Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[ChahikoDBZ]

Finally that Pan is back. She was missed. Like someone else already mentioned, I'm curious how Vegeta and Bojack and whoever else will deal with their defeats. Especially Vegeta.

[Skar]

All I can notice is that Bra is too small.

I have to admit I lol'd . No matter how nicely drawn the page is there always has to be some flaw. Looking back she is slightly shorter than she was on Page 48 but since there's no official height for her that I'm aware of it's possible the new artist was off by a few centimeters. I honestly didn't notice until I read your comment but when you say that it's all you noticed it leads me to believe you're putting in effort to find something wrong with the page to criticize.

[RandomGuy96]

All I can notice is that Bra is too small.

I have to admit I lol'd . No matter how nicely drawn the page is there always has to be some flaw. Looking back she is slightly shorter than she was on Page 48 but since there's no official height for her that I'm aware of it's possible the new artist was off by a few centimeters. I honestly didn't notice until I read your comment but when you say that it's all you noticed it leads me to believe you're putting in effort to find something wrong with the page to criticize.

She's not just a little bit shorter. She's a head shorter than 5'7 Trunks and at Vegetto's chest, even though she has the 'camera' advantage on both of them, especially the former. On page 48, she was up to Vegetto's nose despite standing way in the background. She's the size of a child on this page. It's a difference of a couple dozen centimeters, not just a few.

Trust me, I don't need to put in effort to find things wrong with this comic. I've just avoided commenting on the recent pages because nothing in them has been interesting, while huge contradictions bug me.

[TonyTheTiger]

I think I may go so far as to say Asura is hands down the best Dragon Ball artist since Akira Toriyama himself.

[Scarz]

I hope they brought them back to rub their losses in their worthless faces...

...What?! Why else would they bring them back so early? So they can watch the finals? Pffffffftttttt!

[Dbzfan94]

What if they have a sub tournament for all the ones that died. Whoever loses...dies again!

[Skar]

She's not just a little bit shorter. She's a head shorter than 5'7 Trunks and at Vegetto's chest, even though she has the 'camera' advantage on both of them, especially the former. On page 48, she was up to Vegetto's nose despite standing way in the background. She's the size of a child on this page. It's a difference of a couple dozen centimeters, not just a few.

Trust me, I don't need to put in effort to find things wrong with this comic. I've just avoided commenting on the recent pages because nothing in them has been interesting, while huge contradictions bug me.

Yes she was shorter here but I took into consideration that it was a different artist who didn't check everyone's exact height before drawing a group picture so it was overlooked. I'm sure if it was pointed out to Asura beforehand then they would've had no problem correcting it since it has nothing to do with the story.

And yes it does seem you go out of your way to find something to criticize. Since I started coming here I honestly don't remember you ever saying anything good about the comic. You're saying here that you kept silent the past few pages because they didn't interest you and apparently the only thing that sparked your interest this page was Bra's height. If she was drawn at the correct height would you have said anything good about the page or waited until you found a flaw in a future page?

[RandomGuy96]

She's not just a little bit shorter. She's a head shorter than 5'7 Trunks and at Vegetto's chest, even though she has the 'camera' advantage on both of them, especially the former. On page 48, she was up to Vegetto's nose despite standing way in the background. She's the size of a child on this page. It's a difference of a couple dozen centimeters, not just a few.

Trust me, I don't need to put in effort to find things wrong with this comic. I've just avoided commenting on the recent pages because nothing in them has been interesting, while huge contradictions bug me.

Yes she was shorter here but I took into consideration that it was a different artist who didn't check everyone's exact height before drawing a group picture so it was overlooked. I'm sure if it was pointed out to Asura beforehand then they would've had no problem correcting it since it has nothing to do with the story.

And yes it does seem you go out of your way to find something to criticize. Since I started coming here I honestly don't remember you ever saying anything good about the comic. You're saying here that you kept silent the past few pages because they didn't interest you and apparently the only thing that sparked your interest this page was Bra's height. If she was drawn at the correct height would you have said anything good about the page or waited until you found a flaw in a future page?

