The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Alex9196 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:47 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:Dbz/Gt villains vs movie villains ( their are some repeats.)

1. Raditz vs Garlic jr
2. Nappa vs Dr. wheelo
3. Tullece/ Lord Slug vs Ginyu squad
4. Abo and Kado (they can fuse) vs Freeza (namek saga)
5. Metal Cooler vs Android 17/18
6. Super Android 13 vs Android 16
7. Super Perfect Cell vs Hatchiyack
8. Mira vs Broly (movie 10)
9. Buuhan vs Janemba
10. Hirudegarn vs Baby Vegeta (before receiving the armor)
11. Super 17 vs Nova shenron
12. Demigra vs Golden Freeza
12. Beerus vs Omega Shenron

Who wins each battle?
Radditz
Dr. Wheelo
Ginyu Squad wins both
Freeza
C17 and C18 together would pulverize him, but one of them should also do it.
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I dont know enough about Mira or Xenoverse to answer this
Buuhan
I also cant answer the last 4, since I have never seen GT

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:16 pm

Blocky wrote:More Battles (equal power):
Nail vs First Form Freeza
Base Saiyan Sega Vegeta vs Pui Pui
Vegeta vs Guldo
Supreme Kai vs Mecha Freeza
Vegito vs Buuhan
Nail and Post-King Kai training Piccolo vs Bojack, Hatchiyack and Super Android 13
LSSJ Broly vs Garlic Jr. (without Immortality)
Sorbet & Tagoma vs Tullece's minions
Kid Goku (when he battled King Piccolo) vs Kid Vegeta.
- Nail
- Vegeta
- Guldo
- Kaioshin
- Vegetto
- Nail and Piccolo
- Tullece's minions
- Kid Goku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:19 pm

Blocky wrote:More Battles (equal power):
Nail vs First Form Freeza
Base Saiyan Sega Vegeta vs Pui Pui
Vegeta vs Guldo
Supreme Kai vs Mecha Freeza
Vegito vs Buuhan
Nail and Post-King Kai training Piccolo vs Bojack, Hatchiyack and Super Android 13
LSSJ Broly vs Garlic Jr. (without Immortality)
Sorbet & Tagoma vs Tullece's minions
Kid Goku (when he battled King Piccolo) vs Kid Vegeta.

-The outcome between their battle wouldn't change much even with a level playing field. I've said this before, but it's shocking to see how many people underestimate Frieza's prowess on the battlefield. With his unique physical make up, he's shown that he could acrobatically leverage his physique to his advantage and move in ways that most opponents would have a difficult time keeping up with. Furthermore, his nearly unrivaled durability is a major game changer that most, if not all, opponents would have an exceptionally challenging time trumping at equal power levels.

-In addition to the fact that he's probably a fodder in comparison to the vast majority of the other fighters in the strength department, he's also probably notoriously incompetent as far as skill is concerned. Even if his opponent wasn't Vegeta, the odds would be stacked against him.

-Without his time freezing abilities, and/or psychic powers, Guldo loses instantly. Vegeta's proficiency in hand to hand combat is probably in line with Piccolo and Frieza and is only second to Goku.

-Frieza makes Kaioshin eat his words.

-Could be close. Buuhan seemed like he had a pretty neat arsenal of tricks and strategies that he obtained from Gotenks' diverse array of attacks, and Piccolo's tactical ingenuity. That said, Vegetto is a fusion of two of the top fighters in the franchise, so I'd say he takes it after a long and dragged out battle.

-If the Namekian duo manages to shatter through Hatchiyack's unique defenses, they win this with moderate levels of difficulty. Neither Super Android 13 nor Bojack have ever displayed anything that elaborated on their abilities as fighters.

-Both fighters seem like two brutes who seem to merely muscle their way into victory. Personally not a fan of either of their styles, but I'd say Broly's relentless mentality gives him the edge here.

-We didn't even get to see Tagoma fight, but if I had to take a guess, he's probably on par with Jeice and Burter. Assuming Sorbet doesn't get the opportunity to ambush any of Turles's men with his ring, both he and Tagoma get destroyed.

-Vegeta had a stunningly high power level at a young age, so it's quite possible that he earned his reputation through sheer strength more so than someone like Goku, who had to actually work on refining his techniques.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:33 pm

All human members of the Red Ribbon Army (can use weapons, Battle Jacket and Tao Pai Pai) vs. Red's (Pkmn Adventures) Pokemon team (a Pikachu, a Poliwrath, a Venusaur, a Snorlax, an Espeon, and an Aerodactyl)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:11 pm

Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:36 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal
Cymbal takes this. Yamcha got his ass handed to him by Tien, who had a BP of 180, and Cymbal was able to land a few hits on Yajirobe who as equal to Goku at that stage.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:44 pm

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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal
Cymbal takes this. Yamcha got his ass handed to him by Tenshinhan, who had a BP of 180, and Cymbal was able to land a few hits on Yajirobe who as equal to Goku at that stage.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:36 pm

But at the same time, Cymbal is many times weaker than Tambourine who post-22nd TB Goku wrekt. So maybe Yajirobe wasn't that close to Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:55 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:But at the same time, Cymbal is many times weaker than Tambourine who post-22nd TB Goku wrekt. So maybe Yajirobe wasn't that close to Goku.
Wasn't Goku still recovering from the tournament and Tambourine almost killing him when he fought Yajirobe?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:26 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal
Cymbal wins in a close fight. Just going by power, their skill level is hard to measure in this junction.
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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:But at the same time, Cymbal is many times weaker than Tambourine who post-22nd TB Goku wrekt. So maybe Yajirobe wasn't that close to Goku.
Wasn't Goku still recovering from the tournament and Tambourine almost killing him when he fought Yajirobe?
No, they started fighting because Goku ate his fish, which recovered his forces spent on the tournament. Yajirobe dispatched Cymbal easily in the manga after getting serious. Goku is implied to be stronger than Yajirobe, who should be able to defeat anyone that participated in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, bar Tenshinhan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:29 pm

