"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:53 pm

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Dyno wrote:And it got updated. Can someone say if they also updated the name or they kept "Saiyan beyond God"?
That name's not a thing.
It is a thing, just for the god power absorption into base and not SSGSS.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by Rukura » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:57 pm

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Rukura wrote:
Dyno wrote:And it got updated. Can someone say if they also updated the name or they kept "Saiyan beyond God"?
That name's not a thing.
It is a thing, just for the god power absorption into base and not SSGSS.
Huh, fair enough, hadn't seen that yet. Though I believe he meant the Super Saiyan form (especially from his reply).
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:03 pm

He did. I've been trying to tell him the names would be separate since God Mission 1 went live and Goku's new "Saiyan surpassing God" form was revealed to be the first of the Goku card's dual transformation mechanic, but he kept insisting they would be the same thing and the forms would just be swapped out after the 18th. Doesn't really matter now though.
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Post by Dyno » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:13 pm

That's because all indicate to this, heck, they are indeed/even marketing the same card which once transformed Kakarot into a "Saiyan beyond God" as "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan".

But whatever, at the end of day, if you turn out to be correct, I will give you a proper apologize.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:22 pm

I don't see anything implying that. That's not how the dual mechanic and marketing works. You don't spoil the secret in advance by plastering the the new hype's name on the product. The card has the mechanic allowing for multiple transformations and the second of which was meant to be a secret. So the card allows Goku to transform into the "Saiyan surpassing God" form and after the 18th, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan will be unlocked even though it remains unadvertised on the card itself beyond the ? in the transformation box. This is exactly how Super Saiyan God was handled with Heroes back when Battle of Gods was being promoted.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:32 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I don't see anything implying that. That's not how the dual mechanic and marketing works. You don't spoil the secret in advance by plastering the the new hype's name on the product. The card has the mechanic allowing for multiple transformations and the second of which was meant to be a secret. So the card allows Goku to transform into the "Saiyan surpassing God" form and after the 18th, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan will be unlocked even though it remains unadvertised on the card itself beyond the ? in the transformation box. This is exactly how Super Saiyan God was handled with Heroes back when Battle of Gods was being promoted.

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This GM7 card allowed Goku to transform into Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 3, but unadvertised on the card is the fact that it contained a third, secret transformation allowing Goku to reach Super Saiyan God.
lol Also showcases SSJ3 Goku using Spirit Bomb in the artwork. I just find it funny how in earlier Dimps games when you're SSJ or higher you use Dragon Fist instead of Spirit Bomb. Ah good times...

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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by Rukura » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:42 pm

Dyno wrote:That's because all indicate to this, heck, they are indeed/even marketing the same card which once transformed Kakarot into a "Saiyan beyond God" as "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan".

But whatever, at the end of day, if you turn out to be correct, I will give you a proper apologize.
I didn't say what I said to be right and/or for you to be wrong. I said it to clear things up, since a lot of confusion seems to be coming from all kinds of made-up names that are floating around.

EDIT: Checked the link you posted. To further clarify, the term being used there is "strength beyond a god" which is refering to neither form. Then Goku says in the video that the blue form is "a form beyond Super Saiyan God", which actually helps the Super Saiyan God SS term explanation since we'd otherwise have "Saiyan beyond a god" and "Saiyan beyond a Super Saiyan God".

EDIT2: Going back and forth between saying "Saiyan beyond god" and "Saiyan beyond a god" (both without a capital G in god) because the word used there is Kami (神) and not the "God" (ゴッド) used in Super Saiyan God, making it an even more ambiguous term separate from both the Super Saiyan God and SSGSS terms.
Starting to get annoyed at how they're not really clarifying anything.
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Post by gokugambitoptimus » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:10 pm

Vegeta´s new card

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:23 pm

Looks like he's giving Gokû a pat on the back. X3
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:58 pm

Chuquita wrote:Looks like he's giving Gokû a pat on the back. X3
I swear if I don't know any better, you're shipping GokuXVegeta :lol:
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:35 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Looks like he's giving Gokû a pat on the back. X3
I swear if I don't know any better, you're shipping GokuXVegeta :lol:
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:56 am

It's pretty obvious what Goku and Vegeta's relationship is.

Anyway, I'm not too excited about our new cyan form coming to Heroes for the form itself, but I am curious if they'll be going with SSGSS as well.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:48 am

What do you guys think the chances are of GDM1 coming to Ultimate Mission 2? I really want those SSGSS cards on my team :(

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:59 pm

There coooould be some special downloads to fight against them I suppose, but you'll have to wait for UM3 for them to be playable.
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Post by DNA » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:38 pm

So anyway, are there actually new cards (in promos maybe) to reflect all this new stuff yet? There's still a few blanks on my charts and I haven't even bothered with these new transformations yet.

So far this is what I know is new and missing:
- Abo
- Cado
- Aka
- Miira
- Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku (is this a real title? oO)
- Gold Freeza
- Super Liang; San and Si Xing Longs

Not to mention those who never came in card form. Anyone else I'm missing?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:53 pm

Not really, though you also forgot "Saiyan who has surpassed god" Goku and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta.

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku is technically already released as part of the Resurrection F set in God Mission 1. His card has the mechanic for multiple transformations and the form will be unlocked on the card starting on the 18th. Though we don't have a card with art specifically for that form yet. On the other hand, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta will be getting a promo in this month's V-Jump with art of the form.

Wonder if Vegeta will also eventually get the middle Super Saiyan God and "Sayan who has surpassed god" forms? Hmm...

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Post by DNA » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:10 pm

I'm kinda having a hard time swallowing the "Saiyan who has surpassed God" form, since from what I gathered, it's just normal ass Goku in terms of looks. At least Ultimate Gohan has some visual differences.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:28 pm

Yeah it's just normal Goku in terms of appearance, but it's still technically still a form identified within the game the same as an "Unlock Potential" has been for characters like Gohan and Kuririn in the Budokai games. Not saying they couldn't have just made it base Goku with higher stats, but "meh"...
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Post by songohan619 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:28 am

Is there a list of all the cards for all the characters somewhere?
I`m looking for all the cards for Uub and Jaco :P
And, if it`s possible, their card numbers as well :P As I cant find them by name on Ebay..
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:45 am

Here are some Uub cards I've collected in UM2

Hg2-22
Hg5-50

I'm sure there are many, many more though.

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