There's a difference between "not knowing exact heights" and "drawing an adult as being the size of a child".

I have said nice things. I've probably been far too generous towards the comic, if anything. If she was drawn at the correct height, I wouldn't have said anything, because otherwise there's nothing that I think is worth commenting on in this page.

[dbzfan7]

Not gonna care for that special at all, but as long as Asura sticks around for main artist which the site seems to suggest, then things will consistently look good, even if other stuff is questionable.

[Marco Polo]

I think I may go so far as to say Asura is hands down the best Dragon Ball artist since Akira Toriyama himself.

lol not even close. Gogeta Jr had much better designs (the hair for example), crispier lineart and more dynamic fight angles. Just re-read Chapter 9.

Also RandomGuy96 must have hated the official manga because character's heights were constantly inconsistent too.

[TrunksTrevelyan0064]

It should be amusing to see what Butta will do, now that he'll know he was murdered by Freeza.

[rereboy]

Also RandomGuy96 must have hated the official manga because character's heights were constantly inconsistent too.

This. I agree with this.

I disagree with Gogeta Jr's art being superior to Asura's, though.

[RandomGuy96]

Also RandomGuy96 must have hated the official manga because character's heights were constantly inconsistent too.

That always bugged me, yeah.

[Skar]

There's a difference between "not knowing exact heights" and "drawing an adult as being the size of a child".

I have said nice things. I've probably been far too generous towards the comic, if anything. If she was drawn at the correct height, I wouldn't have said anything, because otherwise there's nothing that I think is worth commenting on in this page.

How have you been generous towards the comic? By only complaining some of the time ? Sorry I just didn't understand what you meant. There are fans who genuinely enjoy the story so there's no need for anyone to be generous towards it if they don't like it.

I don't remember if it was you but someone was complaining about how King Piccolo could defeat Garlic Jr even when there wasn't a huge gap between them anyway. Then when it was revealed by Asura that it wasn't Garlic Jr on the recent chapter cover that same person said it was "lame". If it was Garlic Jr then it's a stupid idea but if it wasn't then it's also stupid. There's no satisfying that person when it comes to DBM which is why I get the impression that some people go out of their way just to complain. If it's a good page they won't acknowledge it and just wait for the next opportunity to complain. I got that feeling from your comment because that's the only thing you mentioned about the page. You didn't say anything about the quality of the artwork, story, or anything else just that all you noticed was Bra was too short.

[RandomGuy96]

There's a difference between "not knowing exact heights" and "drawing an adult as being the size of a child".

I have said nice things. I've probably been far too generous towards the comic, if anything. If she was drawn at the correct height, I wouldn't have said anything, because otherwise there's nothing that I think is worth commenting on in this page.

How have you been generous towards the comic? By only complaining some of the time ? Sorry I just didn't understand what you meant. There are fans who genuinely enjoy the story so there's no need for anyone to be generous towards it if they don't like it.

I don't remember if it was you but someone was complaining about how King Piccolo could defeat Garlic Jr even when there wasn't a huge gap between them anyway. Then when it was revealed by Asura that it wasn't Garlic Jr on the recent chapter cover that same person said it was "lame". If it was Garlic Jr then it's a stupid idea but if it wasn't then it's also stupid. There's no satisfying that person when it comes to DBM which is why I get the impression that some people go out of their way just to complain. If it's a good page they won't acknowledge it and just wait for the next opportunity to complain. I got that feeling from your comment because that's the only thing you mentioned about the page. You didn't say anything about the quality of the artwork, story, or anything else just that all you noticed was Bra was too short.

I've ignored several major problems and given it probably a higher rating than I should have when we were discussing our general thoughts on the comic. I've also avoided pressing certain points because it would clog this thread (again). So yes, too generous.

That wasn't me. I just assumed that Daimao had gotten stronger somehow, they teamed up based on their hatred of Kami, or it just wasn't Garlic Jr. I did say that the guy on the cover not being Garlic Jr. was lame, though, because I would have liked to see how he interacted with Daimao. Then, in reply to me saying that it was lame, you immediately started complaining about the fans being unpleasable even though I never indicated that I had any problem with Daimao just getting stronger than Garlic Jr.

