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Theotetical Question (Buu vs. Cell)

Post by Perfect Weapon » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:13 pm

Majin Buu (Kid Buu) Vs. Super Perfect Cell.

One stipulation.

Dead equal powers.

If this is a permissable topic, I'll add my thoughts in after I see some replies. =/

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Post by Magica » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:25 pm

So... what's the question? Who's stronger, or what?

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Post by Jerseymilk » Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:49 pm

I'm still trying to figure out what "theotetical" means. :P
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Post by Kaboom » Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:54 pm

Kid Buu vs Super Perfect Cell? At equal power?

I say Cell.

Why?

Because Kid Buu's got the IQ of a clam.

Cell doesn't.
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Post by Victator Supreme » Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:54 pm

Thats not true. Kid Buu is manaical, but still intelligent. He showed it when he went to where Vegeta was at before Goku launched the spirit bomb.

He was smart enough to remove the good Buu from his being realising it was a hinderence. He quickly destroyed the Earth in an attempt to destroy Goku and Vegeta, and found them rather quickly.

Cell is a popmpus ass. He would underestimate Buu and be decimated. Buu's key advantage would be his regeneration abilities are far greater than Cell's. Cell would be incapable of creating an attack powerful enough to destroy Buu. His spirit bomb would definately not be enough. It took Goku two (maybe three) planets and the population of Earth to destroy Buu.
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Post by Kaboom » Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:23 pm

I was just trying to be funny.

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Post by Rocketman » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:00 pm

Buu can regenerate from dust. Cell can't win.

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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:33 pm

Perfect Weapon wrote:Majin Buu (Kid Buu) Vs. Super Perfect Cell.

One stipulation.

Dead equal powers.
Huh?

Hmm. I like a "what if" now and then, but I'm not sure I understand the point of this one. Call me wrong if in fact I am-- and maybe I am-- but "Who Would Win?" hypotheticals have never been productive topics. Even when we do find something that's inherently intriguing or "debatable" like, say, Vegetto vs. Gogeta, it's hard to stretch it into anything other than a battle picked straight out of the air for no reason other than to argue over theories and answers that are near-impossible to validate. Often the topic strays, and even when it doesn't it can just as easily lead to arguing and petty bickering all the same.

Don't misunderstand: I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. It's just that I always thought that dream matches of this sort were what the video games are for.

But if VegettoEX doesn't have a problem with it, then eh . . .
Rocketman wrote:Buu can regenerate from dust. Cell can't win.
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Post by wannywan » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:24 pm

Not to continue the debate but...

Is it ever stated how big Cell's 'core' or 'nucleus' actually is?

If it's a single cell or a cluster of a few cells, would that not be smaller than a grain of dust?
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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:27 pm

Chibi Buu vs. Complete Cell if their powers were equal. Hmm.
...

Well, let's point out their features.

Complete Cell
Regenerate
Most techniques
Get stronger after near death exp.
Is cocky at times

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Regenerate
Can see a move and do it
Get stronger after near death exp.
Is insane. One more time- insane.

I think Buu would win for a couple of reasons. Buu is relentless. He doesn't really give a damn about having fun, at least that Buu doesn't. Cell gave the heroes nine(?) days to prepare for the Cell Games. Buu gave the heroes nine seconds to get the hell out of there. Cell was so sure of his power and hardly fought seriously until he was backed into a corner. Buu fought cocky but at the same time still absorbed people. Cell could regenerate but that takes ki. Buu rengerated many times and only got tired after fighting one another. Buu would definately win IMO.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:04 pm

The thing about Kid Buu was also he was pure rage and destruction without reason holding him back. That's what made him so dangerous.

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Post by Kaboom » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:37 pm

I just thought of this. It's unlikely that Buu would be able to kill Cell in one shot. They both have amazing regenerative abilities, neither's too much superior to the other's, and the battle would drag on for a long time, with neither of them ending up with permanent damage. They would both get screwed up pretty badly at points, but their resilience would allow them to bounce back to near full power each time they regenerate.

However, only one of them gets a (pardon the fanon term, please) zenkai each time they regenerate.

