The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hellspawn28]

#13 vs. Metal Coola (Pre-Repairs)

#13 vs. Metal Coola (Post-Repairs)

Who wins? #13 can't transform into Super #13.

[RandomGuy96]

I'm not going to debate about the Boo vs Boo stuff. But like I said, I'm open to the option that the Mr. Boo who popped out of Pure Boo was somehow as strong as his previous pre-split self. If something clarified it that way, I'd be onboard with it instantly. Until then, jury's out.

Feats show him to be stronger than Fat Buu, not equal or weaker. Mr. Buu hit Pure Buu in the face, hurt him, and sent him flying. Fat Buu punched Goku in the face and it did nothing. Based on his fight with Pure Buu- which is the only showing we have for Mr. Buu- he's SS3 tier, easily.

#13 vs. Metal Coola (Pre-Repairs)

#13 vs. Metal Coola (Post-Repairs)

Who wins? #13 can't transform into Super #13.

Metal Cooler lost to android arc SS Goku, while 13 had the upper hand. 13 wins.

Post-repairs Metal Cooler stomped all over android arc SS Goku and android SS Vegeta at the same time. He sat there and let them both hit him in the face and nothing happened. He rips 13 to shreds.

[Hugo Boss]

Feats show him to be stronger than Fat Buu, not equal or weaker. Mr. Buu hit Pure Buu in the face, hurt him, and sent him flying. Fat Buu punched Goku in the face and it did nothing. Based on his fight with Pure Buu- which is the only showing we have for Mr. Buu- he's SS3 tier, easily.

I would put Fat Boo's will into consideration. When he fought Goku it was more like having fun while when fighting Pure Boo he was trying to kill him and protect his friend.

[Nikkolas]

Pirate Robot in the 21st Budokai - who could it beat?

[RandomGuy96]

Pirate Robot in the 21st Budokai - who could it beat?

It has guns, so it probably solos unless Roshi hulks out.

I would put Fat Boo's will into consideration. When he fought Goku it was more like having fun while when fighting Pure Boo he was trying to kill him and protect his friend.

Fat Buu was clearly surprised when his punch did nothing to SS3 Goku. It's never implied that he was just using a fraction of his strength there for no reason. Going by pure feats, we have Mr. Buu putting up a decent fight against Pure Buu, which requires him to be SS3-tier himself, as this is a series where a relatively small difference means you have no chance.

[xmysticgohanx]

Syn Shenron > Beerus because in the gt perfect files, Syn Shrenron is stated to be a galaxy buster.

[RandomGuy96]

Syn Shenron > Beerus because in the gt perfect files, Syn Shrenron is stated to be a galaxy buster.

He is?

[Darkron2151]

SSJ Future Trunks (Androids Saga, pre-ROSAT) VS Piccolo (pre-Kami fusion)

Fight to the death. How easy would it be for Future Trunks to destroy this Piccolo? Would it be a rape stomp?

Pan (End of Z) VS Chiaotzu (End of Z)

During the 28th WMAT

I have the gap between Piccolo and Trunks larger than the one between Freeza and Goku, but not too much. So if Trunks doesn't screw around, he should beat Piccolo fairly easily.

Pan stomps IMO. I have her in the low millions for a couple reasons. Her above-average speed (flying around the planet easily and for many times over), good control over her powers for her age (she didn't accidentally kill Wild Tiger during their match, which is something she should be more than capable of), and for her crazy genetics. Chaozu got left behind during the Android Saga for being too weak and has not been shown to improve since (except Mountain Training with Tenshinhan), and even that shouldn't really yield much. I put him at around 1st Form Freeza level, and even that's being generous.

[Kamiccolo9]

Pan (End of Z) VS Chiaotzu (End of Z)

During the 28th WMAT

Pan gets stomped. She hasn't done anything that Tenshinhan or Chiaotzu from the 22nd Budokai couldn't have done. I put her in the low hundreds, at best. Honestly, she hasn't been shown to be all that much stronger than Videl was.

