Metamoran Dance/Potara Fusion Estimates Experiment: Saibamen

[Angelus]

Don't let the silly title discourage you!

I'm trying to list down people's estimates on people's multipliers/formula/results of the Metamoran Fusion Dance and the Potara Earrings Fusion (without rival boosts). Use Saibamen for your estimates.

For both estimates, we have 2 Saibamen fusing.

Saibamen have a power level of 1,200.

So, what are your estimates?

Saibaman + Saibaman via Metamoran Fusion Dance = [Power level?]

Saibaman + Saibaman via Potara Earrings Fusion = [Power level?]

[Galan007]

The Potara-amalgam should theoretically possess a PL of 1,440,000(1,200*1,200.) As for the Dance-amalgam: no clue.

[Diotor]

Is the dance a straight up power level x + power level y or is it also subject to a multiplier?

[Hugo Boss]

Saibaman + Saibaman via Metamoran Fusion Dance = 24.000
Saibaman + Saibaman via Potara Earrings Fusion = 60.000

[hleV]

The Potara-amalgam should theoretically possess a PL of 1,440,000(1,200*1,200.)

That's not Potara formula (see Kibitoshin), that's Potara formula for Vegetto specifically.

I suppose saibaimen fusion could be 10-20 times stronger than a single saibaiman.

[Angelus]

I suppose saibaimen fusion could be 10-20 times stronger than a single saibaiman.

Which fusion method?

[hleV]

Any. Potara would be stronger than Metamorian, but it's still around 10-20 times.

[Galan007]

The Potara-amalgam should theoretically possess a PL of 1,440,000(1,200*1,200.)

That's not Potara formula (see Kibitoshin), that's Potara formula for Vegetto specifically.

True.

[Angelus]

Any. Potara would be stronger than Metamorian, but it's still around 10-20 times.

So you're saying the fusion dance or potara would result in 1,200 x 10 up to 1,200 x 20?

[Regarder]

Didn't one of the guidebooks clarify how strong Gotenks was compared to Vegeta SS2? It gives an idea of how strong the fusion is, since the kids weren't millions of miles away from the base level of their parents. Base Gotenks being = Vegeta SS2, for example, would mean that the fusion was roughly a 100x multiplication (or Goten + Trunks and then times by 50).

120,000 is the powerlevel of Saisaibaman (the above paragraph being true). He could give an even fight to Ginyu.

[hleV]

Any. Potara would be stronger than Metamorian, but it's still around 10-20 times.

So you're saying the fusion dance or potara would result in 1,200 x 10 up to 1,200 x 20?

Yes, since I find Gotenks to be 10-20x stronger than Goten/Trunks separately.

[Pantalones]

Is the dance a straight up power level x + power level y

Fusion Dance can't be just X + Y. There's no way Super Saiyan Gotenks would equal or pass SSj3 Goku (as is implied) if he was only twice as strong as Super Saiyan Goten or Trunks alone... even the most absurdly high estimates of the kids' strength (those who buy into the "about as strong as Gohan" bit from the guidebooks while ignoring their performance against #18, and how Goten described Gohan as being way above him during their training, in the manga itself...) would only put SSj Gotenks about even with SSj2 Gohan at best... which is hardly a level of power that anyone would mistake for being able to take on Fat Buu when a stronger SSj2 had already tried and failed by that point.

So I guess for a two Saibaimen fusion... hard to say a specific number, but my guess would be "way, way stronger than 2400." XD

The 10x-20x estimate (for a fusion compared to either of the people fusing to make it) sounds about right to me, though, considering Gotenks. Though wasn't it said that dance-type fusion works better the closer the two "fusees" are in size, power, species, etc.? Maybe a Saibaimen fusion would end up on the higher end of that range because they're perfectly matched in all of those areas.