Is Kid Buu insane and relentless? Is he capable of telling how strong someone is and matching them, so long as he has the power to? Yes. But really, I don't think he'd be bright enough to tell if Cell had a strategy. I can imagine Cell, once realizing that he can't take out Buu on equal grounds, stalling and staying on the defensive, while not wasting ki. He'd allow himself to take certain amounts of damage at a time, even getting blown up, in order to get close to death and get himself a power boost from regenerating, which he'd supress to keep Buu from sensing it. He'd then be at least a little stronger than Buu. Repeat this a few times, and one of two things could happen.

1) Cell ends up with enough power to completely obliterate Buu, dust remnants and all,

or...

2) Buu realizes Cell's stronger than him, and either absorbs him or eats him.

But that's just my idea.

...

...Buu'd probably win.
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Post by Stoney » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:20 am

I used to hate topics like this but when it's equal power it can become interesting because it then means who is the better fighter or who has the best moves. Cell must be a fighting genious, he knows the techniques of the Z fighters so he may have all of their fighting knowledge. Although there is no proof of this.
Buu on the other hand can regenerate from just about anything.

About a year ago I could have answered it with a clear answer but I'm so rusty when it comes to DB at the moment.

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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:35 am

I'm totally OK with the majority of the posts in this thread so-far, so if you all can continue to have an actual discussion with posts that aren't "OMG liK3 HeZ Str0onGer!!!1"... it's OK :). Because, as you know, vs. topics don't tend to last very long...
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Post by Stoney » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:45 am

They do when you have a tournament in which every member nominates two characters. It goes in rounds like the tenkaichi budokai and every character is at equal power. It got very interesting but we were never able to finish that.


One question about this fight though, it starts out at equal power right? Well if Cell gets beat down pretty bad and regenerates he recieves a zenkai. Is that allowed?

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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:48 am

Stoney wrote:They do when you have a tournament in which every member nominates two characters. It goes in rounds like the tenkaichi budokai and every character is at equal power. It got very interesting but we were never able to finish that.


One question about this fight though, it starts out at equal power right? Well if Cell gets beat down pretty bad and regenerates he recieves a zenkai. Is that allowed?
I'm sure that is allowed if Buu is allowed to absorb him. :P But then again what is really allowed, they are super villians and like Cartman would say "Whateva, whateva, I'll do what I want."
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Post by Godo » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:18 pm

If Cell absorbed Buu, he'd probably not be digested. Buu is magical, he's probably kill Cell from inside.

One thought, what if Cell performs a Genki Dama, and puts almost all power he has in it? And then power from all the solar system and beyond?

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:05 pm

Godo wrote:If Cell absorbed Buu, he'd probably not be digested. Buu is magical, he's probably kill Cell from inside.

One thought, what if Cell performs a Genki Dama, and puts almost all power he has in it? And then power from all the solar system and beyond?
Would Cell be able to charge the Spirit Bomb in time, though? He wouldn't have teammates to stall Buu. Except the Cell Jrs, but they aren't very strong.

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Post by Conan the SSJ » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:33 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:It took Goku two (maybe three) planets and the population of Earth to destroy Buu.
Let's see: Earth (every living being there), Namek (all Namekians along with the Kaioshins), and Enma's check-in station. 2-and-a-half? Needless to say, it was really impressive how Kid Buu was still able to hold off Goku's Super Genki-dama. I kind of wonder if Goku really was out of all power, I mean he was still flying (an ability he never gained till right before he defeated Piccolo at the 23rd Budokai). Maybe Toriyama-san was looking for an excuse on using Porunga's third wish?

Anywho, on topic! If ever Cell and Kid Buu were equal, it all comes down to: Cell is smarter, Kid Buu is more unrestrained (I.E., ready to destroy an entire planet in a second). My best bet, they'd end up fighting in outer space until Cell exausts his power and Buu can take advantage. Aw hell, if anyone wants to know who'd win, pit them against each other (COM Vs. COM) in one of the Budokai games (maximum health bar with each having breakthrough); if anyone makes a YouTube vid out of that, you get this bag of oreos from Shenlong. :)
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Post by Drunken Master » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:58 pm

Pit Boo against ANYONE at equal powers, and he'll win everytime. It's because he's made so invincible.

1. He can learn any attack by seeing it once
2. Pretty much unlimited amount of ki
3. Super regeneration
4. Easy absorbtion


Cell is much cooler than Buu IMO, but Boo is too damn cheap.
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