Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:11 pm

Stonefallow wrote:Here's my theory:

Freeza gets revived by his two soldiers and is humiliated by the Z fighters. Realizing he is essentially impotent in Universe 7, he decides to find a way to get to a weaker universe to reclaim his power. Goku spares his life but is intrigued at the idea of finding new universes because he wants to fight stronger opponents. He agrees to work with Freeza and figure out how to do it. Beerus and Whis get wind of this somehow and try to stop them with the help of Vegeta. In the end, Goku and Freeza succeed, or possibly Goku changes his mind but Freeza still succeeds. They open the universal gateways and accidentally set loose strong villains onto the other universes. Enter movie 3...

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-I'm hoping Vegeta has caught up to Goku. The new outfits also suggest that they may have been trained by Whis.
-The movie poster seems to be a callback to the Namek Arc. Perhaps Gohan, Krillin and Piccolo will have larger roles.
-The return of scouters hopefully means we get some new power levels.
-Goku as an antagonist is long deserved, and would fit with Toriyama's quote about Vegeta being the main protagonist next time.
-I do not want a God power up or Immortality for Freeza. The former would not make sense and the latter would just be annoying.
Meh, I don't see how that could happen at all. The poster implies that Goku and Vegeta are gonna be the primary protagonists of the film, and Goku's already long realized that Frieza is completely beyond salvaging. I don't think he'd be eager to help him for the sake of finding new opponents.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:11 pm

Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Gotenks, Piccolo and Buu are all wayyyy stronger than Freeza.
Don't forget Kibitoshin, Trunks, Goten, 17, and 18. Possibly 16 too, if that wish brought him back at the end of the Cell arc.
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Post by garnetjester » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:12 pm

Ok, now I'm completely hyped to see Gohan fighting again and if Toriyama doesn't give me that after teasing me with that poster I'm going to be really frustrated.
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Post by sailorspazz » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:13 pm

Whew! Finally made it through the explosion of new comments. Though I was initially surprised at the revelation of Freeza's revival (had the same "how will he even be relevant at this point?" reaction as many others), now I'm wondering how they'll utilize Beerus and Whis. Really excited they're back, I love Beerus!

And since Beerus is up from his three year nap, little Pan and Bra should be around, too. Hope we'll get something with Vegeta fawning over daddy's little girl (really enjoyed their interactions in GT). And digging his new armor. Thought it was the same old tired armor at first glance, but looking closer it's definitely different. Can't wait to see a full view.

And what could be the meaning of Gokuu's new symbol? Something he got from doing godly training with Beerus and Whis? Something he made up just because he felt like it? Looking forward to getting more information about everything (because, no, I don't have the self control to go spoiler-free on this!)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by TheKingOfKamehamehas » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:15 pm

What I am guessing is that Goku is training with Beerus and Whis for some sort of reason because that could be Beerus' symbol on the gi. It looks like it would make sense because the only people who are stronger so far seem to be them.
I think the gi is kind of cool but I prefer his EoZ Gi,

-The new characters Sorbet and Tagoma look cool. Not up to par with Toriyama's old character creativity and Sorbet looks a lot like Abo and Kado. I really wonder what they have to do in the story? Could they be similar to the Ginyu Force?
Is this from DB- cause I haven't actually read it yet....?

- Gohan, Goten, or Yamucha being on the cover! Screw Yamucha because he is never will be so significant to be on the poster... (Sorry Yamucha fans). I also don't believe its Goten because he is so associated with Trunks that he is usually with him.
This means its Gohan

Opinion: Kind of miss his old look...

-Frieza being revived.

Opinion: Kind of cool, but I kind of wished for a new villain. We don't know for sure though. All I want to know is who revived him?
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Chuquita » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:17 pm

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I hope so too. I love Vegeta Gokû banter. X3

Thank you for the high res.

I want to say it's Gohan, but the absence of Goten and Trunks, and bald Kuririn make me think Yamcha and wish-induced AU's.

It does feel suspect that the kids are missing.
There are no scars on his face, and if you look closely the outline of his eye cuts off just like with the rest of the Son boys. Plus the jumpsuit has the Saiyaman colors. It's definitely Gohan.
That makes me happy. While SMC has me missing Tohru Furuya, that being Gohan is more intriguing somehow.
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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:17 pm

The implementation of improved scouters can be great.

