Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by shinmaru » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:30 am

FatNagger69 wrote:Pilaf, Mai and Shuu join Sorbet & Tagoma in making Freeza a god.
Pilaf and Gang submit to Freeza like they did In the Piccolo Daimao Arc.
Or they try to steal the DragonBalls Again, of course.

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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:31 am

Cold Skin wrote:The Pilaf Gang was likely necessary anyway if they want to show Trunks-Mai interactions, leading to funny and/or cute scenes (depending on if they're still together or had a "kid break-up").
That being said, it will probably push both Goten and Trunks on their "dating all the time" way of life in the epilogue. They like competition, and Trunks started it.

Hmm, I really want to see their design to see if they had their sudden growth burst like Goku and Gohan before them.
Regardless, their new designs should be interesting either way. 8)
Note that a change in Goten and Trunks' appearances (other than just their clothes) might slightly change Gotenks' appearance as well.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:50 am

I am okay with the Pilaf crew returning, I think they'll be used at start of the film which I assume will be incredibly gagy.

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Post by EXBadguy » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:31 am

Pilaf Crew again? Fuck, man.....

They almost ruined the BoG movie for almost everyone, myself included. This is exactly why some people are telling Toriyama to go into pasture. I never liked his gag jokes, but now none of his gag jokes appeal to anyone except a few people. Has Toriyama gone THAT soft to not have a semi-dark atmosphere like the earlier sagas(prior to Buu) and movies, ESPECIALLY WHEN FREEZA IS AROUND!?
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:50 am

I think some of you are overreacting to this news. The film is still stated to have a darker atmosphere than BOG did, but let's not kid ourselves here - it's not going to be History of Trunks, or beyond that, most likely. Even at his darkest, Toriyama always has a sense of humor around, so there's still going to be humor in this movie: and that's likely where the Pilaf gang comes in. This doesn't automatically mean that they're going to dominate the screentime and suddenly make the movie less dark at it's dark moments.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:47 am

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Cant believe they are reusing that shot again in the new movie. Lazy!
EXBadguy wrote:Pilaf Crew again? Fuck, man.....
They almost ruined the BoG movie for almost everyone, myself included.
Not a fan of them either. But you're being dramatic over there.
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Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:48 am

Where does all this hate for the Pilaf Gang come from? I thought they were generally well-liked characters who were missed in Z. :?

Does anyone else besides me really like the trio?
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:52 am

Valerius Dover wrote:Where does all this hate for the Pilaf Gang come from? I thought they were generally well-liked characters who were missed in Z. :?

Does anyone else besides me really like the trio?
This is true however there will always be people with differing views when it comes to anything. I enjoy the pilaf gang as you do and as many others do.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:54 am

Valerius Dover wrote:Where does all this hate for the Pilaf Gang come from? I thought they were generally well-liked characters who were missed in Z. :?
A lot of people think Dragon Ball = Serious business, Violence and Blood.
Some people just care about DBZ not DB.
Pilaf trio not being the most interesting characters don't help either.
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Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:58 am

I don't really see Dragon Ball as overly serious. It's lighthearted with dark elements, the kind of stuff I'm into. They're the first villains of the franchise, which is pretty significant. The thought that there were people who saw this movie that legitimately had no idea who they are saddens me. :cry:
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:07 pm

Well if I had to choose between Pilaf Gang or Lunch, it would be Lunch all the way.
Unlike them, she was part of the gang. The woman appears in Kai ending 1 but doesn't even appear in Kai episodes.

Her sneezes can easily make some comedy. Always did.
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:23 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:I don't really see Dragon Ball as overly serious. It's lighthearted with dark elements, the kind of stuff I'm into. They're the first villains of the franchise, which is pretty significant. The thought that there were people who saw this movie that legitimately had no idea who they are saddens me. :cry:
I agree that people should know the wrath of emperor pilaf and his gang! lol it is sad when people don't know them.

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Post by Ajay » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:54 pm

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Valerius Dover wrote:Where does all this hate for the Pilaf Gang come from? I thought they were generally well-liked characters who were missed in Z. :?
A lot of people think Dragon Ball = Serious business, Violence and Blood.
Some people just care about DBZ not DB.
Pilaf trio not being the most interesting characters don't help either.
I adore the Pilag gang but my (and I think a lot of others') concerns stem from the fact this is a Freeza story. His character and his arc is arguably one of the darkest and most menacing in the series. I think we're just hoping their inclusion is for minimal comic relief in the opening and doesn't dampen the significance of Freeza's return in the long run.

