Considering I had to put up with Faulconer's work during the entire DBZ run on Toonami, I have absolutely no desire to ever watch that dub again. Especially if we're getting a revised dub with the original score...MajinVejitaXV wrote: Good riddance ;p
I wholeheartedly agree.Vegetasan wrote: The problem with the dub isnt the music - it's the WRITING.
Well, at least he didn't want to caress them...Vegetasan wrote:And when you compare it to, say, Gohan's line from the Freeza saga: "Yeah, Namek! Where balls are born!!" (or something along those lines), it's incredible just how bad some of the writing was.
Actually, I wondered is it possible if FUNi would release the series in both formats? I mean, both widescreen and fullscreen for the entire series? What I mean, is that the Vegeta Saga would be released in both formats, and you could buy both if you wanted. But yeah, could they do that?One thing that WOULD bother me is if they were to keep it widescreen for the first season set, and then change it back to fullscreen for the later sets in order to appease the fans. The problem I'd have with that is that it would be inconsistent. You'd have the entire Saiyan Saga presented in widescreen, and then the rest of the series released in fullscreen... Which would really, really irritate me.
If you want to release the series in widescreen, fine. If you want to release the series in fullscreen, fine. But whatever you do, don't do both. As long as you stay consistent with the route you have chosen, you'll hear no complaints from me.
And in fact, one of the things Funi advertised in their trailer is that the DVD sets will be presented "consistently", so I hope they live up to that claim.
I'm sure they COULD do that, but I highly doubt that they WOULD do that. I for one certainly wouldn't object to the idea. For me it's just an issue of consistency. I want each and every one of my sets to be either entirely fullscreen or entirely widescreen. If this Vegeta Saga set is released in widescreen as planned, then my hope would be that they do the same for the rest of the DVD sets still to come.Eclipse wrote:Actually, I wondered is it possible if FUNi would release the series in both formats? I mean, both widescreen and fullscreen for the entire series? What I mean, is that the Vegeta Saga would be released in both formats, and you could buy both if you wanted. But yeah, could they do that?
Even if it looks like refried dogshit? I understand being frustrated with FUNi's constant "Uncut releases! No, wait, ULTIMATE Uncut releases! No, wait, ULTIMATE WIDESCREEN SAGA SETS!" track record, but if the widescreen thing looks ridiculous (and a lot of people, I know factually, are lobbying FUNi to re-telecine whatever they've done so far as a 4:3 aspect ratio), I'd rather they own up to it being a dumb idea and do it right in a fullscreen format.Vegetasan wrote:If this Vegeta Saga set is released in widescreen as planned, then my hope would be that they do the same for the rest of the DVD sets still to come.
The widescreen format, while mildly annoying to some, doesn't faze me simply because I'm not missing much of the picture. I mean, it's only taking away a small percentage of the screen, judging from what limited footage I've seen thus far. And that's okay with me. What would really upset me is if they just slapped two black bars on the image and claimed it was widescreen.. But that's not what they are doing. They are sacrificing the top and bottom of the picture in favor of showcasing more of the sides of the image.. Which may not be its intended way of being broadcast, nevertheless that's simply not a sufficient enough reason for me to boycott the product.MajinVejitaXV wrote:Even if it looks like refried dogshit? I understand being frustrated with FUNi's constant "Uncut releases! No, wait, ULTIMATE Uncut releases! No, wait, ULTIMATE WIDESCREEN SAGA SETS!" track record, but if the widescreen thing looks ridiculous (and a lot of people, I know factually, are lobbying FUNi to re-telecine whatever they've done so far as a 4:3 aspect ratio), I'd rather they own up to it being a dumb idea and do it right in a fullscreen format.
-Corey
This would be the advantage of prefering the manga.BrollysKin wrote:I still cannot get over this fucking mess. Why can't Funimation just do it right.
First we got crappy footage, crapy releases, no consistent DVD release patern. Now we have this widescreen garbage. Fuck you Funimation.
You heard it here first. I am no longer a dubbie.
I don't think thats what people are bothered about. Its probley just the fact that we KNOW there is more image to see and your not able to see it. If we all know there is more image to see thats not being shown, then thats what we'll be thinking about while watching these episodes. Just thinking that while watching it is going to take away from the story cause your attention is on what was cut.I'm perfectly okay with not being able to see an insignificant strand of Goku's hair if it means I get a nice, professional looking image.
From a production aspect, it's a stupid idea. Widescreen has nothing to do with the 'slickness' of a given image, it has to do with the way a shot was originally framed by the director/animators and how it was produced. No matter how much they bring back from beyond the NTSC action-safe area, they're still sacrificing that which the animators wanted you to see for that which they knew wouldn't be in the shot.Vegetasan wrote:I believe Dragonball Z CAN be enjoyed just as much in widescreen as it is in fullscreen, and that's really all that matters to me. I'm perfectly okay with not being able to see an insignificant strand of Goku's hair if it means I get a nice, professional looking image. And that's what widescreen can provide: a very, very slick image. Having said that, I would be equally content with fullscreen. Like I said, it doesn't matter to me at this point. I'm just hoping they'll be consistent with whatever route they choose.
Go us!Rocketman wrote:This would be the advantage of prefering the manga.BrollysKin wrote:I still cannot get over this fucking mess. Why can't Funimation just do it right.
First we got crappy footage, crapy releases, no consistent DVD release patern. Now we have this widescreen garbage. Fuck you Funimation.
You heard it here first. I am no longer a dubbie.
So I am content with widescreen because I am ignorant? I think I've made it very clear that I understand what is being done here. And from the images I have seen, it's mostly unimportant things being cropped out, such as character's hair for instance, or the peak of a mountain off in the distance, etc.. Will there be much more harmful consequences in certain scenes that I cannot foresee? Perhaps. But I think it's a bit of a stretch, at least at this early stage, to suggest that widescreen will ruin the show.MajinVejitaXV wrote:I'm just surprised at the people going, "Oh, it doesn't make that big a difference! It's just widescreen!" I'd like to pay to have them all take a film class, or perhaps even see the stages of production when it comes to animation. Maybe then they'd get the point.
-Corey
Not to be offensive, but you are ignorant. It's not an insult, it's just my opinion. Ignorance is correctable, stupidity is not. I don't think you're stupid.Vegetasan wrote:So I am content with widescreen because I am ignorant? I think I've made it very clear that I understand what is being done here. And from the images I have seen, it's mostly unimportant things being cropped out, such as character's hair for instance, or the peak of a mountain off in the distance, etc.. Will there be much more harmful consequences in certain scenes that I cannot foresee? Perhaps. But I think it's a bit of a stretch, at least at this early stage, to suggest that widescreen will ruin the show.
Ding ding dingMr.Piccolo wrote:I think the whole point is getting your money's worth, Vegetasan. If you are going to spend your money, you would want the best (or close to it) that's out there. If that isn't an issue for you, you might as well buy some bootlegs.
-Rick
