Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:57 am

No, Tadayoshi Yamamuro is the film director for Fukkastu no F. He hasn't been a good animation supervisor and character designer in recent years, so I don't have a high hope for his first gig as a director for the big film project. Going by what I saw thus far of the trailer, the animation doesn't look very good. It looks very rushed and lazy. His first experience as a director, in addition to his bad character designs, the animation would be below average. The subpar key animators didn't help either.

It's not only him that is to be blamed. It's also the producers' responsibility to make sure the animation quality is handled properly. They play big roles in bringing the animation to life. I can't believe they actually went and hired Yamamuro given his track record of being a terrible character designer. There are many talented directors that could have been chosen over him.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Careless Saiyajin » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:01 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:No, Tadayoshi Yamamuro is the film director for Fukkastu no F. He hasn't been a good animation supervisor and character designer in recent years, so I don't have a high hope for his first gig as a director for the big film project. Going by what I saw thus far of the trailer, the animation doesn't look very good. It looks very rushed and lazy. His first experience as a director, in addition to his bad character designs, the animation would be below average. The subpar key animators didn't help either.

It's not only him that is to be blamed. It's also the producers' responsibility to make sure the animation quality is handled properly. They play big roles in bringing the animation to life. I can't believe they actually went and hired Yamamuro given his track record of being a terrible character designer. There are many talented directors that could have been chosen over him.
Let's hope that this guy and the rest of the team can't prove us wrong despite the evidence and facts and bang out a movie we all really enjoy.(I'm sure I'll enjoy the movie anyway but let's hope the animation is good anyways)

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:18 am

Careless Saiyajin wrote:You really know your stuff and this isn't the first or second time I've learned something from your posts. I don't always think about the budget of what goes into what I'm watching. Do you have any idea if we're in good hands with this new film?
I can't imagine we are, unless Yamamuro Tadayoshi and his production manage have hunted down a plethora of talented freelance key animators and storyboard artists that they can heavily rely on. All of Toei Animation's best in-house staff have been very busy this year working on their various projects. Yamamuro's personal storyboarding does not always prove to be the most interesting, so I would really hope he brought on folks to storyboard the film in his stead. Of course, who knows if he'll do that much, either. :lol:

Yamamuro has never directed a series, a film or an episode of television before. He's done some light storyboarding for other directors and overseen (perhaps even outright directed) the current Dragon Ball Kai Opening. Yamamuro hasn't done any major key animation since the early 1990s, so this isn't the case of another Yamashita Hiroyuki or some such where a talented action animator is groomed into a director. The fact that his first real directing job is coming thirty years into his career, a career which hasn't seen any real creative strides in twenty years, is pretty damning.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:36 am

It's also frustrating because early 90's Yamamuro wasn't that bad, and had better character models than (how do you shorten this decade's name, the 10's?) he does now.
He tries to stick to Buu arc aesthetic, but I wish he'd take some inspiration from his old character models (especially in the face; the faces he draws aren't nearly as tight as they used to be). Nowadays he makes the whites of the eyes too big, noses are too big, doesn't always follow the lines across the proportion of the face, but he wasn't always that way.
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Post by Attitudefan » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:12 am

I miss the way they used to draw the pupils. They used to be very small and sharp, even Yamamuro's style was like that, especially his actually. It looked great on the villains especially such as Piccolo and Vegeta. But somewhere mid Cell arc, the pupils got larger along with their necks, noses, chins, heads, and muscles making the characters have weird proportions.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:20 am

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This Gokû is his. It boggles my mind when I try to figure out why he changed his style so drastically.
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Post by Blade » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:34 am

Chuquita wrote:Image
This Gokû is his. It boggles my mind when I try to figure out why he changed his style so drastically.
Time, budget and workload? Rushed work can never be as good as something you can take proper time over.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:46 am