There's probably nothing to worry about. I'm excited to see them on the screen again but I can't help but be just a little scared that they'll cheapen the experience. If Freeza is being brought back, it needs to have the same hard-hitting stuff as his original arc did. I have no interest in seeing that drama destroyed by a necessity to add humour to everything.

Again, we already know it's going to be a more serious story so, while I'm a bit hesitant, there's definitely no need to be crying about their inclusion as though it's end of the damn world.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:57 pm

Maybe some people just want DEEBEEZEEEEEE! UGGGGGGGGGGGH CEREAL BUSINESS! SOMEONE DIE DAMMIT!
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:02 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Maybe some people just want DEEBEEZEEEEEE! UGGGGGGGGGGGH CEREAL BUSINESS! SOMEONE DIE DAMMIT!
What do you mean by that? I actually after a second read almost understand your nonsense lol.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:11 pm

Careless Saiyajin wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Maybe some people just want DEEBEEZEEEEEE! UGGGGGGGGGGGH CEREAL BUSINESS! SOMEONE DIE DAMMIT!
What do you mean by that? I actually after a second read almost understand your nonsense lol.
When you use the term "DEEBEEZEE", you mock people who treat the whole show as serious business when it's not (Most commonly dubbies). Using the word Cereal is referencing South Park's Al Gore and you'd have to see him to truly get that. Someone die is poking at the people who say there's hardly no threat anymore like in Battle of Gods as no one died and no one's life seemed threatened, when they were. So to them the true DBZ expereince is everything always being serious, fuck any sense of gags or humour, and people need to be in pain or dying to get the real threat rolling.
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Careless Saiyajin wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Maybe some people just want DEEBEEZEEEEEE! UGGGGGGGGGGGH CEREAL BUSINESS! SOMEONE DIE DAMMIT!
What do you mean by that? I actually after a second read almost understand your nonsense lol.
When you use the term "DEEBEEZEE", you mock people who treat the whole show as serious business when it's not (Most commonly dubbies). Using the word Cereal is referencing South Park's Al Gore and you'd have to see him to truly get that. Someone die is poking at the people who say there's hardly no threat anymore like in Battle of Gods as no one died and no one's life seemed threatened, when they were. So to them the true DBZ expereince is everything always being serious, fuck any sense of gags or humour, and people need to be in pain or dying to get the real threat rolling.
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:16 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Careless Saiyajin wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Maybe some people just want DEEBEEZEEEEEE! UGGGGGGGGGGGH CEREAL BUSINESS! SOMEONE DIE DAMMIT!
What do you mean by that? I actually after a second read almost understand your nonsense lol.
When you use the term "DEEBEEZEE", you mock people who treat the whole show as serious business when it's not (Most commonly dubbies). Using the word Cereal is referencing South Park's Al Gore and you'd have to see him to truly get that. Someone die is poking at the people who say there's hardly no threat anymore like in Battle of Gods as no one died and no one's life seemed threatened, when they were. So to them the true DBZ expereince is everything always being serious, fuck any sense of gags or humour, and people need to be in pain or dying to get the real threat rolling.
Yeah I got it the second read around but I agree with you as you've probably read that the original dragon ball and humor is a big component and that people have only been exposed to z as you are pointing out have a more narrow scope and perspective. (Although there is some z humor) But you get the point.

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Post by Kakacarrottop » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:19 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:When you use the term "DEEBEEZEE", you mock people who treat the whole show as serious business when it's not
But an animated TV show's fanbase clearly has to be home to the intellectual elite, not regular everyday joes :roll:
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:20 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:Where does all this hate for the Pilaf Gang come from?
They have tons of screen time despite not being funny.
If Freeza is being brought back, it needs to have the same hard-hitting stuff as his original arc did. I have no interest in seeing that drama destroyed by a necessity to add humour to everything.
I have no problem with the general idea of comic relief in this movie. Freeza is a very silly man, with a very silly name, and is the main antagonist of a very silly arc.
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