What if Kid Buu had won the final battle (consequences?)

[Kamiccolo9]

I always thought part of it was that there was still the danger that Gohan might get absorbed again. Then what would happen?

You guys do realize that the last 2 Potara Earrings in existance (worn by the Supreme Kai/Kibito fusion) were destroyed by Goku and Vegeta in Episode 278? Goku and Vegeta crush them in front of the Old Kaioshin and Supreme Kai when they receive them. There's no way Vegetto could ever exist again at this point.

(And Gogeta could never happen. Goku and Vegeta aren't even similar in size. And, even then, they'd need hours of practice just to get it right.)

There's still another set. The ones that Kaioshin and Kibito took off before they fused.

[Rocketman]

(And Gogeta could never happen. Goku and Vegeta aren't even similar in size. And, even then, they'd need hours of practice just to get it right.)

Goku outright says he could do the dance with Vegeta. And Vegeta says he knows the dance.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

But he also says you need to be of similar size and strength to do it. So is that part just wrong?

[Lord Beerus]

(And Gogeta could never happen. Goku and Vegeta aren't even similar in size. And, even then, they'd need hours of practice just to get it right.)

Goku outright says he could do the dance with Vegeta. And Vegeta says he knows the dance.

How the hell does Vegeta know the Fusion Dance?

[Rocketman]

But he also says you need to be of similar size and strength to do it. So is that part just wrong?

Or Goku and Vegeta are similar enough in height?

[Lord Beerus]

Vegetto beat Gohan-Buu so badly his regeneration was failing.

That sums up the backwards ass, inconsistent, fucked up logic of the Majin Boo arc.

How? Pure Boo does the same thing to Fat Boo, abd Gotenks nearly manages the same with Evil Boo.

It seems to be pretty damn consistent: you can still overpower the Boos, even with pure melee.

But Evil Boo could still regenerate even when he was reduced to smoke. Fat Boo was also able to regenerate even when was close to having no ki left.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

But he also says you need to be of similar size and strength to do it. So is that part just wrong?

Or Goku and Vegeta are similar enough in height?

Trunks and Goten are similar in height.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

Something that should be brought up ;
Goku states that if it weren't for Satan and Mr. Boo, everyone on earth would have been done in. Doesn't that include Gohan?

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Couldn't Kid Boo just blow up the planet?

[singsing]

I always thought part of it was that there was still the danger that Gohan might get absorbed again. Then what would happen?

You guys do realize that the last 2 Potara Earrings in existance (worn by the Supreme Kai/Kibito fusion) were destroyed by Goku and Vegeta in Episode 278? Goku and Vegeta crush them in front of the Old Kaioshin and Supreme Kai when they receive them. There's no way Vegetto could ever exist again at this point.

(And Gogeta could never happen. Goku and Vegeta aren't even similar in size. And, even then, they'd need hours of practice just to get it right.)

Three earrings. Kibito, Kaioshin, and Old Kaioshin. Two were crushed. One remains. And who says they can't clothes beam more of them anyways?

Gogeta is a plot point and definitely could happen.

[foxfang4]

Couldn't Kid Boo just blow up the planet?

In the first episode of the Goku vs. Kid Buu fight, it looks as though Kid Buu tries to blow up the planet after 1-2 rounds with Goku. You see a huge pink beam get sent into the Kaioshin's planet's core. But, the planet is shown to withstand the hit, but it's physical features change. Now, a lot of that episode was filler, so I'm not sure if Kid Buu attempted that in the main manga.

But, if it was filler, it was a nice touch by TOEI to really establish Buu's "suicidal" tendencies.

The Fusion Dance
As for Goku/Vegeta fusing with the fusion dance. I remember in the manga them talking about it while inside Buu's body. Vegeta basically says that he's aware of the dance, but refuses to do it on principal. Still, I just chalk this up as another example of Goku not knowing what he's talking about. The fusion dance would be impossible between them. Only in Movie 12 do we get that "what if" scenario.

[foxfang4]

Three earrings. Kibito, Kaioshin, and Old Kaioshin. Two were crushed. One remains. And who says they can't clothes beam more of them anyways?

Gogeta is a plot point and definitely could happen.

Kibito and Kaioshin had a pair each. When they fused, only 1 pair remained. They gave that pair to Goku and Vegeta. But, they immediately destroyed the earrings. If you watch the entirety of the Kid Buu battle, Old Kaioshin and Kaioshin don't have the earrings anymore. There's not 1 shot with them wearing them.

Note: In Battle of Gods, they're seen wearing them again. But, at this point I'm sure they would have found a way to re-create the earrings. It probably took them awhile to do so. Or else, they would have just created new ones on the spot for them. The manga specifically points out that there are no more earrings left.

[Marco Polo]

Interviewer: Can anybody perform Fusion if their body size and power are the same?

Akira Toriyama: It’s hard, but they can!
I think it’s possible to merge no matter the conditions, as long as it all goes well. I even think it’s possible for a larger number of people. However, since it’s quite hard for both parties to strike that delicate balance, it’s very difficult for two extremely different people to fuse. In that sense, synchronized swimmers would probably be really good at Fusion. By the way, there are many different types of Fusion, and the kind Goku learned is the one for increasing battle power.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... uu-arc-04/

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Couldn't Kid Boo just blow up the planet?