Dayspring wrote:I just realized that if this is set three years before the 28th budokai, then Pan should be alive (albeit, a baby).
Pan should be 1 or about to turn 1 and Bulma should either be pregnant or Bra should be born.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:05 am

Chuquita wrote:Image
This Gokû is his. It boggles my mind when I try to figure out why he changed his style so drastically.
There are many factors to consider. Some say he got lazy, others say he didn't get much of budget as he used to, other say he simply had too much of a workload after DBZ ended.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:56 am

Anyway its still too soon to give up. The movie may not be the best it could be from the technical point, but it will be a good ride.
Its impossible to be the worst movie.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:19 pm

Yamamuro's drawings have nothing to do with budget. Key animators are paid by the cut (shot), not time. He gets his four thousand-plus yen no matter what.
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:49 pm

February is gonna be exciting, I'm almost certain.
The main page lists the first preview screening for March 30th.
Meaning even less time between people seeing the movie and the pre-hype.

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Post by Zelvin » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:25 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Anyway its still too soon to give up. The movie may not be the best it could be from the technical point, but it will be a good ride.
Its impossible to be the worst movie.
The DBZ movie to hold the title of worst shall forever be "Bio-Broly" :evil:
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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:45 pm

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FortuneSSJ wrote:Anyway its still too soon to give up. The movie may not be the best it could be from the technical point, but it will be a good ride.
Its impossible to be the worst movie.
The DBZ movie to hold the title of worst shall forever be "Bio-Broly" :evil:
"Dragon Ball Z: Super Warrior Defeat!! I'm The One Who'll Win" isn't a great title, but at least it fits the "overly generic sounding" feel the DBZ movie titles have.

If you're just referring to the English dub titles, I think that it's a tie between Bio-Broly and Lord Slug.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:25 pm

I think he means that Bio Broli will still hold the title for being the worst DBZ movie as being a bad movie and not the title for the actual film. DBZ Movie 11, DBZ Movie 10, DBZ Movie 4, DBZ Movie 7 and DBZ Movie 2 are still the worst DBZ movies for me.
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Post by KaiserNeko » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:28 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think he means that Bio Broli will still hold the title for being the worst DBZ movie as being a bad movie and not the title for the actual film. DBZ Movie 11, DBZ Movie 10, DBZ Movie 4, DBZ Movie 7 and DBZ Movie 2 are still the worst DBZ movies for me.
It still have no idea how anyone could find the second movie to be a bad DBZ movie. Beautifully animated fights, original, somewhat cool villain, interesting locations, an original plot.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:30 pm

I remember DBZ Movie 2 being really boring. I seen the movie at least three times (Ocean voice cast, Japanese dub and Ultimate Uncut dub), I never care for the movie at all. I admit the story is pretty good but I don't care for the movie that much. I still like Dr. Uiro as a villain though.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Blade » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:40 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Yamamuro's drawings have nothing to do with budget. Key animators are paid by the cut (shot), not time. He gets his four thousand-plus yen no matter what.
There's a causal link. Smaller budget, smaller pool of animators, thus higher workload delegated to key or 'senior' staff with no change in the timeframe and deadline for deliverables.

Anyway, as director in 'Fukkatsu no F' he will be contracted as opposed to paid by the cut.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:56 pm

Zelvin wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:Anyway its still too soon to give up. The movie may not be the best it could be from the technical point, but it will be a good ride.
Its impossible to be the worst movie.
The DBZ movie to hold the title of worst shall forever be "Bio-Broly" :evil:
You got that right. Bio-Broly can rot for all I care.

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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:15 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think he means that Bio Broli will still hold the title for being the worst DBZ movie as being a bad movie and not the title for the actual film. DBZ Movie 11, DBZ Movie 10, DBZ Movie 4, DBZ Movie 7 and DBZ Movie 2 are still the worst DBZ movies for me.
Oh my. Instead of "the DBZ movie to hold the title of worst..." I understood "The DBZ movie to hold the worst title..."

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