Why is everyone so obsessed about Gohan going SSinthemovies

[Rocketman]

If he can go mystic anytime then how come he never use it against Rildo, Super 17 and Super Yi Xing Long?

You know. Deep down, you know.

[ParkerAL]

Maybe Gohan is just turning Super Saiyan to give Freeza a scare? "Hey, remember that legendary Super Saiyan transformation you were so scared of? now I can do it too!"

[hleV]

Maybe Gohan is just turning Super Saiyan to give Freeza a scare? "Hey, remember that legendary Super Saiyan transformation you were so scared of? now I can do it too!"

Wishful thinking. Gohan is not even "mystic" in the upcoming movie (check his eyes).

[sintzu]

Because Gohan has something stronger so there's no reason for him to use Ssj.

I'm still hoping it's because he's helping the others with Vegeta's ritual.

[DBZAOTA482]

What's SSinthemovies?

[sintzu]

What's SSinthemovies?

SS in the movies.

[sintzu]

Hell him not being the star isn't even my complaint, it's the constant screwing over he gets. I'd really like him or maybe Vegeta a chance to be equals or be the star rather than just Goku.

If you don't know in Toriyama's script for BOG both of them and the rest of the cast had a bigger role but Toie didn't use that part to save time yet for some reason they kept the Pilaf part.

[KentalSSJ6]

Then the complaints should be "Why didnt Goku let GOHAN be SSG?"

You beautiful, amazing bastard.

[Metalwario64]

Gohan doesn't even have his "ultimate" eyes in this new film (though, I can't recall if his eyes were "ultimate" in Battle of Gods), which goes against the manga where he stayed in his ultimate form even through the end.

If there's no explanation for it, and he goes Super Saiyan with no problem, then that's a very glaring issue.

[Hugo Boss]

Well, Gohan died after getting his power-up from Old Kai. Vegeta died after getting his power-up from Babidi. Since Vegeta wasn't a Majin anymore, the same could be applied to Gohan.

[dbzfan7]

Gohan doesn't even have his "ultimate" eyes in this new film (though, I can't recall if his eyes were "ultimate" in Battle of Gods), which goes against the manga where he stayed in his ultimate form even through the end.

If there's no explanation for it, and he goes Super Saiyan with no problem, then that's a very glaring issue.

It's because "Fuck Gohan, he's not Goku". I'm actually serious. I doubt Goku would suffer such an error. Hell Vegeta got the bullshit boosting without any good explanation, while drawing on hidden powers was Gohan's shtick. There was once a quote Randomguy wrote that really sums up the matter when Vegeta mentions Gohan's hidden power in the Boo saga (And alters it in a funny way). I'd really like that quote to show up again.

[sintzu]

Well, Gohan died after getting his power-up from Old Kai. Vegeta died after getting his power-up from Babidi. Since Vegeta wasn't a Majin anymore, the same could be applied to Gohan.

Why would they lose their power ups after dying ?

[Hugo Boss]

Well, Gohan died after getting his power-up from Old Kai. Vegeta died after getting his power-up from Babidi. Since Vegeta wasn't a Majin anymore, the same could be applied to Gohan.

Why would they lose their power ups after dying ?

I didn't mean their powers, but their looks.

[Metalwario64]

Like I said, even in the end of the series, when he's revived, and even after the time skip, he still has his ultimate form eyes.

[bleed0range]

It would be funny if someone questions Gohan about going SSJ in FnF even though he doesn't need to do it anymore, and he says he does it because he thinks it makes him look cooler. That's the reason he does those Saiyaman poses, after all.

A very Toriyama-like answer. All the explanation that would really be needed. It does look cooler, lol.

[NitroEX]

It would be funny if someone questions Gohan about going SSJ in FnF even though he doesn't need to do it anymore, and he says he does it because he thinks it makes him look cooler. That's the reason he does those Saiyaman poses, after all.

A very Toriyama-like answer. All the explanation that would really be needed. It does look cooler, lol.

The Saiyaman poses always seemed out of character to me, I mean who was he imitating? The Ginyu's who beat him half to death as a kid?

The idea of Saiyaman was ok but the posing seemed to come out of nowhere especially since Gohan's idols were Goku and Piccolo who never did silly poses.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I was about to argue that Gohan didn't want anyone to know that it was him, so that was the whole point of him acting completely differently as Saiyaman...but he also did seem to find the whole thing 'awesome', so I guess that can't totally be it either.

Either way though, Saiyaman does indeed equal awesome.

[bleed0range]

It would be funny if someone questions Gohan about going SSJ in FnF even though he doesn't need to do it anymore, and he says he does it because he thinks it makes him look cooler. That's the reason he does those Saiyaman poses, after all.

A very Toriyama-like answer. All the explanation that would really be needed. It does look cooler, lol.

The Saiyaman poses always seemed out of character to me, I mean who was he imitating? The Ginyu's who beat him half to death as a kid?

The idea of Saiyaman was ok but the posing seemed to come out of nowhere especially since Gohan's idols were Goku and Piccolo who never did silly poses.

Well, the poses they do are just a riff on the Super Sentai series. It doesn't mean the Ginyu force were the only ones to do that, maybe they have Super Sentai type stuff in their universe and Gohan is just emulating what "super heroes" do. Which is probably closer to the correct answer.

If you wanna go super in-universe though and assume they don't have things like that (which isn't that out of the question for the universe they live in)... then perhaps he just, upon reflection, thought it was actually pretty cool even if they were a bunch of evil guys. His role models were his dad and Piccolo. But his dad had been dead for nearly a decade and he had grown up and apart from Piccolo by that point.

[Zephyr]

Like I said, even in the end of the series, when he's revived, and even after the time skip, he still has his ultimate form eyes.

Are there even any clear shots of his eyes after the timeskip in the manga?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Plus, I don't remember seeing Super Saiyan fetus!Pan in the ritual. =P

There was nothing indicating that she's Super Saiyan. She was just surrounded by the blue aura.

Exactly. I don't think she was even developed enough to perform the transformation, so the idea that it's required for Super Saiyan God seems a bit farfetch'd.

Plus, Shenlong said that the good Saiyans that made the SSGod last time were weaker than the evil ones, and the Saiyans before Planet Vegeta's destruction weren't Super Saiyans. Goku & co. probably went Super Saiyan because... Super Saiyan God, and Shenlong said that the Saiyans must give their light (it seems that he meant the blue aura that appeared, but they probably assumed the SS light).