In the first episode of the Goku vs. Kid Buu fight, it looks as though Kid Buu tries to blow up the planet after 1-2 rounds with Goku. You see a huge pink beam get sent into the Kaioshin's planet's core. But, the planet is shown to withstand the hit, but it's physical features change. Now, a lot of that episode was filler, so I'm not sure if Kid Buu attempted that in the main manga.

Yeah, that was filler. However, the old Kaioshin does say their world is pretty tough, so I'd assume it would be hard to destroy.

What I was referring to was Kid Boo teleporting to earth and blowing it up once the fight was over.

[foxfang4]

Interviewer: Can anybody perform Fusion if their body size and power are the same?

Akira Toriyama: It’s hard, but they can!
I think it’s possible to merge no matter the conditions, as long as it all goes well. I even think it’s possible for a larger number of people. However, since it’s quite hard for both parties to strike that delicate balance, it’s very difficult for two extremely different people to fuse. In that sense, synchronized swimmers would probably be really good at Fusion. By the way, there are many different types of Fusion, and the kind Goku learned is the one for increasing battle power.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... uu-arc-04/

Basically, Toriyama is directly contradicting the manga there.

But this line here: "it’s very difficult for two extremely different people to fuse", says it all. The issue was "Could Goku and Vegeta do a fusion dance right away?". Based on what Toriyama says, it would take them maybe days/weeks to get it right (if they even could).

Still, I'll stick with Goku's explanation given to him by the Metamorans, and not what Toriyama decides to say to humor interviewers years later.

[Marco Polo]

Basically, Toriyama is directly contradicting the manga there.

But this line here: "it’s very difficult for two extremely different people to fuse", says it all. The issue was "Could Goku and Vegeta do a fusion dance right away?". Based on what Toriyama says, it would take them maybe days/weeks to get it right (if they even could).

Still, I'll stick with Goku's explanation given to him by the Metamorans, and not what Toriyama decides to say to humor interviewers years later.

I don't think he's contradicting the manga. What does the manga says? That people of different heights can't fuse? But it doesn't explain us why.

Toriyama, here, explains to us that it's because it's difficult for people of different heights to synchronize their movements perfectly for the dance.

[foxfang4]

Basically, Toriyama is directly contradicting the manga there.

But this line here: "it’s very difficult for two extremely different people to fuse", says it all. The issue was "Could Goku and Vegeta do a fusion dance right away?". Based on what Toriyama says, it would take them maybe days/weeks to get it right (if they even could).

Still, I'll stick with Goku's explanation given to him by the Metamorans, and not what Toriyama decides to say to humor interviewers years later.

I don't think he's contradicting the manga. What does the manga says? That people of different heights can't fuse? But it doesn't explain us why.

Toriyama, here, explains to us that it's because it's difficult for people of different heights to synchronize their movements perfectly for the dance.

Yeah, that's right. The manga explains that you have to have nearly identical bodies to do the Fusion Dance.

[dbzfan7]

If before the earth and everyone is restored, the nameks are contacted in the afterlife to restore everything on earth. Once done they wish Gohan to fight Boo and he demolishes him. Gotenks can be substituted as another contender. If the Genki Dama failed, then just have Gohan bring Boo to him by raising his power, then annihilate him. Gotenks still works as a good substitute.

[mAcChaos]

Basically, Toriyama is directly contradicting the manga there.

But this line here: "it’s very difficult for two extremely different people to fuse", says it all. The issue was "Could Goku and Vegeta do a fusion dance right away?". Based on what Toriyama says, it would take them maybe days/weeks to get it right (if they even could).

Still, I'll stick with Goku's explanation given to him by the Metamorans, and not what Toriyama decides to say to humor interviewers years later.

I don't think he's contradicting the manga. What does the manga says? That people of different heights can't fuse? But it doesn't explain us why.

Toriyama, here, explains to us that it's because it's difficult for people of different heights to synchronize their movements perfectly for the dance.

Yeah, that's right. The manga explains that you have to have nearly identical bodies to do the Fusion Dance.

They probably meant "can't fuse in the short time we have to fight Buu."

Even if Goku and Vegeta had the dance down, would they be able to perfectly sync their energy during the Kid Buu fight? It took Goten and Trunks quite a while to learn that.

[Aoi]

I'm pretty sure the Potaras the Saiyans crushed right before Kid Buu arrives were the last ones ever. And I like the idea that Buu would just leave when seeing Gohan, or just make their current location explode. This scenario was probably unintentional by Akira Toriyama, but it really leaves Goku and Vegeta (the only 2 beings Kid Buu had any interest in fighting) as the only ones who might have a chance of defeating him.

(Gohan arrives to Kaioshin Planet)
Gohan: Alright...let's do thi...
(Buu teleports away the second he sees Gohan...)


Hilarious. But all in all a cool twist on the usual saga endings that we've seen before in DB/Z.