Sandubadear wrote:All human members of the Red Ribbon Army (can use weapons, Battle Jacket and Tao Pai Pai) vs. Red's (Pkmn Adventures) Pokemon team (a Pikachu, a Poliwrath, a Venusaur, a Snorlax, an Espeon, and an Aerodactyl)
I think it is too much for Red handle, Team Rocket canont be compared to what is the Red Ribbon Army, but he might get a chance if he uses Blaine's Mewtwo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:26 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal
Yamcha one shots him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal
Cymbal stomps. Daimao considered it unbelievable that an Earthling could defeat Cymbal, even though he should know the general power range of the Budokai fighters. Also, Cymbal was able to last a minute or so against Yajirobe, who could give Goku a half-decent fight. I think that "many times stronger" statement from Daimao meant that Tambourine was many times stronger than Cymbal, not that his battle power was many times greater. As shown by the enormous difference in destructive feats between young Daimao (most powerful attack destroys an entire city) and 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan (most powerful attack makes a big arena-sized hole), you don't actually need a battle power several times greater than someone's to be several times stronger than them.
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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal
Cymbal stomps. Daimao considered it unbelievable that an Earthling could defeat Cymbal, even though he should know the general power range of the Budokai fighters. Also, Cymbal was able to last a minute or so against Yajirobe, who could give Goku a half-decent fight. I think that "many times stronger" statement from Daimao meant that Tambourine was many times weaker than Cymbal, not that his battle power was many times lower. As shown by the enormous difference in destructive feats between young Daimao (most powerful attack destroys an entire city) and 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan (most powerful attack makes a big arena-sized hole), you don't actually need a battle power several times greater than someone's to be several times stronger than them.
Uh...wasn't Tambourine stronger than Cymbal, instead of the other way around?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Yamcha (22nd) vs. Cymbal
Cymbal stomps. Daimao considered it unbelievable that an Earthling could defeat Cymbal, even though he should know the general power range of the Budokai fighters. Also, Cymbal was able to last a minute or so against Yajirobe, who could give Goku a half-decent fight. I think that "many times stronger" statement from Daimao meant that Tambourine was many times weaker than Cymbal, not that his battle power was many times lower. As shown by the enormous difference in destructive feats between young Daimao (most powerful attack destroys an entire city) and 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan (most powerful attack makes a big arena-sized hole), you don't actually need a battle power several times greater than someone's to be several times stronger than them.
Uh...wasn't Tambourine stronger than Cymbal, instead of the other way around?
Yeah, that was a typo.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:40 am

Gohan Ssj (FnF) vs Super Buu

Beerus vs Golden Frieza + Vegeta SSJG SS + GokU SSJG SS

Frieza Final Form (FnF) vs Goku Base (BoG)

Piccolo (FnF) vs Kid Gohan FPMSsj (CG)

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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:46 am

h0kuten wrote:Gohan Ssj (FnF) vs Super Buu

Beerus vs Golden Freeza + Vegeta SSJG SS + GokU SSJG SS

Freeza Final Form (FnF) vs Goku Base (BoG)

Piccolo (FnF) vs Kid Gohan FPMSsj (CG)
1. Majin Buu one shots.
2. Catman finally gets his come-uppance after Freeza and Vegeta attack him in tandem giving Goku some time to charge a Warp Kamehameha.
3. Freeza one shots.
4. Gohan one-shots.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:49 am

h0kuten wrote:Gohan Ssj (FnF) vs Super Buu

Beerus vs Golden Freeza + Vegeta SSJG SS + GokU SSJG SS

Freeza Final Form (FnF) vs Goku Base (BoG)

Piccolo (FnF) vs Kid Gohan FPMSsj (CG)
- Super Boo crushes Gohan
- Beerus gets overwhelmed, and quite easily honestly.
- Freeza finger flicks
- Gohan stomps

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Post by Captain Space » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:13 am

h0kuten wrote:Gohan Ssj (FnF) vs Super Buu

Beerus vs Golden Freeza + Vegeta SSJG SS + GokU SSJG SS

Freeza Final Form (FnF) vs Goku Base (BoG)

Piccolo (FnF) vs Kid Gohan FPMSsj (CG)
Buu; Gohan here's quite possibly weaker than he was at the start of the Buu saga, though maybe equal to that or a bit stronger.

If just Goku and Vegeta together have a shot at beating Beerus (according to Whis), throw in Freeza and the team can win.

If we mean post-absorbing-god-powers, Goku isn't that much weaker than his SSJG self, so it's pretty close given how poorly this Freeza did against base RF Goku, but probably Freeza.

Gohan; if Piccolo is weaker than RF Gohan, no way he's up there with Gohan's strongest SSJ1 incarnation (strongest, that is, discounting some interpretations of GT).
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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:57 am

h0kuten wrote:Gohan Ssj (FnF) vs Super Buu

Beerus vs Golden Freeza + Vegeta SSJG SS + GokU SSJG SS

Freeza Final Form (FnF) vs Goku Base (BoG)

Piccolo (FnF) vs Kid Gohan FPMSsj (CG)
Super Buu is more than 10 times stronger than this Gohan. He murders him in seconds.
Beerus losses after a long fight.
I'm asumming Goku with god powers right? Goku finger flicks.
Piccolo gives Gohan a good fight but still losses.

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