[Friezacooler]

Golden oozaru GOKU vs Golden oozaru Bebi?

[Darkron2151]

Golden oozaru GOKU vs Golden oozaru Bebi?

SSJ4 Goku had a slight advantage over Oozaru Bebi Vegeta. And as we know, SSJ4 Goku is far superior to Golden Oozaru Goku based on everyone's reaction to not only Goku transforming, but Vegeta transforming as well. Heck, Super Bebi Vegeta didn't even admit inferiority until Goku was beating him senseless with SSJ4. So Bebi stomps hard in this fight.

[Hugo Boss]

Fat Buu was clearly surprised when his punch did nothing to SS3 Goku. It's never implied that he was just using a fraction of his strength there for no reason. Going by pure feats, we have Mr. Buu putting up a decent fight against Pure Buu, which requires him to be SS3-tier himself, as this is a series where a relatively small difference means you have no chance.

Not for no reason, his ki could be influenced by his will or emotions, thus making him stronger without putting that into mind. He was fighting to protect Mr. Satan and that could make a difference.

[Saiga]

I see no reason for Pan to be so weak when Goten and Trunks were so strong from a young age. Just doesn't seem very fair or reasonable.

She's a Saiyan-Earthling hybrid, she could fly around the world, she's been trained by Goku. I think she'd destroy any of the Earthlings at that point, except for an angered Oob.

[xmysticgohanx]

Syn Shenron > Beerus because in the gt perfect files, Syn Shrenron is stated to be a galaxy buster.

He is?

Here: http://dragonballarena.gamesurf.it/imma ... gt-4-5.jpg

Translation not by me:

Spoiler:

syn shenron/ishinlon(text red)

is endowed with an extraordinary destructive force that will cause to destruction of the galaxy.

omega shenron/super ishinlon:

its strength is 10x more potent standard that! in this state can use the skills of all evil dragons, can also cast a sphere of energy, which is negative energy condensed of all the Dragon Balls!

It would help if we had the japanese tho.

[Angelus]

Pan VS Yamcha. Both end of Z.

[Darkron2151]

Pan VS Yamcha. Both end of Z.

I have the gap between the two the same as the gap between Namek SSJ Goku and Freeza, with Pan having the edge. However, I wouldn't count Yamcha out just yet. Even though he showed no signs of training since the Cell arc and has probably gotten rusty (even more so than Buu Saga Gohan), Yamcha still has her beat as far as technique and experience. Heck, if he can hit her with a Spirit Ball, and evade her attacks, he could probably win. I have him winning 3/5 battles.

[White Oni]

Since the "debate" with the same guy popped back up again, I would like it.

Alrighty, so English translation:

Merging With Vegeta!
After Goku and Vegeta use a merging item to merge, they become Vegetto! They can furthermore become a Super Saiyan, making them Super Vegetto! After the two strongest people merge, they become the greatest master in the universe! Perhaps even stronger than Super Saiyan 4!

The above content considered.

End of BoG, Base Goku VS GT ssj4 Goku.

[RandomGuy96]

Pan VS Yamcha. Both end of Z.

Pan eviscerates him. I can't see Pan being many times weaker than Goten and Trunks were at that age, which she'd need to be for Yamcha to have a chance.

[Galan007]

SSJ2 Gohan's 'Cell-buster' Kamehameha vs. ASSJ Vegeta's Final Flash.

[KentalSSJ6]

SSJ2 Gohan's 'Cell-buster' Kamehameha vs. ASSJ Vegeta's Final Flash.

The Final Flash only severely wounded a very suppressed Cell (something Cell himself plays up to shoot down Vegeta's ego). Gohan's Kamehameha erased Cell down to the last tiny bit and this was after Cell came back even stronger than before.

Gohan's Kamehameha would punch right through the Final Flash like it did the Kamehameha Cell fired from the air and resulted in him losing a arm and both legs.