unlike the canon universe, Vegeta wouldn't have found anyone to challenge him, or even make him believe there is a higher level than SSJ1, unlike U3 Bardock who had an enemy to destroy but hasn't been able to go further. and oh hey he is gravely injured, so he should be losing energy, and powering up should make him even worst. Oh and third, U18 Goku learned SSJ3 after being dead for seven years. U18 Vegeta's new form he achieved training for 10+ years. How is U13 Vegeta going to achieve another level on the fly?????

Fionordequester · Post by **Fionordequester** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:42 pm

I'm not going to call shenanigan's until I actually see SSJ3 come out, but if it does...I have to be honest, THAT would be completely stupid

...

Course, then again, I actually want Raichi to win. Because...

1) He's a better person. Racist as all get-out, cold and aloof, and consumed by revenge, sure, but otherwise, he doesn't seem so bad. I mean hey, he has a reason at least.

2) He's the more interesting character, as you wonder if and how he might change. You don't often see a guy like him in DBZ besides, so he brings an interesting dynamic. Plus, he can do more than pump up his muscles.

3) I want to see if Tapion reacts in any way to some of the dirty tactics he's using (using Pan, a mere child, as live bait, having her sit on top of the same guy that killed her, having Vegeta fight his own race...)

4) After the amazing strategy he displayed in this fight, he frankly deserves to win.

SSJ God Gogeta · Post by **SSJ God Gogeta** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:59 pm

I just really want Vegeta to win. I feel another fight with Raichi will just be a repeat of this one as in Raichi calls in his ghosts and they all get destroyed I find that boring. But in the end I could care less all I am waiting for is the next fight with Cell.

testing223 · Post by **testing223** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:14 pm

FoolsGil wrote:Okay, uhh it's already a stretch that U13 Vegeta even has SSJ2, considering that unlike the canon universe, Vegeta wouldn't have found anyone to challenge him, or even make him believe there is a higher level than SSJ1

What about Broly or Dabura?

sorry for my poor english

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:21 pm

I want Raichi to win. But besides that, if he actually goes SSJ3 that's basically jumping the shark for DMB as far as I'm concerned.

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:23 pm

testing223 wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:Okay, uhh it's already a stretch that U13 Vegeta even has SSJ2, considering that unlike the canon universe, Vegeta wouldn't have found anyone to challenge him, or even make him believe there is a higher level than SSJ1
What about Broly or Dabura?

Forgot about them, never mind then.

testing223 · Post by **testing223** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:28 pm

Why is everyone mad about Vegeta maybe learning SSJ3 from watching the other SSj3??

Gotenks did that in the canon universe so it is already normal to learn ssj3 that way??

Vegeta is smarter than Gotenks yes??

sorry for my poor english.

SSJ God Gogeta · Post by **SSJ God Gogeta** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:32 pm

testing223 wrote:Why is everyone mad about Vegeta maybe learning SSJ3 from watching the other SSj3??

Gotenks did that in the canon universe so it is already normal to learn ssj3 that way??

Vegeta is smarter than Gotenks yes??

sorry for my poor english.

A lot of people just don't like Vegeta. As for raichi I never knew he had such a big fan base.....

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:12 pm

testing223 wrote:Why is everyone mad about Vegeta maybe learning SSJ3 from watching the other SSj3??

Gotenks did that in the canon universe so it is already normal to learn ssj3 that way??

Vegeta is smarter than Gotenks yes??

Gotenks was a fusion. The rules have been thrown out the window when two people become one.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:43 pm

Not saying it's not sorta bulls**t, but it does kind of fit in with my theory that Super Saiyan forms are far easier to achieve one you've witnessed someone else in them.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:53 pm

I'm going to hold off on calling BS on Vegeta's presumed imminent Super Saiyan 3 until we find out if it lets him win the match or not. We could see a tragic angle where Vegeta DOES reach the form, its newness and his injuries cause him to lose it before he can win the match.

Like, maybe he gets to launch one big attach at Lychee, but the Cell Junior jumps in and takes it for him. Then Vegeta falls down unconscious (or dead) and Lychee is declared the winner (and maybe gets himself a new ghost warrior).

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:55 pm

Kaboom wrote:I'm going to hold off on calling BS on Vegeta's presumed imminent Super Saiyan 3 until we find out if it lets him win the match or not. We could see a tragic angle where Vegeta DOES reach the form, its newness and his injuries cause him to lose it before he can win the match.

Like, maybe he gets to launch one big attach at Lychee, but the Cell Junior jumps in and takes it for him. Then Vegeta falls down unconscious (or dead) and Lychee is declared the winner.

I'd still think it'd be total BS if he got SS3 even if he still lost. SS3 is obtained through training. It is not something you pull out of nowhere in a rage. That's what makes it unique compared to the other two main forms. If it was just a matter of getting pissed off when you're getting beaten up, Vegeta would have transformed against tons-of-fun, or at the very least against Pure Buu. Even disregarding that, it'd just be a really bad and nonsensical piece of 'fanon' (like the stupid "these guys are adults so now Super Gotenks is as strong as Super Vegetto" thing, Super Saiyan levels being "tiers", more powerful SS3s losing the form quicker even though Gotenks was ENORMOUSLY stronger than Goku and kept the form as long as him or longer in the manga, etc.). Also, if he's strong enough to survive getting hit even once by the Super Cell Jr, he'd one-shot him with a simple kick as a SS3.

I'm not saying that he will transform, as I don't think Salagir is that dumb, but that's what I'd think.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:19 am

testing223 wrote:Why is everyone mad about Vegeta maybe learning SSJ3 from watching the other SSj3??

Gotenks did that in the canon universe so it is already normal to learn ssj3 that way??

Vegeta is smarter than Gotenks yes??

sorry for my poor english.

Because the Vegeta we know never got SSJ3 even after training for years.

It took Goku training for 7 years while in the afterlife to get SSJ3. How could this Vegeta, who is weaker, get it out of nowhere? If it was this easy, our own Vegeta would have gotten it while fighting Fat Buu instead of self destructing. SSJ3 is something acquired through training.

This is like if Goku got mad and suddenly learned how to do Kaio Ken from it.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:26 am

Who said SSJ3 can only be unlocked through training? Goku unlocked SSJ1 through intense rage, yet Vegeta unlocked it through training. Why couldn't it go the other way around for SSJ3?

SSJ forms are natural aspects of Saiyans, they're not techniques like Kaio Ken that someone had to invent.

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:54 am

mAcChaos wrote:
testing223 wrote:Why is everyone mad about Vegeta maybe learning SSJ3 from watching the other SSj3??

Gotenks did that in the canon universe so it is already normal to learn ssj3 that way??

Vegeta is smarter than Gotenks yes??

sorry for my poor english.
Because the Vegeta we know never got SSJ3 even after training for years.

It took Goku training for 7 years while in the afterlife to get SSJ3. How could this Vegeta, who is weaker, get it out of nowhere? If it was this easy, our own Vegeta would have gotten it while fighting Fat Buu instead of self destructing. SSJ3 is something acquired through training.

This is like if Goku got mad and suddenly learned how to do Kaio Ken from it.

I'm waiting to see if we get a explanation on how he got it after he goes SSJ3. We see Rou Kaioshin say no but something else may have happened that we havent seen yet.

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