Why is there such a demand for an "Evil" Goku?

[GogesusSSG]

I think what people want isn't another character to play role of an evil Goku(as others have pointed out this has been done before), but they want Goku himself to become evil/possessed. In this scenario, Goku can't save everyone so it'd down to one of the others to be the hero.

[DBZAOTA482]

I think what people want isn't another character to play role of an evil Goku(as others have pointed out this has been done before), but they want Goku himself to become evil/possessed. In this scenario, Goku can't save everyone so it'd down to one of the others to be the hero.

His family can be the heroes.

Isn't the entire Saiyan race basically just a load of evil Gokus?

No.

[Chuquita]

I'd watch a turned evil or au evil (comedic or serious) Gokû arc. If written well, it could be good.

[Deathbringer]

Isn't the entire Saiyan race basically just a load of evil Gokus?

No.

> Goku was designed first
> The design of most Saiyans is based off Goku's design (wild black hair, tails)
> the Saiyans were battle-thirsty and took orders from a tyrant
> Saiyans are evil Gokus

What I said was true, from a certain point of view (okay literally only from a design perspective, also I'm not actually being very serious but the rest of my post was genuine)

[DBZAOTA482]

Isn't the entire Saiyan race basically just a load of evil Gokus?

No.

> Goku was designed first
> The design of most Saiyans is based off Goku's design (wild black hair, tails)
> the Saiyans were battle-thirsty and took orders from a tyrant
> Saiyans are evil Gokus

What I said was true, from a certain point of view (okay literally only from a design perspective, also I'm not actually being very serious but the rest of my post was genuine)

I guess, but I don't think 'evil' is the right word for them. More like savaged (Vegeta was evil, though).

[baneofdemon22]

I thought we already got evil Goku. His name was Cell.

[Dyno]

Just because he has his genes doesn't make him an actual evil counter-part.

[FortuneSSJ]

People will always want what they don't have.
We already had a Evil Goku anyway. His name was Turles. Good Goku killed him.

[VegettoEX]

Let's all please make an effort to not use 4chan-post-styles and to actually read the posts that come before you in a conversation.

Thank you...!

[FoolsGil]

Every saga, the final villain is defeated by Goku. What if the final villain is Goku? And that's the appeal-who is going to save the world now?

[Kamiccolo9]

Every saga, the final villain is defeated by Goku. What if the final villain is Goku? And that's the appeal.

Jackie Chun? Tenshinhan? Vegeta? Cell?

[fadeddreams5]

Every saga, the final villain is defeated by Goku. What if the final villain is Goku? And that's the appeal.

Jackie Chun? Tenshinhan? Vegeta? Cell?

Jackie Chun wasn't a villain. Tenshinhan came to his senses in the middle of that fight, IIRC, so he was not a villain at the very end. Vegeta was a team effort, but Goku made the biggest contribution (weakening his base form, spirit bomb, and bringing Oozaru Gohan to his senses). And Gohan was going to let the planet blow up until Goku interfered and coached him throughout the fight; this was a two man effort. >.>

[TheGmGoken]

The thing is, we already got types of Evil Goku's. In fact, we've had several: Raditz,Vegeta,Tullece and Broly.

They are not evil versions of Goku. Maybe Tullece...but not the rest.

[Kamiccolo9]

Every saga, the final villain is defeated by Goku. What if the final villain is Goku? And that's the appeal.

Jackie Chun? Tenshinhan? Vegeta? Cell?

Jackie Chun wasn't a villain. Tenshinhan came to his senses in the middle of that fight, IIRC, so he was not a villain at the very end. Vegeta was a team effort, but Goku made the biggest contribution (weakening his base form, spirit bomb, and bringing Oozaru Gohan to his senses). And Gohan was going to let the planet blow up until Goku interfered and coached him throughout the fight; this was a two man effort. >.>

It doesn't really matter. None of them were beaten by Goku.

[ZazamPow]

There have been several anti-Gokus throughout the story. Most notably Freeza, in my opinion. Everything about his character is the exact polar opposite of Goku. Freeza is polite and sophisticated, royalty, but sadistic and pure evil. He rules a galactic empire and constantly seeks to further his own rule, without ever working a day in his life to achieve his power. Goku is a hick, uncultured, extremely rude and ignorant, but innocent. His heart is pure and he never fights to hurt. He lives in a shack in the mountains and is content with just eating and training all day, requiring nothing else. He lives to work hard and improve himself simply for the sake of being the best he can be. That image where Goku and Freeza are just glaring at each other with Goku bent over to match Freeza's height displays their polarity perfectly.

There's also Vegeta and Broly who are also anti-Gokus for many of the same reasons, and even Krillin and Tien were originally introduced as anti-Gokus.

By comparison, the only "evil Goku" we've had is Lettuce. And yes, "evil" version and "anti" version are different. Example; Joker is the anti-Batman, but Prometheus is clearly the evil Batman.

Anyway, the point is that I can understand why people want an evil Goku since Tullettuce wasn't the best character, or better yet, a story arc where Goku himself becomes evil. Think about it, Goku is the badass motherfucker who never gives up and can beat anybody if he really needs to. So how the hell do his own friends beat him when they need to? It doesn't need to be a nuanced morality story where Goku is struggling between good and evil, just have him hit his head and get amnesia again while simultaneously reawakening Kakarot and his mission. Then Goku will go through the story using all of the skills and abilities that we love about him to wreak havoc, I'd love to see him use a Spirit Bomb made of evil energy that turns red.

[macho_man]

Well, we actually already had an official 'Evil Goku' from Toyotaro's 'Dragon Ball Heroes - Victory Mission', in the special (and ultra-rare) chapter 'Ultimate Victory Book', in which debuts also 'Adult Gotenks'. Have a check here in this preview:

[The Monkey King]

Evil versions of characters can make for interesting interpretations and outlooks of them. I find the Kakarot from DB Multiverse to be quite an interesting character.

[Kakacarrottop]

we actually already had an official 'Evil Goku' from Toyotaro's 'Dragon Ball Heroes - Victory Mission'

Glorified fanfics don't count

[macho_man]

Dragon Ball Heroes - Victory Mission manga is an official manga spin-off, as stated by Kanzenshuu site:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/spin-offs/
You could argue about the usual canon/non canon thing, but as a matter of fact, this is the first real 'Evil Goku' we have from an official Dragon Ball source.

[The Monkey King]

A mindless evil clone of GT kid Goku is below trash.
The worst incarnation of Goku combined with the worst kind of Evil 'X'