batistabus wrote:I see. Is there a reliable place where I can read up on this information? I was mostly going off of what I had read/heard a few years back, so I'm not surprised I got details wrong.
I had considered that Towa's "relation" to Dabra was not by blood (wouldn't all shinjin be kin if they were picked from the same tree?), and I had not thought about Demigra's form in that way. Still, it seems that Towa is meant to be a true shinjin from the Makai, even if she is not a makaio(shin).
Well, if Towa was a Shinjin, she wouldn't just be Dabra's sister (and Dabra would be a Shinjin and related to Kaioshin, Kibito, etc). She would be related to every other Shinjin as well, including the Time Kaioshin. Only Dabra's relation get's mentioned though, so I think it's a safe bet that she's just a demon. I was really wanting some Makaio(shin) material out of Xenoverse, but it just doesn't seem like it was meant to be and is probably an abandoned tidbit like Herms mentioned earlier in the thread (and in the quote below). So I'm really not expecting anything to come of it in future movies either. :/
There is a
tidbit about it on the main site's Full Color Toriyama interview pages (along with some other stuff on Makai, Babidi and Buu), but I think this quote from Herms covers it better:
Herms wrote:There's a section near the front of the book that gives an overview of the various races and cultures throughout the series; it's an expanded version of the equivalent section in Daizenshuu 7. Part of the newly added stuff is a section detailing the whole Shinjin/"Core People" back story for the Kaios/Kaioshins that Toriyama explained back in the SEG. It includes the bit about evil Core People going to the Demon World. Notably, Toriyama's original explanation said these evil Core People go to the Makaio(s), which left it unclear whether the Makaio(s) and Makaioshin(s) were recruited from among these evil Core People that came to the Demon World, or if they were beings with some other origin and the evil Core People simply teamed up with them. So now the Chouzenshuu 4 version of the explanation just says evil Core People go to the Demon World, with no mention of Makaio/Makaioshin(s) at all. In fact, I don't think there's any mention of Makaio or Makaioshin in Chouzenshuu 4 at all, and it's tempting to think that they've been erased from the picture now that BoG has established that the Kaios and Kaioshins are Gods of Creations whose counterparts are the Gods of Destruction. Not that you couldn't also fit Makaios and Makaioshins into this scenario too (they'd just be evil Gods of Creation), but Beerus really has stolen their thunder.
Anyway, then at the tail end of that whole section, there's an overview of the various races of the afterlife. There's short section on the Enma Realm, with Enma Daio and his oni staff, then one on the Kaio Realm which gives another, shorter recap of the whole Core People concept. Then there's a section on the Demon World (despite the book noting a few times that the Demon World is not technically part of either the afterlife or living world), which says that the Demon World is home to an "evil race", but since the realm is outside the domain of the Kaios and Kaioshins, even they don't know what's down there, so the full facts about this race are shrouded in mystery. And it explains about Dabra being the strongest in the Demon Realm, its king, how he turns stuff to stone, gets brainwashed by Babidi, eaten by Boo, and sent to Heaven because he'd enjoy Hell too much. Basically, there's a section on the Core People/Kaios/Kaioshins, then a separate section on the Demon World race that goes over Dabra without mentioning any connection to the Core People or the Makaio/Makaioshin...and in fact, the Makaio/Makaioshin don't seem to get any mention at all.
In a nutshell, it's not 100% conclusive (especially since it goes out of its way to say how mysterious the Demon World race is), but they had their chance to connect Dabra up with the concept of the Makaio and Makaioshin, but didn't draw any links there. Heck, they didn't mention the Makaio/Makaioshin at all, even when going over the god hierarchy and the Core People. If this "Demigra" stuff in Xenoverse ends up having no connection either, then it might be safe to say the whole concept has effectively been abandoned.
