"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" Official Discussion Thread

[Careless Saiyajin]

I feel like some characters and forms are missing because the new story isn't going to cover every single point of the original story just more of the Key moments and battles. So there might be some skipping going on.

I already assumed there would be some skipping, just based on the idea that it's using DBO as source material inspiration. My minor issue here is that even if they are skipping around and avoiding some of the characters/forms during the story, why are they not at least including the skipped stuff (at least some of it, like Freeza's other forms) on the overall roster? They've already stated that GT characters are in but don't have relevance to the story, so we know being part of the story isn't a requirement for inclusion to be playable.

I hope this isn't true for example I want all of frieza's forms. I really don't mind skipping in story mode but don't mess up the roster.

[Sigh-Ya-Jin]

My bad base teen gohan is who I was referring to. I don't believe any character starts in SSJ except SSJG Goku and SS4's of course.
I watched a J Patrol interview about 2 weeks back that says it's only base form Freeza FF and 100%. Sorry.

[TheGmGoken]

Forgot all about this.

Yes! Definitely getting the game now! Wanted to make a custom cover with these two. Similar to BOZ.

I'll probably use Future Trunks and Teen Goten or Towa and Miira.

[donkeyjack]

Base Cell Games Gohan has to be in because he was in the datamining unless it is incorrect.

[Thanos]

If this was Dimps first game then you'd be right. But this isn't Dimps' first game. The FIRST game that Dimps made had base Teen Gohan in it. Making a character other than SSG or SS4 a permanent base form is a sign of laziness on the developers.

Gogeta?

I am fully cognizant of all the facts. I don't really see the relevance in who is developing the game, to be honest. This a brand new series of games; despite being a DBZ game and being developed by the creators of the Budokai series, I don't really understand why we're holding each new game series to the standards of previous game series. People whined when the roster of Burst Limit was a fraction of Tenkaichi 3's... what? Sure, they are of the same franchise, but they are completely different games serving completely different purposes.

Once again, this isn't a Spike title. I'm not sure what made you think an objective of the developers was to give us every single form of every single character. And honesty, with Dimps, despite emphasizing quality in their work, it's pretty surprising just how robust the roster is, even of what we know (I might even go as far as to call it beyond satisfactory).

Budokai 3 lacked base Broli but had SSJ/SSJ, GT kid Goku/Vegeta but had SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta, but to name a few. Dimps is no stranger to omitting arguably essential character stages, and I would hardly contend base preteen Gohan even falls into that category.

[TheGmGoken]

Gt Vegeta is more of a costume rather than a new character.
Also I believe more characters were planned but B3 was rushed. Don't think it was omitted on purpose but for release purposes

[Super Sayian Prime]

I'm talking in terms of development. Why invest that much time and money into a version then cancel it last second? Especially since the 360 version requires a different dev kit then the Xbox 1 version. In Japan the Xbox versions might not sell well but everywhere else? I actually won't be surprised if the 360 version sits within the top 3 in sales.

I've already said that the rumour was regarding a potential cancellation of the Xbox versions in Japan. It's a false rumour, but even if it were true, it wouldn't be surprising. Many games that are available on Xbox in the west aren't in Japan.

[dbboxkaifan]

I've already said that the rumour was regarding a potential cancellation of the Xbox versions in Japan. It's a false rumour, but even if it were true, it wouldn't be surprising. Many games that are available on Xbox in the west aren't in Japan.

That and Xbox tends to be UK's and US favourite gaming system so if Bandai Namco tossed out the Xbox versions then they'd be losing profit and that's something they wouldn't want for a franchise which isn't very popular any more.

I wonder how non-DB fans will react to this or probably "Another Dragon Ball Z game? Why? Who even plays DBZ games nowadays".

[Hellspawn28]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

''But the roster is not complete now!!!"

[SupremeSSJ]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

We all know this,it's just for completion sake. I'll be happy if they just copied freeza saga gohan move sets and pasted it to him. I think this will be the DBZ game for the next 2 to 3 years so I would like this game to have a complete roster.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

We all know this,it's just for completion sake. I'll be happy if they just copied freeza saga gohan move sets and pasted it to him.