There was nothing else to say. The story isn't really moving anywhere, and the art looks the same as it always has, except there was on noticeable error that I found funny: an adult being drawn as child-sized. Do you want me to compliment every single page because the artist is competent?

[rereboy]

These lasts posts were amusing. Personally, someone claiming they are too generous for not complaining as much as they could possibly complain, even though their interventions are hardly anything but complaints, doesn't make much sense to me... Especially regarding an amateur created work which is one of the best of its kind... Oh, well..

[Skar]

I've ignored several major problems and given it probably a higher rating than I should have when we were discussing our general thoughts on the comic. I've also avoided pressing certain points because it would clog this thread (again). So yes, too generous.

I don't know if I would consider that generous since I recall you guys being asked to stop those discussions. No reason to give it a higher rating than you think it deserves. It sorta implies that you're not a big fan of the story and just reading it as a favor to the author or to be nice.

That wasn't me. I just assumed that Daimao had gotten stronger somehow, they teamed up based on their hatred of Kami, or it just wasn't Garlic Jr. I did say that the guy on the cover not being Garlic Jr. was lame, though, because I would have liked to see how he interacted with Daimao. Then, in reply to me saying that it was lame, you immediately started complaining about the fans being unpleasable even though I never indicated that I had any problem with Daimao just getting stronger than Garlic Jr.

My apologies then. Since "lame" was an odd response I assumed you were one of the people complaining about him being Garlic Jr.

There was nothing else to say. The story isn't really moving anywhere, and the art looks the same as it always has, except there was on noticeable error that I found funny: an adult being drawn as child-sized. Do you want me to compliment every single page because the artist is competent?

Well no you wouldn't need to compliment every page. You come back every page so it's obvious you're a fan of the comic but it usually helps by saying what you like first before beginning your criticism. The way you said it made it sound like it was the only thing worth mentioning about the page. I can't imagine someone reading a chapter of the Cell or Buu saga and their only concern was that Vegeta had gotten taller.

[RandomGuy96]

I don't know if I would consider that generous since I recall you guys being asked to stop those discussions. No reason to give it a higher rating than you think it deserves. It sorta implies that you're not a big fan of the story and just reading it as a favor to the author or to be nice.

That was long before I was asked to cease any discussion.

Nah, I gave it a higher rating than I think it deserves because I guess I let my mind be clouded and focused only on the good. Mostly, I wasn't considering the specials as much as I should have when giving my opinion. Those are about half the comic, and unlike the main story, which is a mixed bag, the specials are pretty consistently awful. Except for the Bojack special, that's by far the most entertaining part of the entire comic.

My apologies then. Since "lame" was an odd response I assumed you were one of the people complaining about him being Garlic Jr.

Nah, I just thought that it would be cooler if Garlic Jr. was there.

Well no you wouldn't need to compliment every page. You come back every page so it's obvious you're a fan of the comic but it usually helps by saying what you like first before beginning your criticism. The way you said it made it sound like it was the only thing worth mentioning about the page. I can't imagine someone reading a chapter of the Cell or Buu saga and their only concern was that Vegeta had gotten taller.

I comment on things I like whenever they come up. Comments relating to complaints tend to outnumber those however because certain people like to start multi-page arguments about them. That, and I can't simply say "the art is competent" or "the release schedule is consistent" every single page, which are some of the biggest positives of this comic in general. Nothing of interest was actually happening on this page or the last few, so I just pointed out what caught my attention.

[Kingdom Heartless]

I think it's more annoying due to the fact that Toriyama was always incredibly consistent with character heights.

....right?

[Tzigi]

there was on noticeable error that I found funny: an adult being drawn as child-sized.

Just how is a 16-year old an adult? In DBM Bra is two years older then Pan (Bra was born in 778 and Pan was born in 780) and Pan is stated explicitely at the beginning of the novelization to be 14. So it's you who are wrong in claiming she's an adult.
But yeah, her height has changed with the change of the main artist - Asura consistently draws her smaller: