Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[dbgtFO]

"You give yourself airs,"
?
I think I have an idea of what he means, but it should be different than this.

In any case obviously Gast was too much for Piccolo.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Oh snap!
Shit just got real.

[rereboy]

"You give yourself airs,"
?
I think I have an idea of what he means, but it should be different than this.

In any case obviously Gast was too much for Piccolo.

Its something like "you try to act the part".

[dbgtFO]

"You give yourself airs,"
?
I think I have an idea of what he means, but it should be different than this.

In any case obviously Gast was too much for Piccolo.

Its something like "you try to act the part".

Ah yes that sounds much better.

[ParkerAL]

One thing that always stood out to me with Dragon Multiverse was how stilted the dialogue can sound at times, at least in the English version. Obviously, I know it's translated from French -a language I have no practical knowledge of- but they could still make an effort to have it read more naturally in English.

For instance:

Gast: "For a Namek, you are very powerful. Bravo. But my power is beyond even yours. You don't stand a chance. And as far as your claim of being a demon, you delude yourself. There are far worse here.

Gast: "We are surrounded by remorseless criminals. But you... you're inhabited by kindness and love for others."

Piccolo: "What are you talking about, fool! I slaughter humans by the dozen every day just for fun! Not even half of Earth's population remains in my universe."

Gast: "You give yourself airs, but you are not that evil. The two robots there killed them all. They really hate humans."

I kept "give yourself airs" as is, because it is a valid English idiom.

Anyway, great artwork as always. It seems Kami did mellow this Piccolo out a bit.

[dbzfan7]

Why? Kami knew that Piccolo would be influenced by him after their fusion. If he couldn't or didn't have the time to come up with a better solution for Piccolo (like your Rosat idea), fusion had a good chance of eventually making Piccolo be not as bad as he was or even not bad at all, which would save the planet.

A possible scenario for this is an enemy coming to Earth more powerful than Kami and Piccolo and determined to destroy the planet. In this scenario, fusion between them would create an opponent stronger than the invader, saving Earth, and it had a good chance of making Piccolo less evil and eventually not bad, so it would definitely be a very good idea.

Also, Kami says more than once that he can't commit suicide (kill Piccolo). So, even if Goku hadn't stopped him, I have my doubts that he would have actually been able to kill him.

Either way it wouldn't matter. Both results lead to the same end. People die or get terrorized. If anything he should just have just sealed Piccolo in the ROSAT. Besides a fusion would not turn him good, it would only slightly effect Daimao as Daimao is the base. So it's a stupid idea. Also how did he know they could fuse? Piccolo didn't know til Namek. Did God know this ability even beforehand?

For all you know, Piccolo might enjoy those kind of games and takes sick pleasure in announcing them and fulfilling them to the letter. Also, for all you know, Piccolo might enjoy taking his sweet time killing humans and letting them leave in despair, so letting them rebuild so that sometime in the future he can destroy that area again in that game of chance of his might be what he prefers.

Also, I'm sure that a lot of people would greatly prefer to live longer, even if in fear, than being killed quickly, so that's completely subjective.

Who says the people will even bother doing that? It'll just be destroy by Piccolo, or one of his minions. Piccolo's Mazoku would just roam the earth eventually and pick up the scraps.

While true, it's still in a way worse than just have the saiyans put an end to it all.

[TonyTheTiger]

Is Gast seriously saying that Daimao isn't that evil since he didn't kill all the humans?

[dbzfan7]

Is Gast seriously saying that Daimao isn't that evil since he didn't kill all the humans?

He's only mostly evil...just like someone can be mostly dead.

[DNA]

Killing all humans versus leaving a bunch so you can slowly terrorize. Yup, Daimao is certainly less evil. *cough*shittywriting*cough*

[KentalSSJ6]

Killing all humans versus leaving a bunch so you can slowly terrorize. Yup, Daimao is certainly less evil. *cough*shittywriting*cough*

[dbzfan7]

Killing all humans versus leaving a bunch so you can slowly terrorize. Yup, Daimao is certainly less evil. *cough*shittywriting*cough*

I just saw that gif on a comicvine debate . I saved it via notepad so I could use it at some point.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I think you guys are taking his words a bit too literally, or at face value, or whatever. Daimao killing people? That's bad, yeah. Nobody's denying that. But he, apparently, hasn't actually driven humanity to extinction...something that would be a lot worse than just killing a bunch of people. That's the point he's trying to make.

Granted, I'm betting there's more to it than that since this Daimao is mostly just Piccolo now anyway, but eh.

[Pantalones]

"You give yourself airs,"
?
I think I have an idea of what he means, but it should be different than this.

I know "putting on airs" is a phrase that seems to mean basically what Gast is saying that Daimao is doing (faking, exaggerating, trying to make yourself out to be a bigger deal than you really are. Basically Daimao's trying to keep up this "big bad demon king" image... even when on the inside he's already changed/changing from his old pure-evil self.)

