So under the assumption the characters cannot beat their opponents without transformations how is the estimated comparison?
Whis
Beerus
Goku after ritual (absorbs the power so I count him)
Oob (potentially; does not need any ritual and a special state to stay in or transformation for that so I count him)
Boo
Kaioshin ? or Piccolo's area depending on what is actually meant/Dabra
16, Cell 1st form (maybe later Piccolo and 18 here as well, maybe even stronger)
Piccolo
C18/17
Cell 1st form battle 1
19, C20
Freezer
Cold
Goku (not SSJ, no Kaioken) before ritual > Vegeta (not SSJ) > Gohan (not SSJ/Ultimate), et cetera.
Well, with that whole base form stuff and Kaioshin being so impressed by Vegeta and Goku even though he was all like "I am so pro I can beat Freezer with one hit" I think this is very weird. In a way it fits but ... hm ...
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