Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:44 pm

Rocketman wrote:There's probably laws for the gods independent of power, much like Yemma can pass judgment on beings far stronger powerlevel-wise than he is. So the Kaioshin can't overpower Billy, but if he went rogue and killed a fellow god, he'd trip the failsafe and find himself in Tartarus rolling his liver up a hill for eternity.
That, or the other Gods will drop like flies like they did against Buu, or cry to Goku for help.
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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by funrush » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:46 pm

Maybe but Beerus is unpredictable. He has enough respect to not kill anyone, but he totally could do something obnoxious like what he did with the Z Sword.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:58 pm

That Kaioshin are practically powerless against Beerus. The Kaioshin are like Vince McMahon and Beerus is like Stone Cold Steve Austin. Beerus doesn't really give a shit about authority, he does whatever the hell he wants and how he wants, and everyone just kinda accepts it because it's fruitless trying to stop him.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by supercat » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:32 pm

If at anytime, Beerus feels the necessity to destroy the Kaioshin and their majestic realm, he would most likely proceed without thinking twice. Trapping Elder Kai in the sword clearly shows that the destructive feline has no respect for them.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Draconic » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:40 pm

supercat wrote:If at anytime, Beerus feels the necessity to destroy the Kaioshin and their majestic realm, he would most likely proceed without thinking twice. Trapping Elder Kai in the sword clearly shows that the destructive feline has no respect for them.
I don't think Beerus respects the Kaioshin as people, but he respects their position, so that's why he didn't blow up the planet.
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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by supercat » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:54 pm

Draconic wrote:
supercat wrote:If at anytime, Beerus feels the necessity to destroy the Kaioshin and their majestic realm, he would most likely proceed without thinking twice. Trapping Elder Kai in the sword clearly shows that the destructive feline has no respect for them.
I don't think Beerus respects the Kaioshin as people, but he respects their position, so that's why he didn't blow up the planet.
The point I was trying to make was that, if he ever felt the need to destroy them or their planet, he would have gone through with it. Beerus seems to be heavily driven by his personal desires and preferences. His high status coupled with his nearly unrivaled arrogance leads him to believe that he could do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Alex9196 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:24 am

Rocketman wrote:There's probably laws for the gods independent of power, much like Yemma can pass judgment on beings far stronger powerlevel-wise than he is. So the Kaioshin can't overpower Billy, but if he went rogue and killed a fellow god, he'd trip the failsafe and find himself in Tartarus rolling his liver up a hill for eternity.
thats not true. buu killed 4 kaioshin and nothing happened to him. yemma can just judge over beings like cell or freeza because they have no body. if they had their bodies he would be screwed.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by singsing » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:35 pm

Alex9196 wrote:
Rocketman wrote:There's probably laws for the gods independent of power, much like Yemma can pass judgment on beings far stronger powerlevel-wise than he is. So the Kaioshin can't overpower Billy, but if he went rogue and killed a fellow god, he'd trip the failsafe and find himself in Tartarus rolling his liver up a hill for eternity.
thats not true. buu killed 4 kaioshin and nothing happened to him. yemma can just judge over beings like cell or freeza because they have no body. if they had their bodies he would be screwed.
Buu isn't a god.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Alex9196 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:49 pm

yeah but if a god is not allowed to kill another how is a "not-god" allowed to?

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:48 pm

Alex9196 wrote:yeah but if a god is not allowed to kill another how is a "not-god" allowed to?
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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:42 pm

Alex9196 wrote:yeah but if a god is not allowed to kill another how is a "not-god" allowed to?
Kami couldn't kill himself to be rid of Piccolo, but Tien could.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Alex9196 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:47 pm

allthough he is refered to as kami he is not a god. he is "the guardian of earth". he is a namekian who splitt up his evil side and thats it.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:52 pm

Alex9196 wrote:allthough he is refered to as kami he is not a god. he is "the guardian of earth". he is a namekian who splitt up his evil side and thats it.
He's the God of Earth.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Alex9196 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:55 pm

he is the gurdian of earth. a guy who watches over the earth and tries to protect it. he is not a god.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:01 pm

Alex9196 wrote:he is the gurdian of earth. a guy who watches over the earth and tries to protect it. he is not a god.
"Guardian" is a dub thing. He's literally the God of Earth. Absolutely everything with anything to say about it says so.
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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by Alex9196 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:03 pm

oh i didnt know that, i guess i was wrong about that. however i still dont see him as a god.

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Re: Does the Supreme Kai have any authority over beerus?

Post by singsing » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:59 pm

Alex9196 wrote:oh i didnt know that, i guess i was wrong about that. however i still dont see him as a god.
Which is fine, but irrelevant in this specific discussion because he's literally officially a god in the Dragon Ball universe. So the example works perfectly. Gods appear to have rules among themselves, which mortals can not give a shit about if they want to/dare to.

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