I guess I'd translate the first part of that line as "You're putting on airs" here, sounds less awkward at least. I've never heard this phrased as "giving yourself airs" before--maybe it's a "literal translation from the way it's worded in French" issue? Or an older/more obscure/slangier version of the same phrase, maybe...

[Kamiccolo9]

I guess I'd translate the first part of that line as "You're putting on airs" here, sounds less awkward at least. I've never heard this phrased as "giving yourself airs" before--maybe it's a "literal translation from the way it's worded in French" issue? Or an older/more obscure/slangier version of the same phrase, maybe...

It's a valid phrase. The wording is a bit archaic, but I'm not familiar enough with Gast to know whether or not that fits the character.

[UltimateHammerBro]

It seems that the chapter title was about what we thought.
The original French sentence is a bit ambiguous, but at the end it meant "we have this absolutely evil guy whose evil has been corrupted so he isn't absolutely evil anymore".

[rereboy]

Is Gast seriously saying that Daimao isn't that evil since he didn't kill all the humans?

Killing all humans versus leaving a bunch so you can slowly terrorize. Yup, Daimao is certainly less evil. *cough*shittywriting*cough*

C'mon guys... Piccolo said that he was ABSOLUTE evil. Gast is simply saying that he's not THAT bad because there's worse out there and because he can feel good/Kami in him. Mentioning that he didn't kill all humans becomes relevant because Gast suspects that he didn't kill them all in all these years because of the good/Kami in him.

[Marco Polo]

Daimao is not evil, he just seeks acceptance by others because he grew up alone without Love and without friends, and achieving the title of "Great Demon King" is the only way he found to at least become someone because the bad humans were racists against him when he was a kid and called him a demon and a freak of nature

[rereboy]

Either way it wouldn't matter. Both results lead to the same end. People die or get terrorized. If anything he should just have just sealed Piccolo in the ROSAT. Besides a fusion would not turn him good, it would only slightly effect Daimao as Daimao is the base. So it's a stupid idea. Also how did he know they could fuse? Piccolo didn't know til Namek. Did God know this ability even beforehand?

So letting an enemy destroy Earth instead of doing this plan is stupid, even though, at worst, the plan would give more time for people to live? Ok... Now you are not thinking logically.

We have no idea if he knew or not. This fan manga assumes that he did and there's nothing really contradicting that anywhere, so its a valid assumption.

Who says the people will even bother doing that? It'll just be destroy by Piccolo, or one of his minions. Piccolo's Mazoku would just roam the earth eventually and pick up the scraps.

While true, it's still in a way worse than just have the saiyans put an end to it all.

Because the other option is basically sit down and wait to die. Most people will try to live and build houses to live and have shelter, etc.

And as I've said, its completely subjective whether being killed right away is better or not. Maybe for you it would be, but for another person it might not.

Daimao is not evil, he just seeks acceptance by others because he grew up alone without Love and without friends, and achieving the title of "Great Demon King" is the only way he found to at least become someone because the bad humans were racists against him when he was a kid and called him a demon and a freak of nature

Those are the basic reasons why evil infected the Nameless Namek, but Piccolo, the evil part of him, is definitely totally evil. The reason why this Piccolo is not completely evil is just because he is basically the Nameless Namek again, with good in him besides evil.

[dbzfan7]

So letting an enemy destroy Earth instead of doing this plan is stupid, even though, at worst, the plan would give more time for people to live? Ok... Now you are not thinking logically.

We have no idea if he knew or not. This fan manga assumes that he did and there's nothing really contradicting that anywhere, so its a valid assumption.

Oh yeah, getting to live in a hellish world, or dying by the hands of a Saiyan. Yeah it's so logical for everyone to want to live in a hellish world that would seemingly have no end. Some people would while others wouldn't. It is a stupid plan as your just saving people to be killed later. It accomplished nothing. Woohoo I get to live the rest of my life in fear and misery...yeah..so worth it. Also there's the whole being killed by a Mazoku keeps your soul in the living world to suffer for eternity.

Because the other option is basically sit down and wait to die. Most people will try to live and build houses to live and have shelter, etc.

And as I've said, its completely subjective whether being killed right away is better or not. Maybe for you it would be, but for another person it might not.

They could only rebuild in a secret location or somewhere not in plain sight. Even then there's the Mazoku who'd probably speed up the process and go about killing all they see. If your killed by a Mazoku you also don't go to the afterlife, but your soul suffers in the living world.....so yeah....have a peaceful afterlife when you eventually die, or get killed by the Mazoku and suffer for all eternity.

[rereboy]

Oh yeah, getting to live in a hellish world, or dying by the hands of a Saiyan. Yeah it's so logical for everyone to want to live in a hellish world that would seemingly have no end.

You obviously fail to understand what subjective means and that people are not bound to your opinion on what would be best and that many would prefer life over death even in horrible conditions, despite the several times I've mentioned that to you. As such, there's no point in continuing the discussion.