Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Low Tone G]

I'm surprised that the idea of Freeza having more transformations is getting such a large number of complaints. His brother has already had a further form for the past 23 years after all. (Sure, Coola isn't exactly canon, but still.)

Two facts should stop Freeza to have more than one transformations(in my opinion):

1. Frieza in theory couldn't keep his body in Hell, maybe his soul was kept and left intact, so he couldn't train to have access to further transformations.

2. I've really thought the Godly transformation is the top that a being can attain.

[kei17]

I've finished my work and now here's the details:

• We'll see Freeza's further transformation(s).
• Tagoma and Sorube, remnants of Freeza's army, come to the Earth for bringing back Freeza with the dragon balls.
• He doesn't get revived just as-is. Something more happens.
• Toriyama came up with the idea of reviving Freeza when he listened to Maximum the Hormone's "F".
• The title comes from the song, too.

[goku the krump dancer]

I knew it was gonna be more to it.. But Last I checked Dragons couldn't make someone stronger than they naturally are.. Or atleast Porunga couldn't.

Thanks Kei .

[sintzu]

[*]He doesn't get revived just as-is. Something more happens.

Something more as in another villain or plot point or something more to do with Frieza ?

Is there anything new in Toriyama's note ?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Hmm. So basically just what we already knew, but the couple things that were left out are kinda obvious, yet still interesting to see acknowledged.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

This is all very interesting, I wonder how this revival is gonna change Frieza.
I can't really think of anything at the moment.

[sintzu]

This is all very interesting, I wonder how this revival is gonna change Freeza.
I can't really think of anything at the moment.

It could be a 2 in 1 wish like : Bring back our master at his maximum power.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

This is all very interesting, I wonder how this revival is gonna change Freeza.
I can't really think of anything at the moment.

It could be a 2 in 1 wish like : Bring back our master at his maximum power.

Would his maximum even be enough?

[Jackal puFF]

Maybe he'll get his wish for eternal life after all?

How you going to defeat Freeza if you can't kill him? Combine that with him getting transformations.

And no.. Not the dead zone..

[Mewzard]

This is all very interesting, I wonder how this revival is gonna change Freeza.
I can't really think of anything at the moment.

It could be a 2 in 1 wish like : Bring back our master at his maximum power.

Would his maximum even be enough?

"Bring back Freeza stronger than Goku, the one who defeated him long ago!"

That might do it.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Maybe he'll get his wish for eternal life after all?

How you going to defeat Freeza if you can't kill him? Combine that with him getting transformations.

Send him to..... THE DEAD ZONE


He can be friends with whats his face, Onion? Yeah I think it was Onion jr.

Edit: Dammit....

[freezamite]

I'm surprised that the idea of Freeza having more transformations is getting such a large number of complaints. His brother has already had a further form for the past 23 years after all. (Sure, Coola isn't exactly canon, but still.)

His brother was complete nonsense. Freezer transformed in order to reduce his strength, he can't now appear saying "hey but I have this form that allows me to become stronger" because that goes completely against the character. Well, maybe a good enough excuse is given as to why Freezer didn't use this form in his match against Goku, the only thing that I would accept is something like "this form requires me to be in good shape before transforming and since in my last fight I went from 'nothing can stop me' to 'oh shit I've been screwed by the Genkidama' I couldn't even try to transform in order to fight" but even that would require a proper explanation.

[Low Tone G]

I've finished my work and now here's the details:

• We'll see Freeza's further transformation(s).
• He doesn't get revived just as-is. Something more happens.

I really hope that is only a Godly transformation, nothing more, that should be more than enough for Freeza to compete our heroes.

For the unsual resurrection. I think the unusual state of resurrection will right the God Ki that he will posssess it, being a side-effect as being not reincarnated for many years.

[Retan]

So with the way Toriyama draws, and the way Freeza's transformation change, maybe he'll be a stick figure next?

Seriously though why is everyone against Freeza having more (And possibly cooler...doh!!) transformations +Plus Godly power?

[Ryuman]

So with the way Toriyama draws, and the way Freeza's transformation change, maybe he'll be a stick figure next?

Seriously though why is everyone against Freeza having more (And possibly cooler...doh!!) transformations +Plus Godly power?

Because it doesn't make a lot of sense.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

So with the way Toriyama draws, and the way Freeza's transformation change, maybe he'll be a stick figure next?

Seriously though why is everyone against Freeza having more (And possibly cooler...doh!!) transformations +Plus Godly power?

Gonna be honest, I don't care for this revival of Frieza thing.
I think (in my opinion) he was good where he was left off.

Plus a lot of this doesn't make sense.

[Low Tone G]

So with the way Toriyama draws, and the way Freeza's transformation change, maybe he'll be a stick figure next?

Seriously though why is everyone against Freeza having more (And possibly cooler...doh!!) transformations +Plus Godly power?

Because he is already shown in his 4th form and he has some kind of God aura around him. That should be more than enough, because if he had more forms in Namek saga, then Toriyama would loose his credibility to be original, becuase an additional transformation would have been highly usefull against SSJ Goku, and no way Frieza could have kept his body in Hell, when right Toriyama said the evil people are deprived of their bodies.

[Retan]

So with the way Toriyama draws, and the way Freeza's transformation change, maybe he'll be a stick figure next?

Seriously though why is everyone against Freeza having more (And possibly cooler...doh!!) transformations +Plus Godly power?

Because he is already shown in his 4th form and he some kind of God aura around him. That should be more than enough, because if he had more forms in Namek saga, then Toriyama would loose his credibility to be original, becuase an additional transformation would have been highly usefull against SSJ Goku, and no way Freeza could have kept his body in Hell, when right Toriyama said the evil people are deprived of their bodies.

Guys Toriyama's gonna come up with something, sure I wanted a new villian too, but Freeza with all new power, and Toriyama behind it is fine with me now, and I'm going to support it, even if it doesn't make perfect sense, unless Freeza just says "I didn't show my full power last time" then I'd be a little ticked, but still support it.

[Low Tone G]

So with the way Toriyama draws, and the way Freeza's transformation change, maybe he'll be a stick figure next?

Seriously though why is everyone against Freeza having more (And possibly cooler...doh!!) transformations +Plus Godly power?

Because he is already shown in his 4th form and he some kind of God aura around him. That should be more than enough, because if he had more forms in Namek saga, then Toriyama would loose his credibility to be original, becuase an additional transformation would have been highly usefull against SSJ Goku, and no way Freeza could have kept his body in Hell, when right Toriyama said the evil people are deprived of their bodies.

Guys Toriyama's gonna come up with something, sure I wanted a new villian too, but Freeza with all new power, and Toriyama behind it is fine with me now, and I'm going to support it, even if it doesn't make perfect sense, unless Freeza just says "I didn't show my full power last time" then I'd be a little ticked, but still support it.

Really? But Freeza had a second chance as Mecha Freeza, still didn't suggest that he could have killed Goku if he decided to go through another transformation.(Please Toriyama do not change things in vain, I accepted Freeza to be the villain this time, but still try to keep the things consistent enough.) Toriyama really did a good job with BOG and especially after the extended edition there were almost nothing to be an inconsistency regarding the manga. But now if Frieza will get another transformation without a possiblity to do it, I will not be happy at all. Now I wish Toriyama to follow our comments here on kanzenshuu.

[Retan]

This has nothing to do with what Freeza could or couldn't do back then, this has everything to do with what Kei17 translated as He doesn't get revive just as-is. Something more happens, and what possibilities come from that.