Why would they need to do that? It's Dimps. He's almost certainly going to have the same animations and general move pool between SS and SS2 because the transformations are a model swap and stat boost. All they'd have to do is take their files for Gohan's Super Saiyan form, copy them over as a base form set and color the hair and eyes black on the model.

[GogesusSSG]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

It is because he would be the only character to start the fight as a super saiyan; which in this game for every other base saiyan capable of transforming it takes up an ultimate slot, makes supers and ultimates use less ki, boosting their stats whilst consuming ki until they run out and revert to base with both the ki and stamina temporarily greyed out and unusable which gives you less defensive options. Cell games Gohan not having a base makes a mockery of the transformation system they've put the into effort to make.

[Lord Beerus]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

''But the roster is not complete now!!!"

I'm not so OCD when it comes to the roster of a Dragon Ball game. I'm more concerned as to whether the gameplay will be fresh, diverse and innovative and if the story more will provide anything unique. Xenoverse has accomplished those goals so far in my opinion and all the characters that need to be in the roster and are in it, so no major losses for me so far!

[nato25]

Gogesus makes a good point. So will Super Saiyan Gohan get all the benefits of the super saiyan form but with no ki drain ? Or will he's ki just always drain ?

The choice to omit base gohan (if its true, I'm inclined to be pessimistic when expecting things in dragon ball games so at least i can be suprised if it turns out good) definitely does contradict the transformation system they have made. Basically saying "Everyone has to transform to access the benefits of super saiyan, but gohan is just in it the whole time".

[TheGmGoken]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

He's one of my favorite characters to play as. I hate starting battles in a stronger form. It's stupid IMO. Let's not forgot Gohan fought in base during Bojack Unbound.

[Zelvin]

Gogesus makes a good point. So will Super Saiyan Gohan get all the benefits of the super saiyan form but with no ki drain ? Or will he's ki just always drain ?

The choice to omit base gohan (if its true, I'm inclined to be pessimistic when expecting things in dragon ball games so at least i can be suprised if it turns out good) definitely does contradict the transformation system they have made. Basically saying "Everyone has to transform to access the benefits of super saiyan, but gohan is just in it the whole time".

Only transformations during battle would have a ki drain. Those made at the select screen going into battle with will not.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yeah, I imagine they're kinda following the original concept here. At this point, Gohan trained Super Saiyan to act like his base form, so it will function as a base form with slightly higher stats (the same as Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan 4 Characters will).

[Quebaz]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

Just like Base Future Trunks, Base Buu Arc Gohan, Appule and Lasberi. I mean, they make a dumb transformation/costumization system, have all of the transformable characters with either separate forms or every form included, but they can't include Cell arc Gohan? A character who in Dimps terms is literally a recolor with no different animations/attacks compared to SSJ Gohan? I mean TBH, it isn't that much of a deal for me as not having seen Dabura, any of the Super Buu absorptions, Zarbon and Dodoria and knowing that not all of Freeza's and Cell's forms are going to be in the game upsets me much more, but if they made a dumb transformation mechanic plaguing all the Saiyans I don't see how Teen Gohan should be treated differently.

[Careless Saiyajin]

Why are people upset that there is no base Cell saga Gohan? I mean he never fought in this form and it would be a waste of a slot to put him in the game.

Just like Base Future Trunks, Base Buu Arc Gohan, Appule and Lasberi. I mean, they make a dumb transformation/costumization system, have all of the transformable characters with either separate forms or every form included, but they can't include Cell arc Gohan? A character who in Dimps terms is literally a recolor with no different animations/attacks compared to SSJ Gohan? I mean TBH, it isn't that much of a deal for me as not having seen Dabura, any of the Super Buu absorptions, Zarbon and Dodoria and knowing that not all of Freeza's and Cell's forms are going to be in the game upsets me much more, but if they made a dumb transformation mechanic plaguing all the Saiyans I don't see how Teen Gohan should be treated differently.

I would like to see all cell and friezes transformations, with that said I think the biggest issue in complaining is in how a lot of the "issues" are not 100 percent confirmed yet anyways.