We might finally have solid power levels from the entire cast.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:21 pm

I predict that the only Battle Power we'll learn in the film, other than maybe Sorbet and Tagoma, is Mr. Satan.
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Post by SaiyaJedi » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:22 pm

Has anyone commented yet about how Sorube/Sorbet appears to be a space-koala?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:23 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:Has anyone commented yet about how Sorube/Sorbet appears to be a space-koala?
I HAVE! lol
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Can I ask for Neko Majin Z in his koala outfit to fight Sorbet? I'd love a "picture with a koala" gag.
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Post by Marco Polo » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:23 pm

Gohan in a tracksuit... See? Gohan did keep training after the Buu Saga after all 8)

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:26 pm

Zombie wrote:The implementation of improved scouters can be great.

We might finally have solid power levels from the entire cast.
I've already mentioned how that would be an extraordinarily bad idea.
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I hope so. All the years of the internet inflating and deflating the power levels of character after the Freeza Arc have been an issue and have lead to people being misinformed. Maybe we'll finally get some closure and know exactly what the numbers are for certain characters and transformation.
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Post by Stonefallow » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:27 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:The poster implies that Goku and Vegeta are gonna be the primary protagonists of the film
Having two characters in the center of the poster doesn't imply they are both protagonists. In BoGs Beerus and Goku were in the center of the poster and Beerus was an antagonist.
jjgp1112 wrote: and Goku's already long realized that Freeza is completely beyond salvaging.
What exactly are you basing that on? The last time Frieza interacted with Goku, he spared his life again. That's just Goku's way. I don't see him killing a harmless Frieza right after he gets revived.
jjgp1112 wrote: I don't think he'd be eager to help him for the sake of finding new opponents.
Do you not know Goku's personality? He'd do almost anything to find new opponents, including putting his family in danger. Frieza doesn't even have to tell him what his motives are. He just needs to take advantage of Goku's desire to get stronger.

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Post by Chuquita » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:28 pm

Vegeta looks so well-drawn in that poster I'm still trying to get over it. Someone took their time with him.
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Post by Codarik » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:29 pm

So since Chris Sabat got a few of the Z actors back in Battle of Gods, wouldn't it make since to bring Linda Young back as Freeza? Since he tries to keep Kai and Z separate and all. I don't see why it would be necessary to break your own rule due to preference, it should be about consistency.

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Post by Stonefallow » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:31 pm

Codarik wrote:So since Chris Sabat got a few of the Z actors back in Battle of Gods, wouldn't it make since to bring Linda Young back as Freeza? Since he tries to keep Kai and Z separate and all. I don't see why it would be necessary to break your own rule due to preference, it should be about consistency.
No, that would ruin the movie.

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Post by Dbzk1999 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:31 pm

Stonefallow wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: and Goku's already long realized that Freeza is completely beyond salvaging.
What exactly are you basing that on? The last time Freeza interacted with Goku, he spared his life again. That's just Goku's way. I don't see him killing a harmless Freeza right after he gets revived.
Probably because in the original timeline, goku killed freeza

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:33 pm

BlackCatScott wrote:What if "Revival of F" is a title to throw you off and the real threat in this film is the return of Fangs the Vampire?

:shock:
That would be quite the shock indeed, since his name is Draculaman, with a "D".

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Stonefallow » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:35 pm

Dbzk1999 wrote:
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jjgp1112 wrote: and Goku's already long realized that Freeza is completely beyond salvaging.
What exactly are you basing that on? The last time Freeza interacted with Goku, he spared his life again. That's just Goku's way. I don't see him killing a harmless Freeza right after he gets revived.
Probably because in the original timeline, goku killed freeza
Well first of all, that never even happened in the main timeline. But more importantly, the situation was different then. Freeza had come to Earth specifically to destroy it. In this movie, Freeza is brought there by Shenron. He's outclassed and he knows it, and probably isn't going to attack the Earth. He could still possibly cheap shot everyone by destroying the Earth, but Goku let's people go all the time that are capable of that.
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Post by Ajay » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:35 pm

Stonefallow wrote:
Codarik wrote:So since Chris Sabat got a few of the Z actors back in Battle of Gods, wouldn't it make since to bring Linda Young back as Freeza? Since he tries to keep Kai and Z separate and all. I don't see why it would be necessary to break your own rule due to preference, it should be about consistency.
No, that would ruin the movie.
Exactly. Bringing back Linda Young would be ridiculous. We're in 2014. Fuck consistency. Choose the best person for the role.
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