Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Kamiccolo9]

Highlights include Freeza's power level being 1.37 million, I believe.

I suppose this solidifies the theory that I saw here a long time ago that after a certain point, the stronger a character is, the more condensed and numerically small the battle powers become. Pretty sure that was Herms.

Am I the only one who sees new possibilities for battle power discussion with this instead of the same, tired stuff we've been going over for 20 years now?

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

Marked for deletion.

[Kaboom]

Is it possible that "1.37 million" is a mistranslation?

[ArchedThunder]

We assume Freeza died again but we know that this guy is a trooper.

Spoiler:

Plus we need confirmation on Sorbet's "all according to plan" line and the post credits scene.

If that line is in the movie I imagine it is the post credits scene.

[Doctor.]

We assume Freeza died again but we know that this guy is a trooper.

Spoiler:

Plus we need confirmation on Sorbet's "all according to plan" line and the post credits scene.

One of the spoilers says Freeza re-appeared in Hell.

Of course until Julian confirms this, this is just a rumour, but everyone is discussing rumours right now.

[dbzfan7]

Toriyama has already been on recorded saying that SSJ2 and SSJ3 are practically pointless and that Goku likely won't use them anymore. Why are people getting so upset about it?

SSJ= 50x base
SSJ2 =100x base
SSJ3= 400x base.

If Goku can stack these other forms on top of SSJ God like SSJ with the same boost. Then Goku could have one shotted Freeza. If we're told that SSJ2/3 no longer have the effect of stacking or that blue SSJ is the only achievable form. I'll be fine.

That's pretty much what Toriyama is saying.

It was never said like that. That's only a theory. He said they're powered up forms of SSJ, not that they no longer power Goku up at all.

[danielsan_190196]

I'LL QUOTE IT AGAIN

How was the Sumitomo score for this movie?

[Kamiccolo9]

Is it possible that "1.37 million" is a mistranslation?

Possibly, but I really hope it's not. I don't see how forcing power level fans to have to think radically differently is a bad thing.

[sintzu]

I'LL QUOTE IT AGAIN

How was the Sumitomo score for this movie?

I don't think anyone said anything about it.

[dbzfan7]

Is it possible that "1.37 million" is a mistranslation?

I hope it is...I really do.

If it is true, I really hope it's just his 1st form. If that's what he says his Golden form or new full power is....then wow...just wow. Logic is dead.

[Birusu16]

It was never said like that. That's only a theory. He said they're powered up forms of SSJ, not that they no longer power Goku up at all.

Goku endlessly keeps getting stronger, with Super Saiyan 3 in the manga and Super Saiyan 4 in the anime; does Super Saiyan keep getting limitlessly stronger too? Might we eventually see things such as a Super Saiyan 5…?!

Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.

That pretty much implies that his SSJ2 and SSJ3 forms won't do anything for him anymore. Besides, if they did then I'm pretty sure both Goku and Vegeta would've taken it a step further with their transformations.

[The Monkey King]

Is it possible that "1.37 million" is a mistranslation?

Possibly, but I really hope it's not. I don't see how forcing power level fans to have to think radically differently is a bad thing.

You can be as smug as you want acting as though you're 'above obsessing power levels'. But if the 1.37 million statement is accurate it simply contradicts the manga and is an error.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Highlights include Freeza's power level being 1.37 million, I believe.

I should probably add that, again, this is Google Translate. Don't get worked up until you get a proper summary.

Dear God ALG what have you started!

[ShaneisMC]

At this point id wager 1.37 trillion would have to be more accurate.

[dbzfan7]

It was never said like that. That's only a theory. He said they're powered up forms of SSJ, not that they no longer power Goku up at all.

Goku endlessly keeps getting stronger, with Super Saiyan 3 in the manga and Super Saiyan 4 in the anime; does Super Saiyan keep getting limitlessly stronger too? Might we eventually see things such as a Super Saiyan 5…?!

Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.

That pretty much implies that his SSJ2 and SSJ3 forms won't do anything for him anymore. Besides, if they did then I'm pretty sure both Goku and Vegeta would've taken it a step further with their transformations.

Unless that's supposed to mean, SSJ is now a 400x boost or more now, then no it makes no sense. There's nothing that says how he can make SSJ raise his multiplier higher than the other forms, and sap less strength.

At this point id wager 1.37 trillion would have to be more accurate.

Nako's number makes more sense

[Kamiccolo9]

Is it possible that "1.37 million" is a mistranslation?

Possibly, but I really hope it's not. I don't see how forcing power level fans to have to think radically differently is a bad thing.

You can be as smug as you want acting as though you're 'above obsessing power levels'. But if the 1.37 million statement is accurate it simply contradicts the manga and is an error.

I'm not being smug. If you had read my post above that one, I think that's the best thing that could have happened for power level discussion. Instead of the same exact stuff we've been going on about for almost two decades now, we find that all the systems and fan-made logic that we've come to accept as fact has been totally upended? That's waaaaay more exciting for me than "Freeza is at 5 quintillion," or something "safe" like that.

[sintzu]

There's nothing that says how he can make SSJ raise his multiplier higher than the other forms, and sap less strength.

Was it ever said in the manga that the forms are multipliers ?

[Bullza]

Looks like people are really prone to jumping the gun here, why not just wait to see what it actually means?

[ShaneisMC]

It was never said like that. That's only a theory. He said they're powered up forms of SSJ, not that they no longer power Goku up at all.

Goku endlessly keeps getting stronger, with Super Saiyan 3 in the manga and Super Saiyan 4 in the anime; does Super Saiyan keep getting limitlessly stronger too? Might we eventually see things such as a Super Saiyan 5…?!

Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.

That pretty much implies that his SSJ2 and SSJ3 forms won't do anything for him anymore. Besides, if they did then I'm pretty sure both Goku and Vegeta would've taken it a step further with their transformations.

Unless that's supposed to mean, SSJ is now a 400x boost or more now, then no it makes no sense. There's nothing that says how he can make SSJ raise his multiplier higher than the other forms, and sap less strength.

At this point id wager 1.37 trillion would have to be more accurate.

Nako's number makes more sense

I was just making a generalization guess honestly. Whats Nako's take on it?

[sailorspazz]

Gフリーザの戦闘力は130万

This guy said 1.3 million, so it all depends on if random people on the Internet are accurate or not (though if multiple people posted it, as seems to be the case, it's probably true).

Dear god, I'm posting about battle powers, the thing I care least about regarding this movie? Definitely didn't get enough sleep